Limitations of Satan's Power and Authority

[CRAZY_4_JESUS]

For someone who has such limited power. he sure is doing a great job of wrecking this world. Its us who give him the power and authority, when we listen to and do the things he asks, evrything from lust, hate , jealousy, unfogiveness, drugs,, alchohol abuse, power, greed, ye , he is not as limited as you think.

In Hos Love

Very well said. I cant agree more. I'm a youth leader in my church, and sometimes guys come to me and say " dude it was satan, not me!". My reply is always " well dude... satan didn't do nothing, he just knocked on ur door. YOU opened it!" But i just slightly disagree with " He's not as limited as you think". See, satan has power its true, but from my personal experiance he can only work freely amongst unbelivers because they dont have the mark of the blood on their hearts to stop his entry. Among Christians the most powerful thing satan can do is simply knock. Then it is we who decide to open the door to him and he comes. Again this leads us back to ur first statement which is very very true.

God bless

mike

[Massorite]

For someone who has such limited power. he sure is doing a great job of wrecking this world. Its us who give him the power and authority, when we listen to and do the things he asks, everything from lust, hate , jealousy, forgiveness, drugs,, alcohol abuse, power, greed, ye , he is not as limited as you think.

In Hos Love

Very well said. I cant agree more. I'm a youth leader in my church, and sometimes guys come to me and say " dude it was satan, not me!". My reply is always " well dude... satan didn't do nothing, he just knocked on ur door. YOU opened it!" But i just slightly disagree with " He's not as limited as you think". See, satan has power its true, but from my personal experience he can only work freely amongst unbelievers because they don't have the mark of the blood on their hearts to stop his entry. Among Christians the most powerful thing satan can do is simply knock. Then it is we who decide to open the door to him and he comes. Again this leads us back to ur first statement which is very very true.

God bless

mike

I agree that satan has power and it is power that God gives or gave to him. But it is not as much as you say Crazy. Who spreads the aids from one to another? Man does and not God or satan. It is always man's decision to commit sin and aids is a side bar or result of the choices men make. Who starts wars? Men do and not God or satan Who murders? Who steals? Who abuses drugs? Men choose to do so and not God or satan.

So what does satan have power to do and how does he use his abilities.

According to the bible satan is a lier, a tempter, a possessor of men's minds and bodies, he has an army of fallen angels who are know demons, he is a tormentor of the minds of men and a manipulate. He also uses evil or prideful thinking men to destroy other men and more. But how is it that he can do these things to men? Because men have a sinful nature and are evil thinking without Christ. Even if they don't do evil or sinful things they still think like a prideful, selfish person and they spend time looking for ways to justify the way they think. But the bible also has three examples of satan asking God for permission to go after someone or volunteering to go after someone. How do you think all of this sin got started? Satan didn't start it. Adam did when he choose to disobey the commandment of God. Was satan involved with that fall from grace? Yes but only as a tempter and a manipulate. He didn't force anybody to do anything and he doesn't have the power to do so. Even when he comes out as antichrist he will not be able to force anyone to do anything. But will he be able to manipulate men into forcing other men into doing what they want? Yes but only if they are weak in the Lord. Men will be able to force other men into jail but they will never be able to force them to commit to the antichrist if they are Strong in the Lord. His powers are all spiritual and not physical. He can posses a man but not unless that man already has the mind set to be possessed and permission from God. There is not one single scripture where satan has the power to actually physically killed someone. He does come to kill but by other men and not himself.

As for where satan works both of you guys got it wrong. Satan does not work on they stone cold sinners of the world because he already has them in the palm of his hand and why should he waste his time on that which he already has? No Sir he wants that which he does not have in the palm of his hand. He works overtime in the churches of the world. He works to let the gay agenda into the churches. He works to change how we perceive Christ. He works to bring false doctrine and beliefs into the body of Christ. He wants to destroy the body of Christ down to nothing. We are what is standing in his way. We are stopping him from fulfilling his dream which is dominance of that which his God created so he can claim to be the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

[jesussaves]

Ephesians 6: 11 -13

Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Wherefore take up the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and, having done all, to stand.

He tries to destroy the Christians faith.

For a deeper knowledge of this do an in depth study of Ephesians 6

[other one]

-Jesus came to destroy satins works ...................Heb 2:14, 1John 3:8

-His temptations of Jesus were ineffective ............Luke 4:13

-Satin has no power over Jesus ..........................John 14:30

-Jesus cast out evil spirits .................................Luke 11:20,13:32

-Disciples empowered to cast out demons ..........mt 10:1 ,Mark 16:17

-Greater is Jesus in us then Satin in the world .......1John 4:4

-He needs Gods permission to try .........................Job 1:9-12

-His demons needed permission to enter the pigs ......mt 8:30-32

-stripped of power through the cross .......................Col 2:15

I agree with you mate.

The only power satan has over a child of God's is what we give him or what we let him have for Jesus Christ,

"spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it." (Colossians 2:15).

Haz.

Spiritually I would agree, but physically, he can talk your neighbor into coming over to your house and beat you up.

Bad things happen to Christians every day...... even death at the hands of others. Satan can not touch you spiritually.

Physically well we'll have to wait till the seventh angle sounds before that happens:

Rev 11:15

15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there arose loud voices in heaven, saying,

"The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord, and of His Christ;

NASB

[other one]

I agree. There are some verses showing that demons needed permission to 'enter' their victim, but Satan (or dark forces) have way too much power in this world.We are only deluding ourselves if we think that Satan does not have a very powerful foothold.

Remember how Jesus was tempted in the desert, and Satan said that if Christ bowed to him, then he (Satan) would give Christ control over all the cities he could see? Satan couldn't do this if it didn't belong to him in some sense?

Here is some evidence (In my humble opinion) of Satan's control and influence

1) Disease

2) Evolution: Genetic diseases, imperfect bodies, lust

3) War (way too many examples to mention here!)

4) Ignorance: the biological (human) brain has many limitations, easily confused, and diseased.

5) The fact that no human political system has produced desired results (Communism, Capitalism, etc. all have a lot of problems)

6) Natural disasters that we have no control over

If God were in control (in this world), I imagine that these things wouldn't exist.

If that's true, then God lost control of this world when Adam ate the fruit.

Think about it. All those things you mentioned have been a part of this world since Adam was kicked out of the Garden.

You are right, God lost this world when Adam ate the fruit. It's called free will, and as long as we have free will here Satan will have control of what happens here through unbelievers and those who sell out to him.

Jesus is not the only human that Satan took up on that mountain and promiced things...... he is just one of the few who said "no".

When the seventh angel blows, Jesus will exercise his authority on planet earth and then and only then will Satan loose his power here.

Is God soverign.... you bet he is, but he has not as of yet exercised that authority on planet earth except on the spiritual realm.

He can try and confuse you in spiritual matters but he can not force anything on you, nor can a demon posess you though I know from personal experience they can oppress you and if you don't know the word inside out and you deal with them on that spiritual level they can confuse you. But no one can take you from the hand of the Father spiritually.

[OneLight]

I agree. There are some verses showing that demons needed permission to 'enter' their victim, but Satan (or dark forces) have way too much power in this world.We are only deluding ourselves if we think that Satan does not have a very powerful foothold.

Remember how Jesus was tempted in the desert, and Satan said that if Christ bowed to him, then he (Satan) would give Christ control over all the cities he could see? Satan couldn't do this if it didn't belong to him in some sense?

Here is some evidence (In my humble opinion) of Satan's control and influence

1) Disease

2) Evolution: Genetic diseases, imperfect bodies, lust

3) War (way too many examples to mention here!)

4) Ignorance: the biological (human) brain has many limitations, easily confused, and diseased.

5) The fact that no human political system has produced desired results (Communism, Capitalism, etc. all have a lot of problems)

6) Natural disasters that we have no control over

If God were in control (in this world), I imagine that these things wouldn't exist.

If that's true, then God lost control of this world when Adam ate the fruit.

Think about it. All those things you mentioned have been a part of this world since Adam was kicked out of the Garden.

You are right, God lost this world when Adam ate the fruit. It's called free will, and as long as we have free will here Satan will have control of what happens here through unbelievers and those who sell out to him.

Jesus is not the only human that Satan took up on that mountain and promiced things...... he is just one of the few who said "no".

When the seventh angel blows, Jesus will exercise his authority on planet earth and then and only then will Satan loose his power here.

Is God soverign.... you bet he is, but he has not as of yet exercised that authority on planet earth except on the spiritual realm.

He can try and confuse you in spiritual matters but he can not force anything on you, nor can a demon posess you though I know from personal experience they can oppress you and if you don't know the word inside out and you deal with them on that spiritual level they can confuse you. But no one can take you from the hand of the Father spiritually.

God did not loose anything. He gave us free will and knew from the very beginning what would happen. The problem is, we don't understand His ways, even though we think we do. His plan is perfect, even if we don't really have a clue.

[other one]

I agree. There are some verses showing that demons needed permission to 'enter' their victim, but Satan (or dark forces) have way too much power in this world.We are only deluding ourselves if we think that Satan does not have a very powerful foothold.

Remember how Jesus was tempted in the desert, and Satan said that if Christ bowed to him, then he (Satan) would give Christ control over all the cities he could see? Satan couldn't do this if it didn't belong to him in some sense?

Here is some evidence (In my humble opinion) of Satan's control and influence

1) Disease

2) Evolution: Genetic diseases, imperfect bodies, lust

3) War (way too many examples to mention here!)

4) Ignorance: the biological (human) brain has many limitations, easily confused, and diseased.

5) The fact that no human political system has produced desired results (Communism, Capitalism, etc. all have a lot of problems)

6) Natural disasters that we have no control over

If God were in control (in this world), I imagine that these things wouldn't exist.

If that's true, then God lost control of this world when Adam ate the fruit.

Think about it. All those things you mentioned have been a part of this world since Adam was kicked out of the Garden.

You are right, God lost this world when Adam ate the fruit. It's called free will, and as long as we have free will here Satan will have control of what happens here through unbelievers and those who sell out to him.

Jesus is not the only human that Satan took up on that mountain and promiced things...... he is just one of the few who said "no".

When the seventh angel blows, Jesus will exercise his authority on planet earth and then and only then will Satan loose his power here.

Is God soverign.... you bet he is, but he has not as of yet exercised that authority on planet earth except on the spiritual realm.

He can try and confuse you in spiritual matters but he can not force anything on you, nor can a demon posess you though I know from personal experience they can oppress you and if you don't know the word inside out and you deal with them on that spiritual level they can confuse you. But no one can take you from the hand of the Father spiritually.

God did not loose anything. He gave us free will and knew from the very beginning what would happen. The problem is, we don't understand His ways, even though we think we do. His plan is perfect, even if we don't really have a clue.

So, you're telling me that God is responsible for the six million Jews that Hitler had killed and 7 or 8 million others he considered substandard genetically, or the 80 million that the Russians killed or starved to death after the Bolshevik Revolution or the 100 million or so that Mao killed to gain power over the rest....... how about all the people in Somali or rawanda....... how about those 26 kids that were just squished like bugs in the Federal Building bombing in Oklahoma City that he overtly kept me from going to..... or any other number of evil things going on throughout history..... You'd place all that at the feet of God.

When God gave us free will he gave us control of whatever we wished to do on this planet. In Noah's day we had gotten to the point of killing nearly everyone, but they still had free will until the end.....

I just can't agree with you here.... God isn't responsible for all that, we are as long as he allows us to have free will.

[OneLight]

I agree. There are some verses showing that demons needed permission to 'enter' their victim, but Satan (or dark forces) have way too much power in this world.We are only deluding ourselves if we think that Satan does not have a very powerful foothold.

Remember how Jesus was tempted in the desert, and Satan said that if Christ bowed to him, then he (Satan) would give Christ control over all the cities he could see? Satan couldn't do this if it didn't belong to him in some sense?

Here is some evidence (In my humble opinion) of Satan's control and influence

1) Disease

2) Evolution: Genetic diseases, imperfect bodies, lust

3) War (way too many examples to mention here!)

4) Ignorance: the biological (human) brain has many limitations, easily confused, and diseased.

5) The fact that no human political system has produced desired results (Communism, Capitalism, etc. all have a lot of problems)

6) Natural disasters that we have no control over

If God were in control (in this world), I imagine that these things wouldn't exist.

If that's true, then God lost control of this world when Adam ate the fruit.

Think about it. All those things you mentioned have been a part of this world since Adam was kicked out of the Garden.

You are right, God lost this world when Adam ate the fruit. It's called free will, and as long as we have free will here Satan will have control of what happens here through unbelievers and those who sell out to him.

Jesus is not the only human that Satan took up on that mountain and promiced things...... he is just one of the few who said "no".

When the seventh angel blows, Jesus will exercise his authority on planet earth and then and only then will Satan loose his power here.

Is God soverign.... you bet he is, but he has not as of yet exercised that authority on planet earth except on the spiritual realm.

He can try and confuse you in spiritual matters but he can not force anything on you, nor can a demon posess you though I know from personal experience they can oppress you and if you don't know the word inside out and you deal with them on that spiritual level they can confuse you. But no one can take you from the hand of the Father spiritually.

God did not loose anything. He gave us free will and knew from the very beginning what would happen. The problem is, we don't understand His ways, even though we think we do. His plan is perfect, even if we don't really have a clue.

So, you're telling me that God is responsible for the six million Jews that Hitler had killed and 7 or 8 million others he considered substandard genetically, or the 80 million that the Russians killed or starved to death after the Bolshevik Revolution or the 100 million or so that Mao killed to gain power over the rest....... how about all the people in Somali or rawanda....... how about those 26 kids that were just squished like bugs in the Federal Building bombing in Oklahoma City that he overtly kept me from going to..... or any other number of evil things going on throughout history..... You'd place all that at the feet of God.

When God gave us free will he gave us control of whatever we wished to do on this planet. In Noah's day we had gotten to the point of killing nearly everyone, but they still had free will until the end.....

I just can't agree with you here.... God isn't responsible for all that, we are as long as he allows us to have free will.

Where did you get that from what I posted???

God gave us free will. We are not puppets nor machines. We are responsible for what we do, not God. God does, however, know how it will all end. His plan is perfect. If you can't see the difference, then you don't have a real grasp of the majesty of God.

[mjrhealth]

Overall satans power is limited by God, but on this earth he is limted to what we allow him. Ie he became the god of this world when Adam and Eve fell, he became god because we allowed it. What he does with us depend on what we believe. its a bit like people who get symptoms, so they look all over for a disease that matchs it then say thats what i have, and even the doctors cant convince them otherwise, some people even convince them selves they are dying and so by believing they will they do. That is why satan works in our thoughts. what we believe is what comes to pass. It is because people cant see how devious he is and becuse they all think they are smarter then him that he wins over and over. he deceives me and still does, that is why i have to hangon to Jesus with all I have so He can show me the deception.

In His LOve

[leoxiii]

Does anyone know the difference between God's passive will and God's positive will?

God is always in control.

Otherwise, Satan could snatch you out of His hand.