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Yes, TORAH ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (ROMANS 3 and HEBREWS 10, et al ) Oh, look, TORAH >>>>

A contractor I've known almost 20 years was diagnosed with cancer 2 months , almost 3 months ago. He had a pr score of over 1980 and didn't know what to do ... (the doctors didn't inspire much hope). He ended up going to one of the best clinics that did immune system therapy, and in one week his score dropped to 980, and after 2 weeks to 198, (that was about a month ago now), and he was / is very happy. (they didn't use any drugs, and had natural controls for the pain: all the pain went away within 3 weeks I think (that's normal average at the good clinics) ... He was surprised how happy every was, patients and staff, and practically no one "lost hope", not even terminal patients.(most of whom survived / recovered very well)

Really ? I think the first such list is found in GENESIS , EXODUS, LEVITICUS, NUMBERS and DEUTERONOMY, and JESUS verified this when HE was asked.

The list varies group to group. Devour SCRIPTURE and see what the CREATOR says, HIS list never changes. (and is mostly unknown and not honored). But as HIS WORD says, HONORING HIS WORD leads to LIFE, and to LIFE ABUNDANTLY. (i.e. is very very good to do) .

COOL test -imony (play on "test") , and GOOD. (edifying and helpful). The Scriptures say to test everyone who brings a message , yet the most popular like her, and a long list of others, seem to be beyond testing according to a lot of their followers (reasons unknown, or unimportant). The most popular in JESUS day, and in the last 100 years, were false teachers, and more numerous than the truth teachers, so use the same CRITERIA - SCRIPTURES, to test or evaluate each one as YHWH(GOD) says to plainly. This could possibly prevent a lot of heartache (and much worse consequences) even ten, twenty or forty years down the road of life. (as some on this forum have noted - absently following someone or some teaching for forty years or more before finding out ... and IF (since some never do find out) ) .... JESUS repeated the warnings more often than the blessings I think. So the warnings (to test everything) are important to HIM, and to HIS followers.

Each sentence you posted has several SCRIPTURES related to it, practically. All SCRIPTURE is TRUTH. (YHWH'S WORD, BREATHED BY HIM). So, to understand SCRIPTURE , to see how everything is for SALVATION , seems to be the desire here. YHWH grants through Y'SHUA (JESUS) the solution at the appropriate time: " Then opened HE their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures," This is TRUTH , and is the same for all of YHWH'S CHILDREN/ Y'SHUA'S disciples. When HE opens the understanding of SCRIPTURE, all the apparent dilemmas are perfectly resolved, without violating any SCRIPTURE.

Many little children, when they first saw the bar codes (like a life time ago ! ) , recognized them for what they are - part of the system being developed to oppress and to control everyone and every item. Of this there is no doubt. "THE SYSTEM" as described in SCRIPTURE is not good for anyone. It did not and does not spring up suddenly overnight - it has been being developed for a century or centuries, easily.---- perhaps as some describe it throughout history , ever since the one world church and owg have been the goal of men under the control of the prince of the power of the air ---- i.e. thousands of years ...... (the overwhelming wickedness of men and of society (nor of the devil) has never gone away (not since the flood! ) ) JESUS describes the SYSTEM several times in SCRIPTURE. It is just as HE says. (overwhelmingly and astonishingly evil and wickedness in high places and in low places, everywhere on earth).... The last 10 years, governments and industry, corporations and businesses, businessmen and churches, have been able to link in to the SYSTEM, depending on how much they are willing to pay, and get various levels of AI ........ it is not good for the poor.

The other poster summed it up just as it is written in YHWH'S WORD. Like KING DAVID lived properly according to YHWH'S HEART, he would not take any action nor speak any words nor permit them against KING SAUL, the LORD'S anointed, no matter how KING SAUL acted. YHWH tells us what to do. Maybe not why, maybe not how. No worries. We are to do what YHWH says to do. (HE accepted no excuses OT nor NT). If anything occurs that troubles us or makes us wonder whether to disobey YHWH, that is a common temptation to sin. Take it to YHWH in prayer, always, and continue trusting and relying on HIM and on Y'SHUA'S FAITHFULNESS. HE is the GOOD SHEPHERD. HE SHEPHERDS US. HE is responsible for us, for our lives, today and forever. So always do as HIS WORD SAYS. (even unto death, with suffering without complaint, as HE SAYS in HIS WORD --- as HE LIVED and showed how to live also (everything HE requires of us, HE went through moreso HIMSELF) ...

What is written in SCRIPTURE ? (this is the standard) WHY honor your parents ? (not because they are 'good') (for similar comparison) WHAT does YHWH say to slaves of (even) very harsh and cruel owners ? (not only to 'good' and upright owners) It doesn't matter what someone believes, if they disobey YHWH. (or does it) .... This is altogether different in character than the op, also - what is written ? (this is covered in TORAH)

This is common on internet forums - whistleblowers like the Apostles, Martin Luther, Keith Green, David Wilkerson, and even at times Corrie ten Boom (yes, even her) are not welcome by many, and so the threads and posts and news stories are removed/deleted, and sometimes banned. Searching online for yourself who has been acting, living and preaching sermons or lessons that are directly contrary to the BIBLE is not difficult. Just don't try to post the results here - it often disappears, especially when the heretic is popular.

Like JESUS says to HIS disciples (true disciples) whose lives were totally changed: Others will welcome you and party with you and pat you on the back, pretending to be a true friend, until they find out that you serve a living GOD WHO requires a total life change. Then they will turn on you and "gnash their teeth" on you, rebuke you, even perhaps curse you and put you to death, all the while believing that they are doing GOD a favor. The social club has many more members than the body of CHRIST does.

Like JESUS says to HIS disciples (true disciples) whose lives were totally changed: Others will welcome you and party with you and pat you on the back, pretending to be a true friend, until they find out that you serve a living GOD WHO requires a total life change. Then they will turn on you and "gnash their teeth" on you, rebuke you, even perhaps curse you and put you to death, all the while believing that they are doing GOD a favor. The social club has many more members than the body of CHRIST does.

Recently a large chuck of society did disappear, rather unexpectedly. Rapture ? no. But probably more than will disappear IF any rapture does occur, so it won't even be noticed.("IF" it happens)

There was no famine during the years around woodstock. in the usa. Things changed after the 50's - 60's that caused overweight regardless of eating habits. Again note that the movies, pictures, etc of crowds, concerts, parades, events before 1960 in the usa show none if any overweight persons. Likewise, see this in SCRIPTURE, and clearly detailed in the book "MOSES Wasn't fat". It is a "new" phenomena in the untied states, and has results (as expected) of billions upon billions of dollars of extra profits for pharmacy, doctors, and many other 'industries' that don't care - they love it. The clinics and individuals who have discovered, explored, investigated , published and dealt with this humanely have been for the most part swept aside (ignored). A few licensed doctors with a much higher success rate than average were blacklisted after they published what they found. Too much money is involved for the truth to be published. The lies that make money super-abound both in government and medical and schools and churches etc etc etc all through society with few exceptions, just as written in SCRIPTURE.

I never made any claim for anyone in or out of the church being a "christian". YHWH won't excuse anyone for or because of the time they live in, nor for the unbelief all around them. The world is getting worse daily, and dramatically so, just as it is written in SCRIPTURE. Finding anyone with the attitude of CHRIST is rare, as I posted >

It's awkward, perhaps true, whether things are really outside a person's control, unless they are minors. Look at pictures of woodstock from decades ago. Over 50,000 people more or less, and not one overweight. Within 2 or 3 decades, massive changes. (pun intended). The reasons, or causes, were within man's control. Now, today, for lack of knowledge (personally,of this), it may seem outside man's control. Clinics everywhere (figuratively), have wonderful success (maintaining or achieving health again) , as do individuals, families, communities, in some areas. (where the knowledge is preserved)

For a long time I've had the attitude of CHRIST, HIS GIFT, as HIS WORD SAYS. For a short time, I've asked others, verbally, out loud, in person, if they have the attitude of CHRIST. So far, almost no one, in church, or out of church, says they have, or even desires to have, the attitude of CHRIST. Instead, in church, and out of church, they say out loud excuses why they don't. (they both don't have the attitude of CHRIST (as written in the BIBLE for ecclesia, a gift), and they don't do what CHRIST says to do - they don't live as CHRIST says to live, and they have reason(s) why not (instead of faith in YHWH (GOD) to live HIS WAY as HE PLANNED ecclesia to live).

And what did JESUS' disciples, JESUS' followers do ? Thay had assemblies where the wicked were not allowed to attend. Keep seeking God's Kingdom and the people who live as HIS WORD says to. Those assemblies are a life-giving blessing from and thru JESUS.

Everyone has been enable to, perhaps ! Everyone I meet, know, have known, has had a choice to make. Even though Jesus did die for them also, most of them , like most all people you know, have chosen wrong. They all, each and every one of them, were enabled by God's Grace thru Jesus Grace to be able to chose right. They just love the world, or something or things of the world, more than God, so they remain dead in sins.

Adam and Havah died as soon as they sinned. Yet they continued on earth "alive" and having babies and so on for what? about 900 more years , right ? When someone dies, they may go directly to heaven or hades...... in less time than a heart beat maybe. Yet by the time they are resurrected as written, hundreds or thousands of years (men's years) may have passed. Not one part, not one little vowel or punctuation of YHWH'S WORD is imperfect, not one letter or word of HIS is untrue.

see online free Corrie ten Boom's letter concerning the tribulation / persecution of the believers worldwide for a good century now. --- i.e . 80% of believers worldwide are severely persecuted already, even to death....

Right. I think all through SCRIPTURE we see that YHWH is NO RESPECTER of persons. Y'SHUA did not respect anyone, (using current english understanding of "respect").. But Y'SHUA did show us what to do for those who curse us, who hurt us, and who steal from us. (just the opposite of what the world says to do)

Yes, that's one way of looking at TORAH. Others agree with this excerpt from the internet : Torah Level: Basic • Torah in the narrowest sense refers to the first five books of the Bible • In a broader sense, Torah includes all Jewish law and tradition • Torah was given to Moses in written form with oral commentary • The oral component is now written in the Talmud • There are additional important writings The word "Torah" is a tricky one, because it can mean different things in different contexts. In its most limited sense, "Torah" refers to the Five Books of Moses: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. But the word "torah" can also be used to refer to the entire Jewish bible (the body of scripture known to non-Jews as the Old Testament and to Jews as the Tanakh or Written Torah), or in its broadest sense, to the whole body of Jewish law and teachings.

Then, of course, and first, YHWH'S WORD says "love not the world, nor the things of the world.... .... .... cannot be a friend of God" ..... (repeated several times in various ways in many books in the BIBLE) .... .... not the ways of the world either..... PSALM 1

Well, most all the world/ flesh/ and carnal people think nothing of sinning, they (according to the BIBLE/REVELATION) rarely if ever repent. ("the whole world refuses to repent": Revelation). ) .... For a few, YHWH convicts them before or after thinking of sinning. If it is like a tattoo or piercing, they may have to bear it the rest of their life time on earth even if they repent truthfully. It may or may not carry over to the next life for those who are resurrected forgiven, not facing condemnation or eternal judgment. To see what the BIBLE says about sin and this stuff, read it. It is written simply and clear enough for a basic grade school education to understand. Even some people who cannot read nor write are given understanding (which is required just as it is written for all disciples of JESUS : " Then opened HE their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures," ).