Bible_Gazer

Spot on Paul - Php 1:23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better: 24 Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you. I think Paul is talking about being with the Lord Jesus. For that to happen we must shed this earthly house and put into a new house. Like it say in 2Co.5:1-2 Seem to be that we as humanity cannot be in heaven without a body.

So how do we offend God ? Is there a fix ? Do we offend him everyday or sometime ? Do we fix it everyday or ? Does God requires repenting every time we offend him ? Is it in the act or in the heart that God considers our ways ?

When a believer first come to Jesus and repent for their past sins that is a general since of all sins committed. Problem I have is the thoughts of some here is if I read it right, is that you are already forgiven of your future sins. I disagree. I think we can sin an unforgiveable sin in the future. Like for instance : blaspheme the Holy Ghost. Since some belief is, you can never live above sin anyway, I can see how it is understood you will have to be forgiven because its the only way it can work. Since there is people in heaven and nobody ever lived above sin, having sin in your life is not a real problem keeping us from going also. Seem to be its never discuss about changing not to sin, but that sin jut is a thing that exist in us and we can't stop it. Since sin in us is stronger than Jesus in us, we will sin continually in this flesh house. (flesh is stronger ?) So future sin is forgiven no matter what because Jesus forgive us who we are and what we are, it doesn't matter. So when we go to heaven we are a different person, brand new, no past sinful experiences because it's washed away not to be remembered. Our mind is new, we began a new life as a child. Well anyway I don't see it like I wrote here. I do think we should repent when we sin, its saying something about your heart toward God. He did tell the churches in Revelation to repent, so it is important.

What does the 10 virgins falling asleep mean? Seem to be since its a parable that using sleep as being unaware . Not knowing when the bridegroom is coming. We must be ready or prepared for his coming even tho we do not know when he will show up. If we sleep unready, we wake up unready.

I do think Jesus was in the image of likeness of his Father. When we know Jesus we know who the Father is. God was manifested in the flesh through his Son, as we ought to manifest Jesus in our flesh with our life. Yes, no man seen God, not that he is invisible as invisible, its just saying no man ever saw him. IF God was in the flesh, a lot of people saw him walking around and some saw him died.

1 John 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.

If these two prophets are just 2 people. Why do most people think they have to be somebody from the past. I would think it would be somebody from the church at that time. I see it seem to me you are a futurist. Everything from Rev. 6 is all future. I have a hard time making that work. I am a mixture with Rev. Preterist - some of it was during the Roman Empire and Holy Roman Empire time. Futurist - some of it is for the future Historicist - some of it is History already fulfilled Past - Present - Future It was written to the early church to let them know what was going to happened to the church falling away and restored. For us it is for to know history of the church and restoration of the church and the future church. I don't the think the first part of Rev. 11 until you read about the 7 trumpet is all in between trumpet 6 and 7. I think part of is starting from the early church up to the coming of the Lord. I don't think everything in Rev. is all in chronological order as you read it. If so, we are going to have 3 different beasts coming at different times from different places. book of Revelation is a head scratcher sometime.

I think these are: Two candlestick = Rev. 1 candlesticks represented churches Two olive trees = Jews and Gentiles Two witnesses = represent Jesus and his Gospel Two prophets = represent his ministry The great city Sodom(flesh) and Egypt(false religions) = False Christianity crucifying our Lord afresh. Hebrews 6 The Temple = was the early rain church with its Apostles and ministry and saints. Gentile trampled it = falling away two witnesses standing on their feet again = restored church in the latter rain.

One of the most dangerous part of humane nature is the freedom to think . It was the best thing in the creation for God to get a true heart to love him. Sin nature doctrine takes that freedom away in what God is trying to accomplish in mankind. Adam and Eve had freewill and sinned without a sin nature. Our immoral nature or moral nature is created after we are born. We are judged for our own sins committed, we don't die for our parents sins committed. my thoughts

Deuteronomy 17:14-17 14 When thou art come unto the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, and shalt possess it, and shalt dwell therein, and shalt say, I will set a king over me, like as all the nations that are about me; 15 Thou shalt in any wise set him king over thee, whom the LORD thy God shall choose: one from among thy brethren shalt thou set king over thee: thou mayest not set a stranger over thee, which is not thy brother. 16 But he shall not multiply horses to himself, nor cause the people to return to Egypt, to the end that he should multiply horses: forasmuch as the LORD hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way. 17 Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold. Seem some have not held up to this

Hell Is not good or good for you Hell cannot not give eternal life Hell will come to an end No more pain ….No more crying...... no more death Lake of Fire seem to be the final, everything is dead that goes into it. New Heaven and New Earth, so where can a natural hell exist ?

Satan and devils and evil spirits are in the bible. Should we not teach about it ? We are not to be ignorant of his devices. 2 Corinthians 2:11 11 Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices. some do not believe that their is an outside being call the devil, they believe it is us. so why put on the whole armor of God ? what does it say. The bible seem to want us to know about our enemy, not to have friendship with darkness.

So is the beast from the pit is spiritual ? The beast from the sea and earth is not spiritual right ? The Red Dragon Satan(not called a beast by Revealtion) is from heaven, an Angelical being, he wouldn't be spiritual since he has a body right ? I don't think that there is a scripture to show that Satan can go back and forth in some fiery hellish place. Why would he. So do you think Satan is in the bottomless pit now or ever has been ? Seem to me you think there is another world in the earth, that is free to come and go ? correct me on this if I am wrong As far as some that believe in a hell, those being are locked up in that place, if there is really anybody there before the judgment.

I don't think the bottomless pit is hole in the ground without a bottom to it. Especially inside the Earth. The beast is a people(a nation or nations) system government and this type of system came from the ungodly false bottomless world(on top of Earth). To me the beast from the sea, Earth and the bottomless pit is all here on the Earth, because it is about people. Proverbs 10:25 As the whirlwind passeth, so is the wicked no more: but the righteous is an everlasting foundation. Ephesians 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; Luke 6:48 48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. Luke 6:49 49 But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great. So what is the difference from this rock and the earth ? is this a real place or a condition ?

Rev. 17 8th Beast The Woman sits on the = waters, mountains, and the Beast = these three are one union or same group. They are all in the wilderness with the woman. v1 So the waters , mountains, and the Beast all have humanity into it. So how much differences is the sea and water ? probably nothing

If we count up the heads in Daniel 7: 1: The Beast with the lion head - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1 head 2. The Beast that looked like a Bear - - - - - - - - - - - - 1 head 3. The Beast that looked like a leopard with 4 wings - - - 4 1 heads 4. The terrible beast - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1 head. These add up to 7 4 heads. represent Babylon, Medo-Persia , Greece and Rome (At the time of Christ?). For Revelation many have thought: 1. Egypt 2. Assyria 3. Babylon - Dan. 2 begins here because its in the time of Daniel in Babylon 4. medo-Persia 5. Greece 6. Rome 7. The Beast of Rev. 13 - This is still the Iron Kingdom Rome, the iron and clay condition, still has the strength of iron but a divided kingdom Dan.2:41, it became weaken. Its the last kingdom = Dan.2 iron and clay Dan.7 the 4th Beast Rev.13 2beast Rev.17 8th beast is of the seven kingdom beast. Your thoughts? These Kingdoms are the one that has ruled over Israel or God's people. The revived Iron Kingdom Rev. 13 & 17 will rule again, its the last one according to Dan.2 and Dan. 7. The Iron Kingdom finally die out. My take on this.

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: This is the key to have him with you always. The same was with the OT saints. I don't think God ever forsaken anybody that truly serve him in the OT or NT. He grant them both a resurrection. The law was a school master to Christ, a reflection of the true sun. Now that we have the Son we no longer need the lesser light, we come to the only true light. I think Paul mention that there is a possibility of being a castaway. 1Cor.9:27

no God the Father is one being Jesus the son of the Father is another being. God spirit is holy, so its called the Holy Spirit, this is what we feel from God. Jesus prayed to his god to save him.

So does God test us so he will know more about us, because he doesn't know ? or We get the test to know about ourselves, because we don't really know ourselves ? God tested Abraham to see if he would follow thru . Gen.22 God gave the manna to test them, to see if they would follow the instructions. Exodus 16:4

Rev. 8 the Angel cast fire into the earth = is this another calamity before the Angel start to blow the 7 trumpets messages ? Revelation 8:5-6 (KJV) 5 And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake. 6 And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound. What is about to happen before the 7 trumpets ?

Seem like the trumpets given by the Angels are messenger, Rev. 8 says the trumpets were voices. Is it just that the trumpets are just warning of things to come, but they don't come by the trumpets, but by the vials. Seem to be that the trumpets and vials are sort of parallel with each other with the same destruction. If the trumpets are during the first 3 1/2 years then nothing really happens, maybe the time of "come out of her my people" so they will not be part of the destruction. Interesting is in Rev.8 there seem to be a great commotion going on before the trumpets begin to sound. Fire cast into the earth and an earthquake. explain this ?

Thanks speaking Donkey for your input. Well it does seem the Lord will gain control of sea and land where humanity is. He still rules in the kingdom of men. I think the thunders is something to do with the Millennium also.

*[[1Sa 31:12]] KJV* All the valiant men arose, and went all night, and took the body of Saul and the bodies of his sons from the wall of Bethshan, and came to Jabesh, and burnt them there.

5. Time no longer v.6 ? what is this about ? Any thoughts on this ? What when ? If its somewhere in the 7 years time frame, is there still time to be reckon with ? 3 1/2 years, 1,000 years …….

I seem to agree with the first part about the scene of Rev. 10. the 7 thunder is as you said. Its already been said and John heard it, it seem to be for earth. so it just most likely will be written, God can add to this book if he wants to, man can't add to it. Just don't know since its a Thunder if its - good news or bad news warning