George

Is the GREAT TRIBULATION also spiritual in your mind? SPIRITUAL TRIBULATION?

Any Bible verse that says that Satan HAS BEEN BOUND since the cross?

So in this context ... Christians have FULFILLED the promises given to the Jewish people? Is this your belief? Before I proceed, I certainly don't want to put words in your mouth. In your context of the Shepherd in Ezekiel 37 ... were Christians scattered and left for dead? Think about it! Were Christians suddenly a "nation" risen from the dead? Is it Christians on the "mountains of Israel" today? So of course the Lord is King and a Shepherd OVER ISRAEL and OVER the ENTIRE WORLD! That passage in Ezekiel 37 is specific to the Jewish people. Amazingly ... you just IGNORED dozens of Scriptures and MISSED A SIGN and a SIGNAL! Isa 11:11 In that day the Lord will extend his hand yet a second time to recover the remnant that remains of his people, from Assyria, from Egypt, from Pathros, from Cush, from Elam, from Shinar, from Hamath, and from the coastlands of the sea. Isa 11:12 He will raise a signal for the nations and will assemble the banished of Israel, and gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth. God PROCLAIMS the restoration of the Jewish people from the Arab lands and this is a SIGN! Mat 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree. When its branch is still tender and puts out leaves, you know that summer is near. Mat 24:33 So you, likewise, when you see all these things, shall know that it is near, at the doors. Learn this parable ... a FIG TREE a national symbol of Israel ... a tree that produces fruit 2 times a year ... showing a early and a latter harvest ... Can you figure out what that means in reference to the Jewish people? And the key of the parable ... this parable needed to be fulfilled as part of ALL OF THESE THINGS! By overlooking the prophetic significance of God’s plan for the Jewish people and neglecting the role one is meant to play in its fulfillment, one forfeits profound blessings and misses the very centerpiece of God's unfolding prophetic purpose. Charles Spurgeon said this in the 1800's before the nation was established ... “I think we do not attach enough importance to the restoration of the Jews. But certainly, if there is anything promised in the Bible it is this. The day shall yet come when the Jews, who were the first apostles to the Gentiles, the first missionaries to us who were afar off, shall be gathered in again. Until that shall be, the fullness of the church’s glory can never come. Matchless benefits to the world are bound up with the restoration of Israel, their gathering shall be as life from the dead." Until next time, George

So are the BEAST and the FALSE PROPHET already in the Lake of fire? Rev 20:10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. Rev 20:10 And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur, into which the beast and the false prophet had already been thrown. There they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. Rev 20:10 and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. The problem is that you are suggesting that Chapter 20:1-6 are not future, but NOW ... you are literally saying that SATAN is BOUND ... and YET He ROAMS about like a lion. Accusing the BRETHREN day and night ... plenty of passages that detail it. Are those passages spiritual as well? JUMPING through Gymnastics of Spiritualization to make a theology work ... probably means one should re-evaluate their theology.

Why would one "spiritualize" most of the Old Testament to fit a theology? When Israel ... is not "Israel" the Jewish people, but instead it's the Church when it's in reference to prophecy, then your theology probably needs to be adjusted. So when the Lord makes these bold proclamations, such as... Jer 33:20 "Thus says the LORD: 'If you can break My covenant with the day and My covenant with the night, so that there will not be day and night in their season, Jer 33:21 then My covenant may also be broken with David My servant, so that he shall not have a son to reign on his throne, and with the Levites, the priests, My ministers. Jer 33:22 As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, nor the sand of the sea measured, so will I multiply the descendants of David My servant and the Levites who minister to Me.' " Jer 33:23 Moreover the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah, saying, Jer 33:24 "Have you not considered what these people have spoken, saying, 'The two families which the LORD has chosen, He has also cast them off'? Thus they have despised My people, as if they should no more be a nation before them. Jer 33:25 "Thus says the LORD: 'If My covenant is not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth, Jer 33:26 then I will cast away the descendants of Jacob and David My servant, so that I will not take any of his descendants to be rulers over the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. For I will cause their captives to return, and will have mercy on them.' " Why not simply read it as it is? God makes a promise to the descendants of JACOB ... notice that He did not mention Abraham ... NOTICE that the Lord focuses on DAVID ... which is specific to the Tribe of Judah ... and read it literally? Again, if jumping through the "spiritualization" of hundreds of passages is the ONLY way you can make a theology work ... probably means the theology needs to be "rethought!" The NATION of ISRAEL ON A MAP TODAY ... means GOD ALLOWED IT! Now ask yourself WHY?

Physical Earthly Kingdom Ezekiel 37:21–28 “I will gather them from all around... and bring them back into their own land... My servant David will be king over them... and I will put my sanctuary among them forever.” Physical Earthly Throne Jer 3:16 "Then it shall come to pass, when you are multiplied and increased in the land in those days," says the LORD, "that they will say no more, 'The ark of the covenant of the LORD.' It shall not come to mind, nor shall they remember it, nor shall they visit it, nor shall it be made anymore. Jer 3:17 "At that time Jerusalem shall be called The Throne of the LORD, and all the nations shall be gathered to it, to the name of the LORD, to Jerusalem. No more shall they follow the dictates of their evil hearts. Zec 14:9 And the LORD shall be King over all the earth. In that day it shall be "The LORD is one," And His name one. Physical Mortal Humans Isa 65:20 "No more shall an infant from there live but a few days, Nor an old man who has not fulfilled his days; For the child shall die one hundred years old, But the sinner being one hundred years old shall be accursed. This can't be the new Jerusalem ... are there SINNERS in the New Jerusalem? Isa 65:21 They shall build houses and inhabit them; They shall plant vineyards and eat their fruit. Again a PHYSICAL presence building HOUSES and VINEYARDS ...

Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East—a nation where people are not executed simply for being infidels. 😊 That said, Israel’s early history includes a complex chapter involving ultra-Zionist groups who, driven by a fervent desire to liberate the land, carried out attacks that were widely condemned, even within Israel itself. These actions, seen as errors in judgment, are now taught in Israeli schools as lessons of error. Many of these early operations targeted British forces, whom the Zionists viewed as occupiers. At the time, the British Empire was restricting Jewish immigration to the land, just as Holocaust survivors were desperately seeking refuge and a place to rebuild their lives. This fueled tensions, as many Jews saw the British as obstructing their return to their ancestral homeland. The consequences of those actions and that era are still being reckoned with today. Probably the most famous was the British consulate bombing in 1947 or 1948 ... sometime in there ... at the King David Hotel. It was perhaps the final straw that caused Great Britain to leave the Holy Land, and within a few months, Israel proclaimed its independence. At that time, every Arab army came to annihilate the Jews as the final "death" blow to the Jewish people who just survived the Holocaust ... a nation without an army, without tanks, without planes ... defeated Arab armies fully equipped. It was a miracle ... just that in of itself should point to the hand of God at work!

This is far too deep for a post ... but those that persecuted us for sharing the gospel in Arad were part of a "priesthood" that is being erected to serve in the next Temple. There were kids raised whose feet never touched the ground so as to have never been defiled in our town. Those who adhere to this truly believe they are doing God's service, and sadly, they do not realize that by causing Israel to go astray, they will have to carry the shame of it for a 1000 years. I wish I could expound but simply I don't have time ... I suggest watching a video I did called 'Red Heifers, the Coming Temple, and the Great Delusion. ' https://worthy.tv/the-coming-temple-red-heifers-and-the-greatest-delusion-is-coming/

The so-called "lost tribes" were not truly lost—they were assimilated into the Jewish people. Scripture shows that after the division of the kingdom following Solomon’s reign, many from the northern tribes who rejected the false temple and priesthood chose to align themselves with Judah. That’s why, when James addresses his letter “to the twelve tribes scattered abroad,” it was understood he was writing to the broader Jewish community. The tribes weren’t lost—they had become part of Judah. I could show you many references ... but just one to clarify ... 2Ch 11:14 For the Levites left their common-lands and their possessions and came to Judah and Jerusalem, for Jeroboam and his sons had rejected them from serving as priests to the LORD. 2Ch 11:15 Then he appointed for himself priests for the high places, for the demons, and the calf idols which he had made. 2Ch 11:16 And after the Levites left, those from all the tribes of Israel, such as set their heart to seek the LORD God of Israel, came to Jerusalem to sacrifice to the LORD God of their fathers. 2Ch 11:17 So they strengthened the kingdom of Judah, and made Rehoboam the son of Solomon strong for three years, because they walked in the way of David and Solomon for three years. Be blessed, George

Of course ... BUT look how Prophecy is laid out concerning the restoration of Israel. Ezekiel 39 -- and the Lord's Return watch the events unfold ... 17 And, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD; Speak unto every feathered fowl, and to every beast of the field, Assemble yourselves, and come; gather yourselves on every side to my sacrifice that I do sacrifice for you, even a great sacrifice upon the mountains of Israel, that ye may eat flesh, and drink blood. 18 Ye shall eat the flesh of the mighty, and drink the blood of the princes of the earth, of rams, of lambs, and of goats, of bullocks, all of them fatlings of Bashan. 19 And ye shall eat fat till ye be full, and drink blood till ye be drunken, of my sacrifice which I have sacrificed for you. 20 Thus ye shall be filled at my table with horses and chariots, with mighty men, and with all men of war, saith the Lord GOD. A FEAST for the BIRDS ... where do we see this? Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. THE LORDS RETURN IS CONNECTED TO THE FEAST FOR THE BIRDS. Rev 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; 18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. 19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. 20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. 21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh. So go back to the Ezekiel passage about the birds and follow ... 21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them. The restoration of the Jewish people ... 22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward. 23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword. 24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them. 25 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name; 26 After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid. 27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations; 28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there. 29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD. The coming of the Lord, and the restoration of the Jewish people ... its all interconnected. So your statement about the "greatest story" is His return ... just understand what that all entails!

1 John 5:4 For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world–our faith. As we are entering some of the most turbulent times in history, we’ve been receiving an unbelievable amount of email expressing concern about the future. But I want to tell you a little something — the future is VICTORY! It’s not defeat or loss. If you think about it, all the great leaders of the Bible shone in the hardest of times. When the giant Goliath stood against the army of Israel, David didn’t sit around with his brothers complaining about how big Goliath was. Though David was a dwarf next to this evil giant, he was still convinced he was going to be victorious because God was on his side! When the apostles saw Yeshua die, they must have felt utterly defeated — then, suddenly, there he was, out from the grave, gloriously alive before them — and from then on they walked in His victory! They didn’t sit around complaining about Roman persecution, the Sanhedrin, or the Pharisees. They didn’t get wrapped up in how evil the world was becoming; instead, they pressed forward in the worst of times and in those dark days they shone like the stars in the midnight sky. In the face of everything that’s happening around us, let’s be sure we’re not developing a defeatist attitude. We are called children of the King, a royal priesthood, and a holy nation. Despite how bad things may be getting — don’t forget we’re on the winning team! We can stand against this evil and overcome it… with good! View the full article

And you have a point ... it's a "Babylonian" Judaism, and it seeks to upend everything. Despite all of this ... the crazy thing is ... even in their REJECTION of the Messiah, and their ACCEPTANCE of the anti-Messiah ... They will come to realize their error ... and RETURN to their MESSIAH! The question remains ... are you helping that prophetic reality helping in restoring them to their Messiah? The Jewish people are fighting a demonic kingdom that is trying to destroy them from WITHOUT and WITHIN ... both physically, and also spiritually! Through Islam and its teachings, the Jews are infidels and must be eradicated ... the forces in the physical. Along with this, the rise of antisemitism ... bringing forth a different set of prophecies. But also spiritually through their rejection of their Messiah because of their Rabbis. And despite all of this ... God will SURELY SAVE THEM ... and its through all of this ... that the ENTIRE world will TRULY KNOW GOD and HIS FAITHFULNESS! The story of the Jewish people, their rejection, their failures, will soon become the greatest story ever told, because of it will truly magnify the GOD we serve! :)

Did you notice what you quoted and highlighted ... HE THAT IS LEFT IN ZION and REMAINS IN JERUSALEM? Survivors, of which you quoted in Zechariah 14. Start in verse 2 of Isaiah 4 since you quoted 3-4 ... Isa 4:2 In that day the Branch of the LORD shall be beautiful and glorious; And the fruit of the earth shall be excellent and appealing For those of Israel who have escaped. FRUIT OF THE EARTH ... then don't stop at verse 4 go to verse 5 and 6 ... Isa 4:5 then the LORD will create above every dwelling place of Mount Zion, and above her assemblies, a cloud and smoke by day and the shining of a flaming fire by night. For over all the glory there will be a covering. Isa 4:6 And there will be a tabernacle for shade in the daytime from the heat, for a place of refuge, and for a shelter from storm and rain. Verse 6 clearly indicates that STORM and RAIN are still present is this really the "NEW JERUSALEM"? ... It’s referring to a physical restoration—a future time when the Lord will dwell in Zion, that is, Jerusalem on the earth, INSIDE the space of time, before the arrival of the New Jerusalem of the future OUTSIDE the SPACE OF TIME! Two different Jerusalems ... and a point of reference. "Yerushalayim" (יְרוּשָׁלַיִם) is the Hebrew name for Jerusalem. Interestingly, it appears in a plural form—the "-ayim" ending often suggests duality or plurality in Hebrew. Hence, the idea of a future earthly Jerusalem where peace is taught and nations learn not to war, then the eternal Jerusalem, where it replaces the earthly Jerusalem, when finally the SON delivers the Kingdom to His Father. Jerusalem is a hidden mystery from God. Its name comes from two powerful Hebrew words: “Yireh,” which means “God will see” or “God will provide,” and “Shalom,” which means “peace.” Put together, Jerusalem reflects the idea of a place where God brings peace and provides for His people. Right now ... we are in the midst, prophecially speaking of ... Zec 12:3 And it shall happen in that day that I will make Jerusalem a very heavy stone for all peoples; all who would heave it away will surely be cut in pieces, though all nations of the earth are gathered against it. Be blessed, George

Read Chapter 2 carefully ... Isa 2:2 Now it shall come to pass in the latter days That the mountain of the LORD's house Shall be established on the top of the mountains, And shall be exalted above the hills; And all nations shall flow to it. Isa 2:3 Many people shall come and say, "Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, To the house of the God of Jacob; He will teach us His ways, And we shall walk in His paths." For out of Zion shall go forth the law, And the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. Isa 2:4 He shall judge between the nations, And rebuke many people; They shall beat their swords into plowshares, And their spears into pruning hooks; Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, Neither shall they learn war anymore. How is this the "Day of the Lord"? and the beginning of the Eternal Kingdom? Have these things happened yet?

I'm not trying to change anyone's mind—just making space for the Holy Spirit to move and teach. I actually shared a devotional on this very topic earlier today. :) https://www.worthydevotions.com/christian-devotional/learn-how-to-teach