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  1. An Urgency for the Lost?

    Any born again believer knows the horrors about the pit of eternal fires they were saved from, and the love of God who did the saving, and what it cost Him. It's not possible for us then, to not warn, (witness) as our savior tells us to do, our very loved ones, neighbors and even strangers of this eternal damnation, and still claim to know the truth. We're not of this world. Psa 126:5 They that sow in tears shall reap in joy. Psa 126:6 He that goeth forth and weepeth, bearing precious seed, shall doubtless come again with rejoicing, bringing his sheaves with him. Isa_6:8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.

    Your absolutely right, Reintin, as only a believer, would anybody be concerned. I personally just assumed the OP was referring to believers, those found in Christ. (But I've been wrong a few times before). I've discovered most of the beams in my own eyes when disciplining my children in the past, as I was telling them how God would be sad for doing what they had done. Instantly, I realizes, I was guilty of the same. It's only natural for a critical problem solver fixer (like myself) to see everybody's beams, and not my own. The older I get, the more visible they become. The more true word I hide in my heart (good spiritual data) the more comes the light. The more light to see by, the less darkness. More light helps me to see HIS target. God is light.....
  3. Denomination OR Doctrine?

    It appears everyone here agrees that doctrine, as compared to denomination, is obviously most important. But what about denominations. I have been ask upon occasion when witnessing to someone, where I would suggest they go to hear more about the gospel, the true gospel. I would tell them first to go home and read for themselves, and allow the spirit to show them. But as to a church, I've usually told them to seek out a small baptist church. Yes, I'm sure there are plenty of posters here to tell me about their bad experiences in a baptist church. As I can. But the reason I tell them to look for a small baptist church is simply, no matter how cold or rude or uncaring they appear to be, the preacher will be teaching/preaching out of the bible, the word, and the gospel message, salvation by grace through faith. This is what they need to hear, (true DOCTRINE!) Help them to find the truth, and then later, as a believer, to seek a church home of their choice, to be part of. I don't know if I've ever been to a service of any kind, Sunday service, funeral, wedding, etc, in a baptist church, where those gathered didn't hear the true gospel plan of salvation. As an ex catholic of thirty years, back then I never had any intention of setting foot in a tee-totaling thunder preaching, hypocritical filled baptist church. But my wife and I went to a small funeral forty years ago, for my neighbors little boy, and that old tiny baptist preacher ended the funeral service with the gospel message, the love of Jesus, which planted the seed in my wife and myself that shortly came to two more added to the kingdom of God. To me, doctrine is utmost importance, no matter the church. But you need to hear the true doctrine some where, so I advise in my own limited personal experience, to strangers or family. Yes, they are still hard shell (in doctrine) but are also loving believers, for the most part. And denominations, an understanding of beliefs, can help to decide where to visit when seeking a body of believers to be a part of. I have noticed on this forum, a lot of posters do not participate in any denominational church, or any church, at all, for a lot of reasons, which only they can justify to God, rightly or wrongly. And not willing to submit themselves to be a part of the LOCAL body. But we shouldn't condemn all the churches out there, of which some are trying to fight the good fight, with less and less members, as so many are leaving the traditional church, to start their own perceived perfect church, instead of toughing it out and do their part through the hard times. God is light, and the light can shine in any church, if spoken.
  4. Book of Enoch

    I apologize Gary. I got angry and I sinned. Please forgive me. (but I do have a new PC that seems to have died. I'm trying to fix it but when I was school computer engineering didn't even exist yet. I'm not even sure what the BIOS is. {I think it's a local bus} ) LOL But I am trying to fix it. Hello JTC. There was absolutely no reason for any apology to me. If anything I should apologize to you for misunderstanding your problem with your computer. I actually chuckled with your (perceived) dilemma. I often reply to a post and by the time I actually post it, it's already been answered several times. Or, I type up, one finger at a time, a well thought out, researched reply, only to lose it when I mistakenly push the "new page" button instead of the "preview" button, which clears all my research. Aurrgg.................(the new page button ought to have a warning, or at least color it in bold red). I just gotta remember, old age ain't for sissies.
  5. Book of Enoch

    Man, don't I know what you mean. My problem is not the PC being old, just the typist/composer. And while I'm typing, the little #@#**#* pop up reminder is informing me to hurry up, as there's already twelve more post's since I started typing...........
  6. Amen. It's the word that convicts anyway. Not our voice. The Lord isn't too subtle or suave, when you realize that His word is sharper than a double edged sword, and it penetrates very deep, all the way to the bone marrow! But, HIS sheep will hear it.
  7. Been there, huh? If we could think back to when we were lost, would have it mattered if the sower of the seeds had no bedside manners? Wise as a serpent, harmless as a dove. The Holy Spirit gives direction/discernment for sowing, seeds are planted, the Spirit takes over. Psa_126:6 He that goeth forth and weepeth, bearing precious seed, shall doubtless come again with rejoicing, bringing his sheaves with him.
  8. I remember when this first came out...

    Truth can hurt. God's truth can heal. Thanks, John D Joh 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
  9. Praise through the alphabet

    (H) Hallelujah..........!!!
  10. Prayer vs Bible Reading/Study?

    To answer your question, I do not set a time for either, yet I usually repeat the same time when I do, out of habit. When I wake, I acknowledge I'm going to need You Lord, and I want to be a blessing to someone today, work on my patience today, give an opportunity to talk to a stranger the good news, etc. Stuff like that, only a few minuets. Once or twice during the day again, a few minuets, then in bed, a review of the day, perhaps (probably) some confessing, Plenty of thanks, and usually some intersessions, also, only maybe five to ten minuets. Throughout the day, in my thinking (mind) I'm constantly confessing sin. By that I mean, if a thought comes in, ( I think too much) and it's not honoring God, I confess it. All day long I'm muttering "that's sin" (in order to not allow the sin to come to fruition) Taking thought's captive. Garbage (trying to get)in, garbage out. The more I practice this, the more I catch it before it I blow it. And. As I'm getting older, I also am constantly muttering "Thank you Lord" when my old body continues to co-operate. I probably spend maybe thirty minuets to an hour in scripture daily, though not a formal study. This forum keeps me in my e-Sword bible, my Oswald Chambers and Andrew Murry study's, and others. I do find it harder to just sit down and read a few chapters, vs having a reason/purpose to seek out a problem/solution/question. I don't pray for the sake of praying, coming from the RCC background. As I get older, so do my friends, and the more request's for help are spoken. Also, the more I'm grateful for the health I'm blessed with.
  11. No mater which side of the coin is used, it's counterfeit. We worship God in spirit and truth. A legalist worships through his proud stand on his keeping of the law. The antinomianism (had to look that one up) I think, see's the crucifixion as a cheap ticket to liberty "the power or scope to act as one pleases" The more a believer study's the person, Christ Jesus, the provider of "liberty in Christ" the more they become aware of their sin, from which they have been saved from. As the spirit opens my eyes, I'm overcome with an understanding of just how much mercy flows from my Lord. As I think most any believer in the word would understand. My obedience is the desire to please my savior, not impress Him or anybody else. I don't think anyone claiming salvation in Christ, can continue in the flesh. Yes, it is a work in progress. If they are saved, God will deal with them, as his child. Rom 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. Rom 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. Rom 6:20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness. (Not after knowing/believing)
  12. Is drinking alcohol a sin?

    But you did go there! That buzzing in your head wasnt a bee. Do you suppose they knew the word buzz back in biblical days or did they call it as it is? I am a serious student of the bible and I know for a fact wine is a generic term with many roots used in many different contexts rendering its meaning different . Oh, but Im not going there. I said buzz as "some here call it" yourself included. I, referred to it as relaxing, as I see it. There is no argument here. You say you are a serious student of the bible. That is a good thing. I know you understand what it means when the bible says "Be not drunk with wine" What would that imply? Can you understand then when someone says they do not want to debate the wine issue, even with an astute bible student. I answered the OP. The first line. Then elaborated my take on the issue of "Don't drink, dance, smoke or chew. Or hang out with those who do" thing. I try not to stand on the corner and shout to the Lord to look at all those things I don't do. He knows all those things I do, do. I'm striking my breast about those things. Would you have me to cease from my daily beer with my wife based upon your understanding of "The BUZZ" I was raised by an alcoholic father, in a dysfunctional home. God has forgiven me, I have forgiven my father. Alcohol was his way with dealing with his pain. I tried to show how I view how myself and others, that we should also remember to heed all God's warnings. Eat, but not to excess. Drink, but not to excess. Work, but not to excess, and so on. I'm sorry for you that I don't see it your way, but I will answer for my own decisions. I appreciate your sincere concern.
  13. Is drinking alcohol a sin?

    Is it a sin to eat/drink? No. Is it a sin to be a glutton/drunk? Yes. My turn. Let's start with the "causing your brother to stumble" scenario. What do you think about the weaker brethren watching/listening to this thread. Any problems? What about past threads, where two or more just could not let it lie, ever after others requested a stop to the never ending badgering. I personally felt a little shame/embarrassment, as a watching/listening brother. I understand an out of hand debate, getting in the last word. I also understand addiction. I smoked for fifty one years. When I started everybody smoked, but now it's not PC.(Or Healthy) I know the shame as a "role model for kids", sneaking around the corner to grab a smoke, between bible study and worship service. And I know all the "smoking jokes" (and shame), from the pulpit, and from others. I realized that most everybody has some addictions, not seen usually unless it's food, or smoking, and they (we) just cannot let go of it. I can sympathize. Most of the "smokers" jokes came from the hundred pound overweight pastor's pulpit. Most Christian smokers/drunks I know or have known, quit or were trying to quit. How many gossipers, back biters, tale bearers, always angry forum posters, are trying to quit, or even know they have a problem/addiction? My Sunday school teaching uncle told me, anything the devil can get you hooked on, narcotic, alcohol, sex, work, money, gossip, power, food, etc, is a victory for him. Most any day, at the end of the day, you will find me sitting on our back porch, usually with my wife, having my allocated one beer. I enjoy the "buzz", although short. I think of the period after my beer as relaxing, free from the intense work day stress. At home, with my wife. For that brief period, after the days toil, a few minuets of The buzz as some call it. Am I drunk? Gimme a break. Any student of the bible KNOWS what the bible says about drinking, wine, old testament wine, fermentation, and drunkenness. I'm not going there. There are cautions all over the scriptures. That relate to ALL aspects of life. NOT just the wine issue. I notice so many in church, at restaurants, in the stores, that are so overweight, and as I judge them, then realize I'm judging them, I confess, and pray for them, as I can sympathize with them. I know firsthand how hard it is to quit lifelong habits. We all deal with pain in our own way. Sometimes it's visible, and embarrassing. Alcoholism is not a problem at my church, based upon the attitude of the baptist, and my observations. Although, it's said that as Catholics are seen going into the doors of the liquor store, the baptist sneak in through the back door. The biggest problem I see within the Christian family is not alcoholism, but materialism. A young family has to have everything mom and pop took thirty-forty years to get. The house SUV furniture, big screen, stainless appliances kids four wheelers,hundred dollar sneakers, etc. etc. So, single income not enough, mom works, others raise the kids, day care, stress, extra jobs, less time for church, family time, and on and on. In our house, I worked for our income, my wife worked raising/teaching/caring for the kids. After work in the shop today, you will probably find me on the porch, reading my grease stained, cigarette burned, beer stained, falling apart, bible with all the different colored marks and scratches, and pictures and notes from my loved ones, stuffed full. I just might have a beer in the other hand. God is light. His word is true. Heed His Warnings. All of them.
  14. Is drinking alcohol a sin?

    Is it a sin to eat/drink? No. Is it a sin to be a glutton/drunk? Yes.
  15. Made in China your experience?

    I run about two dozen sheets of domestic (made in the U.S.) 3/4" MDO plywood to construct industrial enclosures for laboratory machines regularly monthly. The price has risen from mid fifty's to seventy dollars a sheet in just a few years.. China imports our hardwood to their homeland, veneers the the plywood sheets with them, then ships it in containers to sell back to us. And makes profit. Very bad trade agreements for their most favored nation status by Clinton in 98. Trump is about to set a tariff/duty on all import plywood to bring the trade more balanced. Domestic and import plywood will be going way up in price. Read below: From Forbes Foreign Affairs; We can all agree that protecting our workers from China’s cheating is not a Republican or a Democratic issue, but an American issue. As industry leaders within the U.S. hardwood plywood industry, we have witnessed first-hand the negative impact caused by China’s not playing by the rules and how it hurts thousands of American jobs in communities like ours in Oregon and across the nation. For years, the Chinese have been aggressively dumping their product into the United States and decimating the U.S. hardwood plywood industry. Over the last two years alone, Chinese hardwood plywood exports to the U.S. have increased by 35% - 40%, an absolute increase of $300 million, which has already caused material injury to an important American industry and negatively impacted thousands of American jobs. Just last year, the United States imported approximately $1.1 billion worth of Chinese hardwood and decorative plywood, which has now taken more than 50 percent of the U.S. market. The Chinese government provides illegal subsidies to domestic hardwood plywood producers in the form of tax breaks and discounted land and raw materials, which allows them to sell their products at dumped prices in the U.S. To many, these are just empty numbers, but to thousands of Americans these numbers mean their livelihoods are being destroyed by China not playing by the rules. As a result of China’s illegal trade practices, The Coalition for Fair Trade of Hardwood Plywood filed a petition with the U.S. Department of Commerce and International Trade Commission (ITC) to help save thousands of American jobs and stand up to China. The petition lays out how imports of hardwood plywood are being sold into the United States at “dumped prices” and shows the extent of illegal government subsidies that Chinese producers of hardwood plywood products receive. Our evidence is compelling and it lays out in detail the extent of China’s illegal subsides to their domestic hardwood plywood industry. Earlier this month, our case made it through the first of many hoops; the U.S. Department of Commerce found the evidence compelling enough to launch an investigation into these unfair trade practices. However, this is only the beginning of the process. Some groups that benefit from cheap Chinese hardwood plywood products oppose our efforts to help save thousands of American jobs. While such a short-sighted position may help them temporarily, it does not benefit thousands of U.S. hardwood plywood workers and tens of thousands of indirect jobs, that are under threat due to China’s illegal trade practices. We must come together, stand up to China’s cheating and put American workers first.