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Are our National leaders truly against America and our Freedom? Wondering your Opinions Please Research and watch video. I am not posting this as truth but rather a sincere quest to understand the truth, please pray for discernment and post replies. Thanks

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i watched this entire video some time back. promise to get out of iraq? not happening. the transparency issue on legislation so that everyone can see them on the internet before they get passed? didn't happen. even congress doesn't have time to read the bills.

the fema camp thing? i can't see it happening. there was a thing about lots of extra coffins being readied in several national cemeteries - i don't remember if that was in the movie or not, but if a lot of deaths were expected, wouldn't it make more sense to use cremation? so i don't think that makes sense.

the national service issue was raised while obama was campaigning. i don't like it, but it's gonna happen. bush had a similar idea that he brought up in a state of the union address in either 2006 or 2007.

so i guess the bottom line, according to what my research shows so far, is that some of it is true and some is just speculation.

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Are our National leaders truly against America and our Freedom? Wondering your Opinions Please Research and watch video. I am not posting this as truth but rather a sincere quest to understand the truth, please pray for discernment and post replies. Thanks

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i watched this entire video some time back. promise to get out of iraq? not happening. the transparency issue on legislation so that everyone can see them on the internet before they get passed? didn't happen. even congress doesn't have time to read the bills.

the fema camp thing? i can't see it happening. there was a thing about lots of extra coffins being readied in several national cemeteries - i don't remember if that was in the movie or not, but if a lot of deaths were expected, wouldn't it make more sense to use cremation? so i don't think that makes sense.

the national service issue was raised while obama was campaigning. i don't like it, but it's gonna happen. bush had a similar idea that he brought up in a state of the union address in either 2006 or 2007.

so i guess the bottom line, according to what my research shows so far, is that some of it is true and some is just speculation.

but most likely "speculation" waiting to be proven true . . . .


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As a liberal christian that used to be a conservative christian, I understand why many of you think this. I understand where all this paranioa and fear is coming from. But, we are not in the "end days" as you all put it. I gurantee you, our great-grandchildren will learn about how Obama was an adaquate president, no better or worse than those that came before or after. Obama will spend no more money than Bush, and no one was complaining when Bush spent 6 trillion during his term. The world has been in a constant state of abhorrance, hatred, war, violence, genocide... etc, since the dawn of civilization. The only difference is, we have 24 hour cable news networks, like FOX or MSNBC, that emmit FEAR into the public. As a liberal, I cannot STAND, MSNBC because they are passionate about subjects, and ommit information that hurts their ideals. FOX does exactly the same thing, just for conservatives. "Fair and Balanced," "The place the for politics," these are not true. Today, for example, Sarah Palin will resign in three weeks. On MSNBC, they talked about how Sarah Palin did not serve her full term and was unfaithful to the people that voted for her. On FOX, they talked about how she was speaking from the heart, and it would not affect her run for 2012. Same exact story, one presented in a biased way against her , one biased for her. They are simply trying to shove their political beliefs into you. These networks try to make up your mind about everything. If you agree with everything that FOX or MSNBC says, check yourself. I challenge you, just for one month, only get your news from local cable networks. Local networks are not nearly as biased as 24hour ones. After that month, you will have little, if any paranoia towards Obama. (The reason the "end days" aren't here, is because of the UNIVERSE. It is 13.7 billion light years across. Don't your think we have some purpose exploring this? Don't you think that it will take thousands of years to adaquatley do this?)

With love,

The only liberal in Kansas.

you're raising a lot of questions, particularly with that last statement? are you referring to God's words at the tower of babel. He did say "nothing will be impossible for them".

also: do you hold to the possibility that, since we were given 'knowledge' at the garden of eden, we are supposed to learn all there is to know about the universe we live in? i ask because i've thought about this also.


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(The reason the "end days" aren't here, is because of the UNIVERSE. It is 13.7 billion light years across. Don't your think we have some purpose exploring this? Don't you think that it will take thousands of years to adaquatley do this?)

Problem is, man wasn't created to be an explorer of God's creation, but rather a servant of the Creator.

God does have a time line for mortal man, but those who will be clothe with immortality will have all eternity to experience the infinite wonders of God and His creation.

Sorry, but these really are the end times . . .


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Um well my mom told me that The antichrist ((she ha da scripture to prove it but i dont rememebr it)) Does in facyt believe in God. And people told me that Obama is NOT the antichrist cause he is MUSLIM. But then i saw that video.

It scarred me to know i was fooled so easily. I PERSONNALLy think though im not saying he ois for that is god and gods knowledge alone who it reall=ys is.

I think Obama might be the antichrist

Wolrd Order? I remember reading in the bible in revelations ((one of my FAVORIT chaoters to study)) Thta the Antichrist would control the whole world. Before Jesus came back. Isnt that what Obama wants?

If he might be the antichrist, i was easily fooled. I admit, i liked him at first. Which only made me scarred. I dont want to be fooled like that.

And i have heard people speaking of rumors that there are already plans for a new jeruselem temple. Which when its finished, the antichrist will sit upon the throne and declare himself god.

It all scares me so very very much.


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Relax Amanda, you are listening to a bunch of voices over the internet :laugh: These are just people opinions, and the real place you should be concentrating your effort is your love of Jesus. Just walk His walk, love Him, and don't worry about what some people have an opinion about. They are free to express it, of course, as are you. But only God knows the appointed time, not us.

Mat 6:33 But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.

Mat 6:34 "Therefore do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.

He wants you to enjoy life! Not to worry about what is to come! It's coming, nothing we can do about it, so why worry?

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Thanks Amanda for giving Fez and me something to agree on!

Scenarios change with the date of a newspaper, my sister. Don't put any faith (stong trust) in them.

Put your faith (strong trust) in Yeshua and you can't go wrong. He will always be true even when every scenario is wrong. We can trust Him to be good so let not your heart be troubled. He has overcome the world!

Joshua 1:9 Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be terrified; do not be discouraged, for the LORD your God will be with you wherever you go."

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Are our National leaders truly against America and our Freedom? Wondering your Opinions Please Research and watch video. I am not posting this as truth but rather a sincere quest to understand the truth, please pray for discernment and post replies. Thanks

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God has put him in office for his own reasons, we can't understand but thats the truth, God said he puts up kings, i do'nt think this is a very good topic because it's ungodly to go against your leader which obama is owr leader.

Even if he's not a saved man we still have to obey the rules of the land, danial is a good example of how a saved person sould live and serve his government or boss, because he was a servent and he served his king.


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Guys, guys, guys. The whole FEMA camp thing started with some guy named William Pabst who wrote a booklet which was picked up during the Reagan years by a group called SPIRAL (Society for the Protection of Individual Rights And Liberties). I still have an original copy. It was full of the very same grainy photos which are still bandied about here on the Internet almost 30 years later. It's bull. None of it has EVER happened, none of it ever WILL happen.

As Gog and Magog gets closer to their stated goal of destroying the Holy City (the Church), those nations which formerly espoused Christian principles will continue to apostasize and see the resulting loss of freedoms. Gog and Magog will never achieve their stated goal, because Christ will come and destroy them instead. Don't get caught up in every pre-millennialist fairy tale of multiple comings and over-literalized (and already past in many cases) events from the Revelation.

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