Ellen Whats her name on hate law

[elizabetht]

Does it really make a difference to anyone if they make laws against preaching His word? Let the Apostles be our examples. If they place us in prison, then preach to the prisoners, they need salvation too!

As usual Onelight, you hit the mark. Darn!! lol

[JCISGD]

This is more than being against true hate or true hate speech with which i myself agree, but that no one can speak out against others choice of sexual behaviour or anything disagreeable to them.

Would it be a crime to speak out against adult brother/sister marriage?

It seems that it will depend on wether a group of people are offended and see it as hate, but i did see another post where the gay spokesperson was adamant it would not mean preachers would be censored.

At this point it does seem to be mostly against hateful speech etc, which if we apply "do unto others..." then i too would want the law to protect me if others were hateful towards me with intent to harm?

[JCISGD]

Does it really make a difference to anyone if they make laws against preaching His word? Let the Apostles be our examples. If they place us in prison, then preach to the prisoners, they need salvation too!

Right on OneLight I was mainly thinking how slippery Satan was to get people like Ellen to think they were loving but that Christians were narrow minded and hateful. The look on her face and venom in her speech was quite striking to me, but as you say "bring it on".

The Martyrs in other countries are known to not ask for prayer for deliverance but rather perseverance in preaching.

[Miss Elly]

doing away with hate crimes? it will never happen. all crimes are motivated by hate. have you ever seen a crime committed that was done out of love?

I love your answer! I wonder if hell will be hotter for someone who kills someone that falls into the hate list category or just a common ordinary elderly man or woman, a child, teenager, or even a christian? Somehow I think the judge of the earth will hand out equal opportunity to all who kill, no matter who.

I detest this new law with all of my heart.

Edited October 15, 2009 by Miss Elly

[Guest LadyC]

her name is ellen degenerate. OOPS! i meant degeneres.

you're right. the world is so mixed up and deceived that it can't tell right from wrong and love from hate. christians are not the ones doing the hating. you post a good reminder of how this is a spiritual battle, and we should try to keep that in mind!

You may or may not have been joking, but I will address this issue anyway.

You should not call her degenerate. Here is an article written by Tim Wilkins, ex homosexual and leader of a speaking ministry on homosexuality. He is neck deep in ministering to these people, and knows his stuff.

http://crossministry.org/index.php?option=...s&Itemid=65

"I disdain, I abhor the comments that come from so-called Christians that attempt to dehumanize homosexuals," Wilkins said. "I am diametrically opposed to Ellen DeGeneres' views, but I am even more opposed to those who call her Ellen Degenerate."

i was joking, sorta. but i do often call her that, and will continue to do so. i don't call her that because she's a lesbian, i call her that because it's a facetious name for someone whose views i disagree with, and i'd call her that if, for example, she was a heterosexual who supported abortion. it's the exact same thing as me calling the dixie chicks the ditzy twits... and they're not lesbians (to my knowledge), or calling a character on a tv show i watch "dizzy lizzy", "lizard", and "reptile".

[~candice~]

her name is ellen degenerate. OOPS! i meant degeneres.

you're right. the world is so mixed up and deceived that it can't tell right from wrong and love from hate. christians are not the ones doing the hating. you post a good reminder of how this is a spiritual battle, and we should try to keep that in mind!

You may or may not have been joking, but I will address this issue anyway.

You should not call her degenerate. Here is an article written by Tim Wilkins, ex homosexual and leader of a speaking ministry on homosexuality. He is neck deep in ministering to these people, and knows his stuff.

http://crossministry.org/index.php?option=...s&Itemid=65

"I disdain, I abhor the comments that come from so-called Christians that attempt to dehumanize homosexuals," Wilkins said. "I am diametrically opposed to Ellen DeGeneres' views, but I am even more opposed to those who call her Ellen Degenerate."

i was joking, sorta. but i do often call her that, and will continue to do so. i don't call her that because she's a lesbian, i call her that because it's a facetious name for someone whose views i disagree with, and i'd call her that if, for example, she was a heterosexual who supported abortion. it's the exact same thing as me calling the dixie chicks the ditzy twits... and they're not lesbians (to my knowledge), or calling a character on a tv show i watch "dizzy lizzy", "lizard", and "reptile".

OK, we all have pet names we call people that we disagree with, usually some play on their name. This particular nickname is kind of a token example, and most people associate it with her being degerate because or her orientation and will read that into the nickname when it is used.

[Guest LadyC]

and some people associate harmless terms like "nappy headed" with racism too. that doesn't make it so. (nappy headed is a southern phrase that has nothing to do with race.) and as you said, making a play on words doesn't make degenerate have anything to do with homosexuality.

[~candice~]

Bowing out of this conversation before I spoil an otherwise sunny happy day. GBU.

[Fez]

Bowing out of this conversation before I spoil an otherwise sunny happy day. GBU.

And fez follows gracefully

[Blien]

If caring that people take care of their bodies and not abuse them in means they were not meant to be. Then label me a hater. Label me a hater of all body abuse like slavery, drug abuse and sexual perversion.

This is the world we live in. Where Sin is paraded on the streets freely. The day is coming when God will put an end to this.. that will be a happy day. I can finally be free.