I do not understand this

[Gold David]

God forgives our sins but why do we still have the sinful nature ?

[Fez]

Because God is full of grace for us, and because we are born into sin, and although we are to strive to be "perfect', it is goal not one of us can ever attain.

[Guest]

God forgives our sins but why do we still have the sinful nature ?

The Tale Of Two Natures

Let me explain further. Live your life as your spiritual nature directs you.

Then you will never follow through on what your corrupt nature wants.

What your corrupt nature wants is contrary to what your spiritual nature wants, and what your spiritual nature wants is contrary to what your corrupt nature wants.

They are opposed to each other.

As a result, you don't always do what you intend to do.

If your spiritual nature is your guide, you are not subject to Moses' laws.

Now, the effects of the corrupt nature are obvious: illicit sex, perversion, promiscuity,

idolatry, drug use, hatred, rivalry, jealousy, angry outbursts, selfish ambition, conflict, factions,

envy, drunkenness, wild partying, and similar things.

I've told you in the past and I'm telling you again that people who do these kinds of things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

But the spiritual nature produces love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,

gentleness, and self-control. There are no laws against things like that.

Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified their corrupt nature along with its passions and desires.

Galatians 5:16-24 (GWT)

"Blessed are those who recognize they are spiritually helpless. The kingdom of heaven belongs to them. - Matthew 5:3 (GWT)

If we live by our spiritual nature, then our lives need to conform to our spiritual nature.

We can't allow ourselves to act arrogantly and to provoke or envy each other.

Galatians 5:25-26 (GWT)

[Hunterpoet]

It is because we are still in the flesh, and the flesh has certain needs. All of which we are able to abuse and use to excess as we did in our former lives on the other side of the cross.

The main difference being that we have been given the tools to avoid the temptations of excess and abuse, mainly, staying grounded in the word and obedience.

1John5:4 For whosoever is born of God overcometh the world, and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

Brethren NT commentary:

This is a general truth existing in all who all been born of God. He overcame the world(John16:33), destroying the works of the devil(1John3:8), and established His kingdom and Gospel on the earth in the midst of His enemies. Therefore, he who is since born of God according to that Gospel(John1:13), shall overcome the world through faith in Jesus, the first born Son of God.

[Shiloh62]

God forgives our sins but why do we still have the sinful nature ?

Because of Adam's transgressions, we have sinful blood, but through the blood of Christ, we are forgiven.

[oak]

It's the mystery of free will. Adam and Eve did not live in awful conditions and yet they still reached out for what was forbidden. The main point is our egos are unquenchable.

Oak

[JCISGD]

God forgives our sins but why do we still have the sinful nature ?

where does the bible say we have a sinful nature ?

[Gold David]

Thanks for all the answers.

I got to walk in Spirit and not in Flesh. I got it.

[JCISGD]

God forgives our sins but why do we still have the sinful nature ?

where does the bible say we have a sinful nature ?

Here is just one of many. Would you like more?

Rom 8: 3 For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in sinful man, 4in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit.

5Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. 6The mind of sinful man is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace; 7the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God's law, nor can it do so. 8Those controlled by the sinful nature cannot please God.

9You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. 10But if Christ is in you, your body is dead because of sin, yet your spirit is alive because of righteousness. 11And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit, who lives in you.

My error i should have said where does it say that the sinful nature still present once we are converted.

IMO your error is thinking that the sinful nature is a part of our makeup, but if this were true we could not be held accountable for it. The sinful nature is only in that it is the natural thing for us to do and to do right is the exception.

When an athelete/musician excels it is often said it comes naturally to them as they were often born with the physical attributes for it, likewise we being born into a fallen world and being surrounded by sinful influences and examples, do naturally chose sin as opposed to righteousness. This why those children that God takes before the age of reason can be saved when they might otherwise have been lost. God is just and wise in all His actions.

Conversion is when we surrender to God and by His power stop sinning naturally and sin being the exception rather than the nature, having now a new nature.

[Openly Curious]

God forgives our sins but why do we still have the sinful nature ?

2 Corinthians 5:17--Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a "new creature" old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

You need to study Ephesians, Philippians and Colossians that talks about the "old man" and the "new man"

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