Galileo was wrong

[nebula]

Galileo was wrong for insulting the Pope in his presentation.

But his science wasn't wrong.

[ParanoidAndroid]

But his science wasn't wrong.

Suffice it to say that his science wasn't entirely correct either. There were many holes in Galileo's arguments. In postulating a Heliocentric world, he presumed that the planets would travel in circular orbits. However, today we know that planets travel in elliptical orbits. As a result, many of Galileo's calculations were flat out wrong (he predicted the movement of stars, and because of the mistake in the circular orbits, he could not accurately predict all them). They were more accurate than the geocentric views held by contemporaries of Galileo but it contained enough errors to be discredited and therefore dismissed by the powers of the day.

So Galileo was wrong. On some matters. But the general principles he suggested were spot-on correct. He could have also been a little less arrogant in his ridicule of the Church position (calling the geocentric scientist "simplicio" didn't really help) but that's not something one could point out as "wrong", it's more a character flaw that exacerbated the problem.

But if someone is trying to show that Galileo was wrong and that the sun really does revolve around the earth, I'm afraid there is no basis of truth there.

~ PA

[EricH]

But if someone is trying to show that Galileo was wrong and that the sun really does revolve around the earth, I'm afraid there is no basis of truth there.

~ PA

That is what the cited articles were trying to demonstrate

[jimc2]

But if someone is trying to show that Galileo was wrong and that the sun really does revolve around the earth, I'm afraid there is no basis of truth there.

~ PA

Have you read the book/s,before making such bold statements - write to the authors and fault the book/s - jimc

That is what the cited articles were trying to demonstrate

not just trying to but have perhaps,hence the shuffling of feet and the rattling of sabres and the lighting of faggots - jimc

[nebula]

But his science wasn't wrong.

Suffice it to say that his science wasn't entirely correct either. There were many holes in Galileo's arguments. In postulating a Heliocentric world, he presumed that the planets would travel in circular orbits....

I don't recall that aspect of his argument. But that is a good point to note.

Thank-you!

He could have also been a little less arrogant in his ridicule of the Church position (calling the geocentric scientist "simplicio" didn't really help) but that's not something one could point out as "wrong", it's more a character flaw that exacerbated the problem.

Actually, it was very wrong. You see, the Pope hadn't been pope for very long when he gave Galileo permission to write his book. But why did he give Galileo permission? Because the two of them were friends. But the Pope had one stipulation with the permission: make sure the Chruch's position is presented in the book as well. Now, to add to this background, the Pope was caught in the middle of a power struggle.

So imagine how badly it refelcted on the Pope when his friend produces a work that not only calls the man defending the Church's position "Simplicio," but also uses exact quotes the Pope gave - and this book had been written with the Pope's permission!

You see the problem here?

Basically, the Pope had to punish Galileo for both religious and political reasons.

[jimc2]

people in general tend to believe the wise men of the day,so it seems it was the wise men who got it wrong and spread it about that the world was flat.Nowhere or no how does an all knowing all seeing God via His word/s scriptures state that the earth is flat,in fact He clearly states it is round so how come you missed it - see science and geocentrism at - jimc

and nowhere or no how does an all knowing all seeing God via His word/s scriptures state that the earth is the center of the universe or that all things in the universe revolve around the earth.

yes He does,go see geocentrism at - jimc

[Ovedya]

people in general tend to believe the wise men of the day,so it seems it was the wise men who got it wrong and spread it about that the world was flat.Nowhere or no how does an all knowing all seeing God via His word/s scriptures state that the earth is flat,in fact He clearly states it is round so how come you missed it - see science and geocentrism at www.ScriptureCatholic.com - jimc

and nowhere or no how does an all knowing all seeing God via His word/s scriptures state that the earth is the center of the universe or that all things in the universe revolve around the earth.

yes He does,go see geocentrism at - jimc

Are you Catholic?

[Gauntlet]

I am Catholic, and I must say this "Galileo Was Wrong" stuff is a pantload.

The Vatican is behind the times and out of touch with reality. I suppose it also recommends bloodletting and trepanning over modern healthcare. In age of NASA, it's a little late to be reviving your geocentric model of the cosmos. Also, we can't un-discover the existence of bacteria or indoor plumbing or electricity.

[nebula]

and nowhere or no how does an all knowing all seeing God via His word/s scriptures state that the earth is the center of the universe or that all things in the universe revolve around the earth.

yes He does,go see geocentrism at - jimc

Scripture states that Heaven is God's throne and the earth is His footstool.

So you are claiming that God made His footstool the center of the universe?

[MorningGlory]

The link simply took me to a Roman online bookstore. I didn't look at it thoroughly, but I couldn't see anything about Galileo. Besides, if Galileo was wrong, then so was Copernicus, a brilliant Priest, who published the same ideas as Galileo more than a decade BEFORE Galileo, and was shortly thereafter completely ACCEPTED by the Roman church.

So, could you possibly provide a better link to whatever article or book you're talking about?

so what"s so smart about brilliant Priests - there were two of them that postulated a Big Bang that never was and there was another so accepted that was up to monkey hoax,fraud etc as I read it in Piltdown man and there was one who was regarded as brilliant by one half of Christianity but not by the other half so to speak etc,etc - jimc