Harming Animals

[Massorite]

I came across an horrific report of teenagers in England (on the Sky News website), shooting a cat over 50 times with an airgun. It survived. But it raised the question in me, is harming animals a sin, because this leads on to harming the environment, both of which are God's creation.

I would hazard that it is a sin, but can't think offhand of any scriptures that might directly relate.

Any ideas?

We are given dominion over all of the animals of the earth. But to be cruel too or to torment or to torture an animal for the sack of doing it is a sin I believe because it is a creation of the living God and a rebellion against the art work of God. We are to use the animals that God gave us as we see fit but with a certain moral obligation/responsibility attached to that God given authority.

[Massorite]

I came across an horrific report of teenagers in England (on the Sky News website), shooting a cat over 50 times with an airgun. It survived. But it raised the question in me, is harming animals a sin, because this leads on to harming the environment, both of which are God's creation.

I would hazard that it is a sin, but can't think offhand of any scriptures that might directly relate.

Any ideas?

We are given dominion over all of the animals of the earth. But to be cruel too or to torment or to torture an animal for the sack of doing it is a sin I believe because it is a creation of the living God and a rebellion against the art work of God. We are to use the animals that God gave us as we see fit but with a certain moral obligation/responsibility attached to that God given authority.

thank you massorite i appreciate it so much

You are very welcome.

[Axxman]

I came across (a bunch of posts) an horrific report of (Worthy members) teenagers in England (on the Sky News website), (on Worthy) shooting a cat over 50 times with an airgun (beating each up over 20 times using a keyboard and mouse). It (they) survived. But it raised the question in me, is (beating each other up verbally) harming animals a sin, because this leads on to harming (the Kingdom) the environment, both of which are God's creation.

I would hazard that it is a sin, but can't think offhand of any scriptures that might directly relate.

Any ideas ?

Now that IS funny!!

I digress....

[nebula]

I came across (a bunch of posts) an horrific report of (Worthy members) teenagers in England (on the Sky News website), (on Worthy) shooting a cat over 50 times with an airgun (beating each up over 20 times using a keyboard and mouse). It (they) survived. But it raised the question in me, is (beating each other up verbally) harming animals a sin, because this leads on to harming (the Kingdom) the environment, both of which are God's creation.

I would hazard that it is a sin, but can't think offhand of any scriptures that might directly relate.

Any ideas ?

Good observation . . . and very creative.

[south]

I came across (a bunch of posts) an horrific report of (Worthy members) teenagers in England (on the Sky News website), (on Worthy) shooting a cat over 50 times with an airgun (beating each up over 20 times using a keyboard and mouse). It (they) survived. But it raised the question in me, is (beating each other up verbally) harming animals a sin, because this leads on to harming (the Kingdom) the environment, both of which are God's creation.

I would hazard that it is a sin, but can't think offhand of any scriptures that might directly relate.

Any ideas ?

Very true...

South

[Guest shiloh357]

No one is getting "beat up." Some of us are simply more "honest" and straightforward and unambiguous.

[Guest shiloh357]

No one is getting "beat up." Some of us are simply more "honest" and straightforward and unambiguous.

making derogatory comments about a person and their intellectual abiblity, based on one's opinion regarding what that person has said, does not neccesarily equate to "honesty." It is possible to make a point without resorting to attacks on the person. If not, maybe the point isn't really worth making.

and it is very possible to "beat up" someone with only words.

I did not say anything about anyone's intellectual ability. What I attacked was presumptuous methodology and the refusal to address the actual subject under construction. My postion was misrepresented and my views had false values assigned to them and I called Axxman on all of those. I did not say anything about Axxman's intelligence.

[Guest shiloh357]

No one is getting "beat up." Some of us are simply more "honest" and straightforward and unambiguous.

making derogatory comments about a person and their intellectual abiblity, based on one's opinion regarding what that person has said, does not neccesarily equate to "honesty." It is possible to make a point without resorting to attacks on the person. If not, maybe the point isn't really worth making.

and it is very possible to "beat up" someone with only words.

I did not say anything about anyone's intellectual ability. What I attacked was presumptuous methodology and the refusal to address the actual subject under construction. My postion was misrepresented and my views had false values assigned to them and I called Axxman on all of those. I did not say anything about Axxman's intelligence.

I haven't been following this thread, but I do have a question. Why did you think Charitow was talking about you Shiloh?

Because of the conflict between Axxman and I.

[Axxman]

I did not say anything about anyone's intellectual ability... I did not say anything about Axxman's intelligence... No one is getting "beat up."

really?!?!

"Try using employing some better reading comprehension skills"

You always attack people that question you...its how you operate.

"poor comprehension skills on your part"

You use inflammatory a language to try and bully people.

"a load of presumptuous crap."

You are the arbiter of truth and anyone who crosses you is a liar.

"Some of us are simply more "honest" and straightforward"

You belittle and mock in a way that I'm sure you find glorying to your God.

"You want some cheese with that whine?"

But hey, I'm sure I deserved it because to you I am just a dishonest hack...and your comments simply reflect a level of....well, how exactly did you put it???

"They simply reflect a level honesty you can't bring yourself to face up to."

[Axxman]

Hears in the background chants of "Jerry", "Jerry".

Saints, there was a topic posted a few days ago called..."Do we say it enough". I think it would fair well if some read it.

I have read it...does that mean I can't point out the repeated attacks? I have the ability to accept disagreement...bullying...not so much. He gets to deny everything...and you tell him to "carry on"..as if everything is okie-dokie. Well...for me...its not okay.