What would have kept Adam from giving his life as a sacrifice for Eve?

[nebula]

on the other hand wouldnt you agree friendships are stronger where there have never been betrayals? ...so you see my delimma lol...

Actually, friendships are stronger where there's been forgiveness and reconciliation.

That's one thing I've discovered. Friendships aren't truly worth their weight in salt until they've been through trials and come through as gold.

[Openly Curious]

'nebula' date='Jul 30 2009,

What is the original pondering of the OP?

Is it - what would have happened had Adam covered Eve rather than joining in sin with her?

Or is it the point being argued about whether Adam could be a sacrifice for sin?

Hi neb,

I think it is both of them entwined together truth is we don't know what would have happened if Adam had not fell no matter which way it went Adam could never cover eve's sin he could not save her no matter what for he had not the power to wash away sins therefore he could not be the Saviour of the world. It is also my observation that in the OP wolf is trying to link Adam (1st Adam) to the 2nd Adam but he is doing it in away where Adam was a sacrifice for the sins of the world then he is compaing the first Adam to the second Adam Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour the one and only begotten son of God was the only sacrifice for the sins of the world that will ever be. It was through Adam one man's sin that sin and death entered into this world and abound meaning it began to grow more and more in the world a good example of how it started to grow is Cain he was a murderer and you can read in the OT and you'll see this growth. But Jesus Christ being only one man brought salvation to the world and whenever one get's saved they recieve grace and doing what is right in the sight of God and then good begins to

grow as the grace of God abounds and instead of death and sin there is peace, love, joy, temperance, longsuffering, goodness, meekness, and faith eternal life instead of eternal death. Which that is how first Adam is to be compared to second Adam Jesus Christ our Lord.

If I haven't got it right someone could let me know.

OC

[WolfBitn]

'nebula' date='Jul 30 2009,

What is the original pondering of the OP?

Is it - what would have happened had Adam covered Eve rather than joining in sin with her?

Or is it the point being argued about whether Adam could be a sacrifice for sin?

Hi neb,

I think it is both of them entwined together truth is we don't know what would have happened if Adam had not fell no matter which way it went Adam could never cover eve's sin he could not save her no matter what for he had not the power to wash away sins therefore he could not be the Saviour of the world. It is also my observation that in the OP wolf is trying to link Adam (1st Adam) to the 2nd Adam but he is doing it in away where Adam was a sacrifice for sin to Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour. The one and only begotten son of God was the only sacrifice for the sins of the world that will ever be.

If I haven't got it right someone could let me know.

OC

Hi OC

The problem is I'm not the one linking the first Adam to the 2nd Adam... the bible does this for us.

If you dont mind indulging me one question, are you aware of any scripture at all, detailing the qualifications of a specific sacrifice, where the qualificaiton is more than being sinless/spotless?

[ayin jade]

The problem is I'm not the one linking the first Adam to the 2nd Adam... the bible does this for us.

The link in the bible shows the antitype. Death came from the first adam. Life came from the second adam. Life and death cannot come from the first adam.

[WolfBitn]

The problem is I'm not the one linking the first Adam to the 2nd Adam... the bible does this for us.

The link in the bible shows the antitype. Death came from the first adam. Life came from the second adam. Life and death cannot come from the first adam.

Why and how did death come through the first Adam AJ?

[Guest man]

man

1 Corinthians 15

45 And so it is written,

[Deepblue]

Usually by the time I check a thread, everything that can be said has been said. Discussions like this frustrate me so much because it seems like so many people are boxed into their own opinion and won't allow anything, not even the truth and scriptural proof to make them to budge. I agree with what Ayin Jade has posted so far, just to give you my position on the "issue".

[WolfBitn]

man

1 Corinthians 15

45 And so it is written,

[WolfBitn]

^^^Neither of those passages address the PRE fall condition of adam, or the qualifications of the sacrifice... and i love the word i i have nothing against it, i live for it... youre just not posting anything relevant to the question

there is no passage in the Bible that address the PRE fall condition of Adam in the way that you are asking.

The absence of them does not make you right any more than the absence of a Bible verse telling me there are no blue unicorns means there are blue unicorns.

Uh huh... there are scriptures concerning the qualifications of a sacrifice though... and if an animal was accepted and you can produce no scripture showing a Sinless Adam couldnt have been accepted then youre just plum outta luck bubba, you cant prove your case, and this remains a hypothetical possibility

What would God have done do you think, if Adam, sinless would have offered his life for eves?

so does SMACKING the Christ off His seat of judgement

Odd statement coming from a guy trying to put Adam on the same level as Jesus.

I never did that either, and i could demand you quote me on this, but youre just trolling, ive got you down pat now, and you will bypass that too with more garb and no source

[traveller]

No point arguing over the hypothetical.