Questions for people who say Christians can't accept evolution

[MorningGlory]

I disagree with you brother. Those that have a relationship with the Lord do know what happens after death and we do know whether or not the Word of God is true.

I don't think that mocking an unbeliever or getting upset/frustrated with them is the way Jesus taught us to share the Gospel in love.

Amen to that. We know what we are supposed to do....sometimes it's just really hard to overlook the frustration of trying to do it!

[MorningGlory]

I will continue to pray for you, Christopher. Believe it, or not, believers would rather see you in the Kingdom with us.

Amen, as will I pray for the scales to be taken from your eyes. The good news you have another chance, you woke up today.

[OneLight]

If you are right, then Christians are the most sorrowful bunch of people the world will ever know ... BUT .. if we are right, you loose for eternity.

Now then, this is not the same thing. Let's assume I am wrong and I will not find Heaven after my mortal death. Why would my lot in life be sorrowful.

1 Corinthians 15:12-19

The Risen Christ, Our Hope

Now if Christ is preached that He has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ is not risen. And if Christ is not risen, then our preaching is empty and your faith is also empty. Yes, and we are found false witnesses of God, because we have testified of God that He raised up Christ, whom He did not raise up

[Fez]

That being said, I don't worry about it because I know its not true.

I know it's not true, so nanny, nanny, boo, boo to you. This is what you sound like, incredible.

Good grief, no one knows exactly what happens after our mortal death. So no one not even you the enlightened one can possibly KNOW whether the Word of God is true or not.

Your open loathing of us that believe makes one wonder even more why you have come here other than to start trouble.

I disagree with you brother. Those that have a relationship with the Lord do know what happens after death and we do know whether or not the Word of God is true.

I know what you mean and I agree.

My point was that no one of us has actually died, therefore we have no certain knowledge of what happens after death, from his scientific trumped game of semantics. He was claiming certain knowledge of the afterlife and I wanted to let him know the weakness of his point. It is obvious that I was not clear enough, because I agree with you 100%, I should have chosen my words more carefully. Thank you for catching it so I could explain.

Yes, I believe I and all that believe that Christ lived, died and was resurrected to offer us Grace for His sacrifice for all our sins will be in Heaven. I also believe that we must be not only faithful, but obedient and cognizant of God's Word.

I don't think that mocking an unbeliever or getting upset/frustrated with them is the way Jesus taught us to share the Gospel in love.

As far as getting frustrated, after the first 100 times I have been insulted and talked down to by this person enough times to say it is time for this forum to rid itself of him and move on to our purpose. Jesus did not teach us to be doormats, but soldiers of His sacrifice and spreading of His Word so that all may hear.

This member is obviously only here to be derogatory and dismissive of our core beliefs. That is also against the rules of this forum.

I am aware of the Words of Christ regarding sinners where He says: "A man that is well does not need a doctor." I agree, but we have ministered to this person and covered the same ground constantly and they still only criticize and attempt to belittle us and our faith. Calling the doctor is only part of the equation, I believe you must follow the doctors directions to be healed. Do you not?

Amen to that. When do we obey the command "pearls before swine". This situation should be left to Jesus, and out prayer for it. I for one will no longer waste my time with this. I will follow scripture, and lay this before the cross. First time I will have used the ignore function on these boards. Enough is enough.

Blessings

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

I recommend that if you've grown weary with some of our friends here that you take some time away from the outer court and be refreshed.

Even the Lord went to the mountain top and communed with the Father. He withdrew from the crowds and refreshed Himself.

As for the, rules, when rules are written in stark black and followed to a "T" we call it Religion. The Spirit of God brings forth life.

Peace,

Dave

[OneLight]

I agree; the consequences of the wrong decision are too awful to contemplate.

Yessiree Bob, either I or ChristopherCarlin are most certainly wrong. I'd rather be me and be wrong than him. Whew, even the thought of that eternal Lake of Fire promised to unrepentant transgressors makes me nervous in the service as we used to say. It still applies now because I am in the service of the Lord my God.

I can't believe. I just can't. And forcing myself to "believe" won't be a true conversion anyways. The way I see it, because I can't believe and because any conversion would be seen as fake by an all powerful all knowing god, I'm going below regardless.

That being said, I don't worry about it because I know its not true.

Let me turn this around, if I may. There is a thread here about the oldest event ever witnessed. In this thread, scientist state that they are viewing something that happened over 13.7 billion years ago. The scientist believe that they can place a time on this because of how they have come to be able to calculate the time it takes for light to travel and how they calculate the distance. They believe in this, but I do not. Are they right even though I don't believe them, or am I right because I don't believe man can do such?

[OneLight]

I agree; the consequences of the wrong decision are too awful to contemplate.

Yessiree Bob, either I or ChristopherCarlin are most certainly wrong. I'd rather be me and be wrong than him. Whew, even the thought of that eternal Lake of Fire promised to unrepentant transgressors makes me nervous in the service as we used to say. It still applies now because I am in the service of the Lord my God.

I can't believe. I just can't. And forcing myself to "believe" won't be a true conversion anyways. The way I see it, because I can't believe and because any conversion would be seen as fake by an all powerful all knowing god, I'm going below regardless.

That being said, I don't worry about it because I know its not true.

Let me turn this around, if I may. There is a thread here about the oldest event ever witnessed. In this thread, scientist state that they are viewing something that happened over 13.7 billion years ago. The scientist believe that they can place a time on this because of how they have come to be able to calculate the time it takes for light to travel and how they calculate the distance. They believe in this, but I do not. Are they right even though I don't believe them, or am I right because I don't believe man can do such?

Its physics. They wouldn't use the formula if they knew it didn't work (or only worked some of the time). Believe it or not, some men (and women) are ridiculously smart. Reading a Brief History of Time proves that. I don't doubt the formula works and is accurate in this case (our world and our universe are really old, by the way).

Why do you avoid my questions?

How can they prove that the time was around 13.7 billion years? By measuring a brief history of time, do they assume their discoveries are infinite and can be applied to measure time and distance to everything beyond the earth? To me, it seems impossible to prove that this is exact, or even close.

And to set you at ease, nobody ever said they were not really smart. On the contrary, they had to be to develop all that they have.

[Rick-Parker]

And There Was Evening And There Was Morning

Article by Jack Kelley

The other day I received an interesting response to my answer stating that the Bible supports an approximate 6000 year history for the human race. This person didn't dispute the Bible, only our interpretation of it, in disagreeing with my answer. The essence of his response was that since science has found what it considers to be persuasive evidence that contradicts the literal view of the creation account, then our traditional interpretation of the language in Genesis 1 has to be flawed. The writer is a scientist and a Christian. He presented a calm and reasoned response claiming that every relevant field of science is in agreement that "enormous amounts of very convincing evidence exists for an old

Edited November 2, 2009 by Parker1

[MorningGlory]

I can understand non-believers searching for an alternative to the Biblical account. They have to find one in order to justify their disbelief. But how can scientists who are Christian actually think man can know more about how we were created than the One who did it, to a point where they can dispute the accuracy of the Creator's account? For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate." (1 Cor. 1:19) The time will come when we'll know everything, just like God does. At that time we won't have to take His word for anything. As Paul said, "We will know fully as we are fully known." (1 Cor. 13:12) Until then I don't believe we have the right to pick and choose what parts of His Word we want to believe. We certainly don't have the perspective. "Who has known the mind of the Lord? we're asked, Or who has been his counselor?" (Romans 11:34) Selah 10-31-09

Great article, Parker1!

[Fraught]

Answer the question. Why do you not preach against people who work on the Sabbath but preach against homosexuals? Where's your right to pick and choose what to follow in the Bible?

why do you care? we preach against lying, theft, adultery, murder, sexual deviance of all kinds.

it's what we preach for that would solve it all: love your neighbor as you love yourself. put their needs above your own. if we all did that? wow, what a wonderful world it would be (lol, as the song goes).

i'm sorry to say that i have never seen a happy homosexual. i've known many; the seeming happiness with the lifestyle is a facade. why support it, why not help them out of it, instead. God can do that.