Just an idea!!!

[pokemaughan]

I love it, you take a statement out of context, portray it as if I do not understand prayer, let someone else answer for you and you act like you won some sort of prize.

Did you even actually read the original post, understand it at all??

Sheesh

I'm sure you understand prayer, brother, it just appeared to me from what you said that prayer had no business in a certain part of thought or a certain part of life- which I understand to be wrong. I'm sorry if I read that wrong.

[GerdaHannah]

hi,

I didn't equate a psychological principle and prayer. The psychological principle came next. It was 'when we are with friends/girlfriends we pay our full attention to them, hence we don't think of our problems'. Now please don't think I am equating God and our friends. The Lord is, of course, much greater and holy than any of the created beings. I am just emphasizing that when we leave our troubles at His feet and focus our full attention on Him, we will feel at peace. If merely created beings, friends can provide us with such a break from our troubles, how much better peace will God provide us.

As for problems being resolved, I agree, only prayers can make them okay, with friends the problems are still there. This proclaims our Lord's greatness further. Thanks for the idea.

And I've been sincerely trying to follow the Lord only for the past two or three years, whereas many of you here have been faithful for many years. So my maturity level is much lower than yours. To you worldly things may hold absolutely no charm, but I am just growing out of it. Certain things like loving friends, grand outings etc. are a bit important to me. Which will explain why I explained this theory in terms of going out with friends. I am just beginning to see the Lord's splendor in worldly things. I'll get to your place where I'll think its criminal to compare the Lord's glory with what we have on Earth, but after sometime. So I guess my post is not for people who have been in the walk for a long time. It'll only offend you that I am using worldly things to explain my relationship with he Lord.

[pokemaughan]

hi,

I didn't equate a psychological principle and prayer. The psychological principle came next. It was 'when we are with friends/girlfriends we pay our full attention to them, hence we don't think of our problems'. Now please don't think I am equating God and our friends. The Lord is, of course, much greater and holy than any of the created beings. I am just emphasizing that when we leave our troubles at His feet and focus our full attention on Him, we will feel at peace. If merely created beings, friends can provide us with such a break from our troubles, how much better peace will God provide us.

As for problems being resolved, I agree, only prayers can make them okay, with friends the problems are still there. This proclaims our Lord's greatness further. Thanks for the idea.

And I've been sincerely trying to follow the Lord only for the past two or three years, whereas many of you here have been faithful for many years. So my maturity level is much lower than yours. To you worldly things may hold absolutely no charm, but I am just growing out of it. Certain things like loving friends, grand outings etc. are a bit important to me. Which will explain why I explained this theory in terms of going out with friends. I am just beginning to see the Lord's splendor in worldly things. I'll get to your place where I'll think its criminal to compare the Lord's glory with what we have on Earth, but after sometime. So I guess my post is not for people who have been in the walk for a long time. It'll only offend you that I am using worldly things to explain my relationship with he Lord.

If it's any consolation, I've been walking with the Lord all of a single year now. Spiritual maturity and growth is what you make of it. Cultivate that soul and it'll grow... but neglect to water it with the Word and you may run into some dry patches!

Live like Jesus died just yesterday.

[jjj]

Prayer has nothing to do with psychological principle.

Prayer has everything to do with everything in a Christian's life.

LOL....I'm sorry, but you just have to explain to me how anyone could possibly compare the power of prayer to principles developed by humans who believe they understand how the human mind works.

More specifically, how is the power of prayer the equivalent of psychological principle, as the person who made the original post proposed?

Now what I said was" psychological principle", you said " a Christian's life, please explain to me how these to are equivalent or somehow related, given that the psychological community at large pretty much ignores all things spiritual.

Sometimes if need to understand the power of the mind to give glory to God or be obedient to Him in mind, so that The mind is battle field and were called to understanding and not ingnorence. Not to sound harsh. I have alot of mental problems and meds never worked. But I beleive God want's us to understand the mind that way we might be able to understand its purpose in His will.

[jjj]

hi,

I thought I would share what I do when I am faced with temptation, sadness etc.

I pray and ask for a sign. If the sign comes as no, I simply shift my focus. I put this problem at the back of my mind and focus on something else. Surprisingly I don't feel sad anymore, and when I think about what I asked for after a few days, I either don't feel anything, or I am glad I didn't get my prayers answered. This is a basic psychological principle. When we are out with our friends/girlfriend, we feel happy to the core. Its not because we have no problems. It because we give our full attention to being with them. Why not use the same principle in all areas of our life?

I just thought I'll share my idea in case it helps someone.

Thank you for reading.

NKJ

1Co 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

Prayer is really important and knowing ourselves and God deeper is really important too.

[georgedrw81]

When you have acccepted God and Jesus then you have no problems.

Blessings

[pokemaughan]

When you have acccepted God and Jesus then you have no problems.

Blessings

I don't think that's entirely true, george... I think John had God and Jesus, and he still lost his head! Of course we'll have problems- probably more than your average person -but we have hope and assurance in the promises of God, and knowing that we're justified and heading to heaven after we do our work down here.

[nebula]

LOL....I'm sorry, but you just have to explain to me how anyone could possibly compare the power of prayer to principles developed by humans who believe they understand how the human mind works.

More specifically, how is the power of prayer the equivalent of psychological principle, as the person who made the original post proposed?

Now what I said was" psychological principle", you said " a Christian's life, please explain to me how these to are equivalent or somehow related, given that the psychological community at large pretty much ignores all things spiritual.

I don't think you understood the original post. GH was running thoughts together. But I think she has a better understanding of leaning on the Lord than a lot of Christians, including me.

Her post is not about the power of prayer. (The only prayer she asked for was a sign.) Her post is about focus.

She has learned when the Lord says, "No," and comes to peace with the answer by accepting it (how many of us still fight with the Lord for what He says, "No," to?).

Then she makes a comparison of how we forget our troubles when with friends to our walk with the Lord. Why don't we forget our troubles when we are with Him in the same way? Here she has moved on to a different thought. Remember how Jesus said, "Do not worry..."? Well, GH is simply giving us a perspective to help us follow this command. The "Friends" and the "psychological principle" are nothing more than guidances to help us make the connection with the application.

Getting up in arms about her comparison because you have a problem with psychology is "straining gnats". Let it go. GH was attempting to offer encouragement the best way she knows how.

[nebula]

And I've been sincerely trying to follow the Lord only for the past two or three years, whereas many of you here have been faithful for many years. So my maturity level is much lower than yours. To you worldly things may hold absolutely no charm, but I am just growing out of it. Certain things like loving friends, grand outings etc. are a bit important to me. Which will explain why I explained this theory in terms of going out with friends. I am just beginning to see the Lord's splendor in worldly things. I'll get to your place where I'll think its criminal to compare the Lord's glory with what we have on Earth, but after sometime. So I guess my post is not for people who have been in the walk for a long time. It'll only offend you that I am using worldly things to explain my relationship with he Lord.

Gerda, don't be so hard on yourself. Some people just like to argue over the littlest things.

I've been a Christian practically my whole life, but I still have a problem focusing on negativity. And worldly things still hold charm to all of us. Friends, though, aren't worldly things. The Lord designed us to need each other. Even Jesus enjoyed the company of His disciples (i.e. taking three of them to some of His deepest prayer times).

Would you please share, though, how you recognize a "no" sign from the Lord? I could really use that help. Thanks!

[nebula]

When you have acccepted God and Jesus then you have no problems.

Blessings

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