O'bama's "Birth Certificate" NOT Acceptable in Hawai

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It's because believing Obama doesn't have a valid birth certificate is a characteristic of Violent Psychos. I am not by any means saying Mainstream Conservatives are Violent Psychos.

I've heard some Conservatives (you will probably know who you are after the quote) say that you can judge someone not by who their friends are, but by their enemies. Us liberals are vehemently against Nazi Scum shooting up Museums that have fringe conspiracy theories for beliefs.

On our side against those people?

Hey Ember -

Do you believe you can get any lower?

I was thinking of refuting you, but then I decided if you can't see how so wrong this response was, then you are too far gone to even bother trying to appeal to.

[MorningGlory]

Hey Ember -

Do you believe you can get any lower?

I was thinking of refuting you, but then I decided if you can't see how so wrong this response was, then you are too far gone to even bother trying to appeal to.

Not being American, B.E. simply doesn't understand the political and social dynamics of the U.S. He speaks only from his view of us.

[Guest yod]

Proverbs 26

4 Do not answer a fool according to his folly,

or you will be like him yourself.

5 Answer a fool according to his folly,

or he will be wise in his own eyes.

This verse can work both ways....

I think you're crazy for trusting government and media to act in accordance with the law. Obama doesn't think it applies to him so why would this case be any different?

If you think it's foolish to require our President to adhere to the laws of the land, then don't get in a debate with those who do

[MorningGlory]

Proverbs 26

4 Do not answer a fool according to his folly,

or you will be like him yourself.

5 Answer a fool according to his folly,

or he will be wise in his own eyes.

This verse can work both ways....

I think you're crazy for trusting government and media to act in accordance with the law. Obama doesn't think it applies to him so why would this case be any different?

If you think it's foolish to require our President to adhere to the laws of the land, then don't get in a debate with those who do

I don't think he's trusting government or the law; at least not of the U.S. He doesn't live here.

[Guest yod]

Proverbs 26

4 Do not answer a fool according to his folly,

or you will be like him yourself.

5 Answer a fool according to his folly,

or he will be wise in his own eyes.

This verse can work both ways....

I think you're crazy for trusting government and media to act in accordance with the law. Obama doesn't think it applies to him so why would this case be any different?

If you think it's foolish to require our President to adhere to the laws of the land, then don't get in a debate with those who do

I don't think he's trusting government or the law; at least not of the U.S. He doesn't live here.

Then he shouldn't make ignorant statements like this one;

Which is why court cases brought up about this, were in fact, *thrown out* of court. Because there is no proof.

no, the various cases have been thrown out on technical grounds for dubious reasons by mostly political appointees. The first case claimed Berg didn't have legal standing to bring the case to court. That is a bad interpretation of the law since we ALL have legal standing when it comes to the President of our nation. It's too complicated to explain to people who want a soundbyte answer. They don't care anyway. The law doesn't matter to Democrats.

But those verses and statement was for anyone on whom the shoe fits.

I realize that most think that its unreasonable to ask someone seeking the most powerful job in the world if he can prove he's qualified. That's the real problem, imo. It doesn't matter to enough people

I ran this thing down as far as the State of Hawaii. They were giving out COLB like candy to foreign babies at the time Obama was born and it seems like I remember their website sayiing that a COLB is all they send out so I can't blame Obama though it is quite convenient, eh?

So I also agree with Ovedya that this issue is dead and going nowhere. We asked for a king like all the nations and that is what we've got.

[irishcowboy]

The fact he doesn't continues to make it appear the stories of his birth in Kenya are true.

Until you, or someone else comes up with Obama's *Kenyan* Birth Certificate inscribed on the back of a Turtle Shell in a nature preserve, or something, there is no proof Obama was born in Kenya, there is only hearsay and conjecture, none of which would ever be admissible in court. Which is why court cases brought up about this, were in fact, *thrown out* of court. Because there is no proof.

The reason I brought up before why the Nazi who shot up the Holocaust Museum isn't because being a violent psycho is a characteristic of people believing Obama doesn't have a real birth Certificate. It's because believing Obama doesn't have a valid birth certificate is a characteristic of Violent Psychos. I am not by any means saying Mainstream Conservatives are Violent Psychos.

I've heard some Conservatives (you will probably know who you are after the quote) say that you can judge someone not by who their friends are, but by their enemies. Us liberals are vehemently against Nazi Scum shooting up Museums that have fringe conspiracy theories for beliefs.

On our side against those people?

I, personally, do not believe what I have seen (a couple different ones, neither one match the other) are true certificates, one I saw the file days was a few years later, the other was only a short time ( a couple months for the file date )

I know that there are ancestors of mine that did not have b.c., but have been listed, and I can trace the main line of my family all the way to the middle of the 300's.... there is some area's of speculation on some of the branch lines.... such as there were three women, with the same first and last names in the same area during the same time frame, one of them is one of my ancestors, not sure which one, and one of them is decendent of a famous Native American known in Jamestown.... I think it is cool, yet, unprovable with out a birth certificate naming the mother and father to prove which lady is the one that belongs to my line.

I have ancestors that have been in this country for many generations, and others well, on line I am only the third generation.

Birth Certificates are very important to proving a good number of things, but there are other ways to get the information, and that could even be through the 10 years census.... however, parts of the census are held in confidence for a number of decades to keep personal information guarded......

with this day and age, it would not be a good thing for a B.C. to be displayed for public viewing, with idendity theft and all...

mik

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[BlindSeeker]

The fact he doesn't continues to make it appear the stories of his birth in Kenya are true.

Until you, or someone else comes up with Obama's *Kenyan* Birth Certificate inscribed on the back of a Turtle Shell in a nature preserve, or something, there is no proof Obama was born in Kenya, there is only hearsay and conjecture, none of which would ever be admissible in court. Which is why court cases brought up about this, were in fact, *thrown out* of court. Because there is no proof.

The reason I brought up before why the Nazi who shot up the Holocaust Museum isn't because being a violent psycho is a characteristic of people believing Obama doesn't have a real birth Certificate. It's because believing Obama doesn't have a valid birth certificate is a characteristic of Violent Psychos. I am not by any means saying Mainstream Conservatives are Violent Psychos.

I've heard some Conservatives (you will probably know who you are after the quote) say that you can judge someone not by who their friends are, but by their enemies. Us liberals are vehemently against Nazi Scum shooting up Museums that have fringe conspiracy theories for beliefs.

On our side against those people?

The point is that Obama could end this controversy by producing a valid birth certificate, but he refuses to do so. If he has nothing to hide, then he should be forthcoming. He is responsible for the controversy continuing.

As far as the rest of your post goes, it has nothing to do with the topic at hand, and isn't even true. Some liberals are anti-Semites who are likely happy about what happened at this museum, and some so-called conservatives likely applauded it too. Some liberals are outraged over what happend as are most conservatives. I don't know of any conservatives here that would support what happened at the Holocaust Museum as for the most part, we consider the Jewish people God's chosen people and love Israel. I find that entire line of reasoning bazaar to say the least.

Not only does he refuse to end the controversy, he is actively opposing it using the legal system to conceal whatever.

Again, why is it people want to say that if we have nothing to hide, then why can't the government know things about us? Because the government is supposed to work for us . . . We the People.

The 10th commandment gives me a God given right to privacy and private property . . . both of which government is steadily taking away.

Obama isn't a private citizen . . . he is an elected official who has yet to satisfy many legal inquiries about his "legal qualifications" to the office he holds.

Nonetheless, morally and experientially he isn't qualified either . . . still he is God's man for the job or he wouldn't be there. His election alone is a witness against the American people as a whole. God gives the people the leader they deserve . . . .

[Believer1997]

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Should Christians in Iran be submissive to their leaders?