WilliamL

Ukrainian Pit Bull Terrier fights Russian Bear. Getting more than a few nips in.

Your argument was clearly stated in the subject heading, implied in the first post, and then confirmed in the post above, where you say "Both schemes were crafted by jesuits to protect the pope..." So you clearly state that neither 'false crafted scheme' has any theological merit -- without ever actually examining whether or not one or the other might in fact have some merit. Attack the logic of an argument, not the one who says it: always the better plan. (Ad hominem means "against the man.")

This is an example of an ad hominem argument.

So you claim. By means of researching out all of the biblical and historical evidence. Not merely a small part of it. Explained in a 8-part series of blog posts, the first four being these: 68. The Beast Is Not a (Seven-Headed!) Man, Part 1 Explains why the Beast of Revelation 13 cannot be a man, and reveals who and what it really is. https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/2778-the-beast-is-not-a-seven-headed-man-part-1/ 69. The Beast, Part 2: Its Seven Heads https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/2779-the-beast-part-2-its-seven-heads/ 70. The Beast, Part 3: Who IS the Beast? https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/2780-the-beast-part-3-who-is-the-beast/ 71. The Beast, Part 4: Azazel and the Abyss https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/2786-the-beast-part-4-azazel-and-the-abyss/

I don't know what version you are citing, but this is by no means an accurate translation of the Hebrew text. Not by a long shot. My own translation of Daniel 9:27, explained word-for-word in meticulous detail, can be found here: 43. Daniel 9:24-27 Examined, Part 5: Verse 27 A very detailed translation and grammatical explanation of Daniel 9:27, which reveals various mistranslations found in different English versions of the Bible. https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/1598-daniel-924-27-examined-part-5-verse-27/ I challenge you to show where my translation contradicts the Hebraic text. If you cannot, then you are basing your teaching(s) on a faulty foundation.

Actually, a closer reading of Rev. 13:5 -- And it was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and it was given authority to continue for forty-two months... -- shows that the antecedent to the second "it" is "mouth," not beast. The Mouth of the Beast So the Beast and the False Prophet are rebellious fallen angels, not men. However, the Beast will be Revelation 13:5 …given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies… 6 …against God… 5 …and he [will be] given authority for 42 months [= 1260 days]. … 7 It [will be] granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. A biblical precedent for a spokesman being called a mouth is found in the case of Moses and Aaron: Exodus 4:16 …he [Aaron] shall speak for you [Moses] unto the people…he himself shall be to you for a mouth… The mouth/spokesman of Revelation 13:5 was previously revealed to the prophet Daniel in his vision of Daniel 7. He is the Little Horn of verses 7 and following, who is described in phrases nearly identical to those in Revelation 13:5-7 above – Daniel 7:8 “…[having] eyes like the eyes of a man, and a mouth speaking pompous words… 25 …against the Most High. He shall afflict the saints of the Most High…and they shall be given into his hand for a time and times and half a time [= 1260 days].” 26 Then the [heavenly] court shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion… So this “horn” will be the spokesman/mouthpiece of the Beast, and not be the Beast itself. He will be a servant of the Beast-spirit. He will either be a man or a Nephil, that is, an angel-man hybrid; or possibly a descendant of a Nephil. The term horn is commonly used throughout Scripture to denote a powerful human leader. For example, “horn of David” is a term used for Christ. Luke 1:69; Ps. 132:17 The Mouth of the Beast = the Little Horn will rule for only 3½ times = 42 months = 1260 days, up to the 7th Trumpet. Rev. 13:5; 11:3, 7, 15ff.; Dan. 7:25-26; 12:7 At that point, which fulfills “the time of Jacob’s trouble,” the Little Horn’s dominion is “taken away,” and he disappears from view in both the visions of Daniel and Revelation. However, the Beast, which is a spirit, will outlast him, and not meet his final doom until the Judgment of the 7th Bowl, the Battle of Armageddon. https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/2801-the-beast-part-6-the-mouth-of-the-beast/

Satan has been called a dragon for a very long time. At one point, he indwelt a physical serpent. Do you know biblical history? Starts in Genesis In Rev. 5, Jesus is called a lion, yet depicted as a lamb. These two images are different spiritual garments donned by the Son of God, according to the nature of the occasion. There is a big difference between spiritual beings and the garments and armor in which they are clothed. When Jesus appears as the slain Lamb in Revelation 5, He is wearing a heavenly garment that shows His righteous act as a sacrificial offering for redemption. When He appears with a sword in His mouth in Revelation 19, He is wearing the armor of the Sword of the Spirit. Such spiritual garments and armor portray the spiritual realities at the time, ones not seen by earthly eyes. When Satan appears in heaven as a red dragon, that is also a spiritual garment, one that accurately portrays his nature at that instant. https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/2950-the-24-elders-of-revelation-part-4-the-heavenly-appearance-of-the-lamb/

Primarily the NKJV, but corrected to accurately provide the literal Hebrew text. Explained here: And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased him… And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father: for this [Manasseh] is the firstborn: put thy right hand upon his head. And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it…but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become the fullness of the nations. [Hebrew, וְזַרְעֹו יִהְיֶה מְלֹא־הַגֹּויִם; the Greek Septuagint has, kαι το σπέρμα αυτού έσται εις πλήθος εθνών: and his seed will be in (or, among) a multitude of nations. The KJV mostly follows the Septuagint; but see Rom. 11:25 in Part 3, where the [Paul's] Greek follows the Hebrew text.] Gen. 48:17-19 https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/2928-joseph-part-2-the-heritage-of-joseph/ Thanks for asking. The KJV authors, and the translators that followed in their vein, had a bad habit (IMHO) of cherry-picking out some LXX versions of passages with which to replace the Hebrew, without explaining their justification for doing so. Another such bad example is their notoriously corrupted version of Daniel 9:27.

Hence the surnames Jacobson, Isaacson (i.e., Saxons), and Abramson.

Even if Hamas is completely overthrown, there will still be the PALESTINIAN NATIONAL AUTHORITY (PA) & FATAH residing in much of Judea and Samaria. So almost certainly "peace and safety" will have to arise by another means. Shocking! (P.S. welcome back.)

Matt. 24:37 But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39 and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.

...but we are given a prophetic description of the general time. Which, of course, I wrote a blog about. Joseph, Part 4: “The Fullness of the Nations” Genesis 48:19 …but truly his [Manasseh’s] younger brother [Ephraim] shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become the fullness of the nations. Romans 11:25 …blindness in part has happened to Israel UNTIL the fullness/plērōma of the nations shall have come in. 26 And AFTER that all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 For this is my covenant with them, when I shall take away their sins. Ephesians 1:7 In Him [Jesus] we have redemption through His blood… 10 UNTO a dispensation of the fullness/plērōma of the times, to head up all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth, [even] in him. Luke 21:24 And they [the Jews] shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem shall be being trodden down by the nations UNTIL the times of the nations be fulfilled/plērōthōsin. The patriarchal prophecy by Jacob, when he made the sign of the cross with his hands upon the heads of Joseph’s sons Ephraim and Manasseh (Gen. 48:13ff.) – the first instance in the Bible of a laying on of hands – has a much greater significance for our times than most Christians and Jews realize. In part, because Jacob made Joseph “the Nazir/Consecrated One of his brothers” (Gen. 49:26), which consecration passed on through his sons. Christianity, the religion of the cross, was established in Britain by the mid-30’s A.D. Paul prophesied in Romans 11:25 that when Jacob’s prophecy of “the fullness of the nations” reaches its fulfillment, then, essentially, the End of the Christian Age will come. For God will not begin to restore fallen Israelites to salvation until “AFTER” that time. That time being when the Gospel has been preached to “all the nations” of the earth (Matt. 28:19), primarily through the efforts of Anglo-American evangelists. Matthew 24:24 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and THEN the end will come. This worldwide evangelism only became possible through the international law-keeping established by the Pax Britannica and the Pax Americana. AFTER this prophesied era of the evangelization of the nations has been fulfilled, Jesus shall return in the clouds of heaven: then “every eye will see Him,” “all the tribes of the earth will wail,” and the Jews will “mourn for Him,” understanding that He is their Messiah “whom they pierced.” Rev. 1:7; Matt. 24:30; Zech. 12:10 So we should look around the world, and judge whether or not this part of Joseph’s destiny has been fulfilled, or is near to it. Is not the Anglo-American hegemony and its Christianity increasingly being resisted and replaced by an international hegemony of an anti-American and anti-Christian New World Order? If so, “the times of the nations” is near to its fulness.

In a word, presumptions. People begin with conscious and/or unconscious presumptions, which they add into their understanding of the prophecies. Rather than getting the fullness of their understanding from the Word only, and related things such as historical truths. " The Lord chose to scatter a multitude of prophetic pieces of the End Time jigsaw puzzle-picture throughout the Bible. Most people try to assemble all of the scattered pieces into one complete scene without ever having any picture on a box cover to guide them. " The Exodus story provides a guiding picture. Every basic theme and event of the End Times is in that biblical picture story, but people refuse to look at it. Instead, they work from distorted pictures formed in their minds out of presumptions about how they think things will be, or from what others have told them. And so they end up trying to jam puzzle pieces together that weren't made to fit the way they think they should. " https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/995-every-eye-will-see-him-part-3/ True. Logic often fails to determine truth. As here. Daniel 9:26b-27's description of the physical destruction of the Temple and the city of Jerusalem did not take place within 7 years of the Messiah's ministry. Rather, it began to take place 40 years later: One issue that has rightly troubled many commentators is the gap in time, presumed by both the future and historical views, between the end of the 69 weeks of years and the beginning of the 70th. Some few people believe there was no gap, and the last seven (or three and one-half) years immediately followed the death of Jesus. However, they can provide no plausible argument for the fulfillment of the seven events prophesied by verses 26b-27. Nothing of the kind occurred in the 30s A.D. Likewise, the future view has no convincing biblical argument for a nearly 2000-year gap. The historical view does provide a legitimate reason for a gap, however, which is this: 40 years (or days) was Godʼs standard period for the testing of His people Israelʼs obedience. In particular, God tested Israelʼs faithfulness for 40 years after they entered into the Mosaic Covenant at Mount Sinai. All the Israelites of adult age who failed that test died. God likewise allotted 40 years to test whether the Jewish people, and especially their religious leaders, would accept or reject Christ’s New Covenant. After those 40 years were fulfilled, the rebels against the New Covenant had their holy city and Temple destroyed, which effectively ended many mandated practices of the Old Covenant. That covenant required both a Temple and a place to gather for the yearly festivals of the Law. Both places were destroyed, and the Temple was never rebuilt. 45. Daniel 9:24-27 Examined, Part 7: Were Verses 26b-27 Fulfilled Historically? Tests the view that the seven prophesied events were fulfilled during the Jewish War of 66-73 A.D. Also, explains the reason for the time-gap between the 69th and 70th weeks. https://worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/1611-daniel-924-27-examined-part-7-were-verses-26b-27-fulfilled-historically/

Spring Assemblies – Representations Already Fulfilled in Type Here and in Part 3 are the 7 מֹועֲדֵי/yearly appointed times of the LORD that are also holy מִקְרָאֵי/assemblies. First, the three Spring assemblies – representations already fulfilled in type: 1) first day of the חַג/Feast of Unleavened Bread, wherein the Passover sacrifice of a lamb was consumed, and by when all old leaven was to be discarded; 1st month, 15th day. Lev. 23:6-7 Temple part: Altar of Sacrifice. Representation: Sacrifice of carnal acts and desires of the flesh, by means of repentance. And thereby, resurrection and salvation of the body from physical (= the first) death. John 8:34; Rom. 6:6-7 Fulfillment: The crucifixion of the body of Jesus, bringing to pass a resurrection of the dead. A resurrection to life, coming by means of our consumption of His body and His blood. Matt. 26:26-28; John 6:47-58; 1 Cor. 5:7-8 2) seventh day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread; 1st month, 21st day. Lev. 23:8 The day Israel passed through the Red Sea, thereby being delivered from the worldly influences of Egypt. Temple part: Laver of Washing. Representation: Water baptism. “…all were baptized into Moses…in the [Red] sea…” 1 Cor. 10:1-2 Fulfillment: “Baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.” Mark 1:4 The blood of Christ washes away the worldly sins of our souls, including worldly relationships and worldly doctrine. Leaven represents doctrine. Matt. 16:5-12 3) חַג/Feast of Weeks/Pentecost; seven weeks from the first weekly Sabbath after the first Feast day of Unleavened Bread. (That Sabbath being the day of the “Firstfruits Wave Offering.”) Lev. 23:15-21 Bread with new leaven (= the establishment of new doctrine) is offered up in the Temple. Lev. 23:17 The Day that YHWH established in Israel His new doctrine from Mount Sinai: the Ten Commandments. Ex. 24:1-9 Temple parts: Holy Place, with its 1) Lampstand: Holy Spirit anointing; 2) Table of Showbread: the bread/doctrine/Gospel of Christ; and 3) Altar of Incense: sacrifices of praise and intercessory prayer. Representation: Baptism of the Holy Spirit. Fulfillment: The infilling of Christ’s disciples with the Holy Spirit on Pentecost, seven weeks after He first ascended into heaven on the yearly appointed day of the Firstfruits Wave Offering. Acts 1 - 2:4 Autumn assemblies – representations yet to be fulfilled in type: 4) ‘Feast of Trumpets’ (lit., Memorial Sabbatism of Blowing Horns); 7th month, 1st day. Lev. 23:24-25 Temple part: veil between the Holy Place and the Most Holy Place. Representation: Judgment announced, begins. Dan. 7:10d (A Jewish religious tradition says that the dead will be raised on this day.) 5) Day of Atonement; 7th month, 10th day. Lev. 23:27-32 Temple parts: Most Holy Place, with its Ark of the Covenant, whereon the blood of redemption is sprinkled. Lev. 16:14-15 Representation: Judgment sealed, for both the righteous and the unrighteous. John 5:28-29; Dan. 12:2-3 6) first day of the seven-day חַג/Feast of Tabernacles; 7th month, 15th day. Lev. 23:34-36a Temple parts: Most Holy Place, and the angels whose wings overcover the Ark. ; Ex. 37:7-9 At this time, the raptured Church will be “standing before the throne [of God] and before the Lamb…” Rev. 7:9; Luke 21:36 “And the One sitting on the throne will spread his tabernacle over them.” Rev. 7:15 Representation: Redemption from spiritual slavery and spiritual (= the second) death. At which time, the bodies of the redeemed will be made immortal, and taken to dwell within and under God’s heavenly Tabernacle. 7) Shemini [Eighth Day)] Atzereth [Closing-Up Assembly],” which concludes the yearly cycle of 7 Holy Assembly Days; 7th month, 22nd day, the day after the Feast of Tabernacles ends. Lev. 23:36b Temple part: “…[there will be] no naos/holy sanctuary in it, for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its naos/holy sanctuary.” Rev. 21:22 Representation: New Heavens and New Earth: complete fulfillment of mankind’s redemption. Taken all together, the yearly cycle of “rehearsals” portrayed, in type, God’s whole Plan of Redemption for the human race. That process begins with the sacrifice of our carnal nature – which nature resulted from Adam’s and Eve’s choices in Eden – and concludes with the complete restoration of the redeemed ones before the face of God in the New Heavens, New Earth, and New Jerusalem: Revelation 22:4 They shall gaze upon His face, and His name shall be upon their foreheads. 117. Israel’s 7 Appointed Holy Assembly Days, Part 2: Spring Assemblies – Representations Already Fulfilled in Type https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/3807-israel’s-7-appointed-sacred-assembly-days-part-2-spring-assemblies-–-representations-already-fulfilled-in-type/ 118. Israel’s 7 Appointed Holy Assembly Days, Part 3: Autumn Assemblies – Representations Yet to Be Fulfilled in Type https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/3821-israel’s-7-appointed-holy-assembly-days-part-3-autumn-assemblies-–-representations-yet-to-be-fulfilled-in-type/

What is ultimately real is that God exists and created the cosmos; and that God manifested Himself in the flesh in Jesus Christ. Do you really believe that super-AIs will arrive at these truths? or will their underlying programming be such that they will not be allowed to really accept reality?