Name It, Claim It

[2Joyful]

Blessings,

IOW, when on the brink of death, why not just name and claim life and you would never die?

There has been many testimonies concerning believers on their death bed, because of cancer etc, and having faith, named their healing, claimed their healing, believing it in the Name of Jesus and received it (healing).

For that matter, why not just go to the graveyard and name and claim them all back to life?

Or go to the hospitals and clear them out by claiming healing for all the patients?... Why not? It wouldn't hurt to try

Or in Daniel 3:17-18 which says: "If we are thrown into the blazing furnace,( name it)... the God we serve is able to save us from it, (claim it and believe it)

and He will rescue us from your hands, (and they received it)

But even if He does not we want you to know, O King, that we will not serve your gods or worship the image of gold you have set up."

Thank you also Wyguy for explaining the movement...jotful

[2Joyful]

I do not ascribe to "name it, claim it" as I understand the whole movement... however, I find this passage to be absolutely true...

22"Have[f] faith in God," Jesus answered. 23"I tell you the truth, if anyone says to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it will be done for him. 24Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours. 25And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive him, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins."[g]

I don't know anything about the movement, but this verse sums up ...name it, claim it and believe it you shall receive it.

Can someone explain this movement?

it is out of context is what is happening, they have left out the condition that was set upon us... man.... part is our faith, another part, is (just waht is listed here) IF YOU HOLD ANYTHING AGAINST ANYONE, FORGIVE HIM..... hmmm forgiveness.... how many here are holding unforgiveness?????

how many here have offended their brother and have failed to go to their brother and make ammends????

conditions.....

mike

ok getting more information...thanks..jot

I didn't see much of the information on board, until I posted my answer. I want all to know that I was answering according to a true believer with faith in God...jot

[wyguy]

They seem to leave out this scripture.

1Jn 5:14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:

We have to ask in God's will, sometimes our will and our desires are not in oine with His.

Amen! Great point!

[Openly Curious]

'wyguy' date='Nov 13 2009,

So guys, what do you think about the whole "name it, claim it" controversy? Is it Biblical or not?

John 14:23--Jesus answered and said,unto him If a man love me, he will keep my words: (his commandments) and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

1 John 2:24--Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning, If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.

It is us that follow's the Lords commandments And We Do Not Command God what to do. It is GOD who Command us what to do

We do not name what we want then turn around and claim it.

The word says, in the book of James that we have not because we ask not, now their is no instructions for us to Name it and CLAIM it

oc

[Openly Curious]

So guys, what do you think about the whole "name it, claim it" controversy? Is it Biblical or not?

not, being that everything (except Gods unconditional love for us) has conditions on it..... even our salvation is conditional, we have to accept the gift.....

as far as other stuff, we are instructed how that is to come about, and it has nothing to do the blabbing it and grabbing it....

seek ye FIRST................THEN................ (CONDITION...)

IF, THEN constitutes condition....

when it is said that He will give us the desires of our hearts, what is really meant? if we are truely following HIM, then the desires of our heart are no longer about us, it is about Christ and those that we are to be serving, those lost souls and bringing them to Christ, not about a car, or phone or junk like that, but eternal desires.....

mike

John 6:33--Seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you. (Spoken about chapter six as a whole)

AMEN

[nikki1]

So guys, what do you think about the whole "name it, claim it" controversy? Is it Biblical or not?

not, being that everything (except Gods unconditional love for us) has conditions on it..... even our salvation is conditional, we have to accept the gift.....

as far as other stuff, we are instructed how that is to come about, and it has nothing to do the blabbing it and grabbing it....

seek ye FIRST................THEN................ (CONDITION...)

IF, THEN constitutes condition....

when it is said that He will give us the desires of our hearts, what is really meant? if we are truely following HIM, then the desires of our heart are no longer about us, it is about Christ and those that we are to be serving, those lost souls and bringing them to Christ, not about a car, or phone or junk like that, but eternal desires.....

mike

John 6:33--Seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you. (Spoken about chapter six as a whole)

AMEN

Amen !

Blessings,

Nikki

[Believer1997]

I do not ascribe to "name it, claim it" as I understand the whole movement... however, I find this passage to be absolutely true...

22"Have[f] faith in God," Jesus answered. 23"I tell you the truth, if anyone says to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it will be done for him. 24Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours. 25And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive him, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins."[g]

I don't know anything about the movement, but this verse sums up ...name it, claim it and believe it you shall receive it.

Can someone explain this movement?

It is the belief that anything you tell God you want or need, he will provide. IE, Say you have Cancer. To a NICI believer all you have to do is say that you need healing (Name ) and then profess that God will do it (Claim It) because he HAS to, according to scripture.

Basically it is a system of giving commands to God.

The scripture you quoted was Jesus talking to the disciples before he sent them out 2 by 2 to preach. He was telling THEM what power THEY could access on that particular mission trip. The scripture is misapplied by the NICI crowd.

Yes, I know - It is, I believe, how they can justify what they wish to promote.

[2Joyful]

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I do not ascribe to "name it, claim it" as I understand the whole movement... however, I find this passage to be absolutely true...

22"Have[f] faith in God," Jesus answered. 23"I tell you the truth, if anyone says to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it will be done for him. 24Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours. 25And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive him, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins."[g]

I don't know anything about the movement, but this verse sums up ...name it, claim it and believe it you shall receive it.

Can someone explain this movement?

It is the belief that anything you tell God you want or need, he will provide. IE, Say you have Cancer. To a NICI believer all you have to do is say that you need healing (Name ) and then profess that God will do it (Claim It) because he HAS to, according to scripture.

Basically it is a system of giving commands to God.

Well, that scripture has always been a very presence help in times of need, trouble, and comfort to me. It has always been a comformation to me from God, as long as my need is lined up with His Word, and I believe in my heart, it shall be done.....jot

[MorningGlory]

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I do not ascribe to "name it, claim it" as I understand the whole movement... however, I find this passage to be absolutely true...

22"Have[f] faith in God," Jesus answered. 23"I tell you the truth, if anyone says to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it will be done for him. 24Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours. 25And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive him, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins."[g]

I don't know anything about the movement, but this verse sums up ...name it, claim it and believe it you shall receive it.

Can someone explain this movement?

It is the belief that anything you tell God you want or need, he will provide. IE, Say you have Cancer. To a NICI believer all you have to do is say that you need healing (Name ) and then profess that God will do it (Claim It) because he HAS to, according to scripture.

Basically it is a system of giving commands to God.

Well, that scripture has always been a very presence help in times of need, trouble, and comfort to me. It has always been a comformation to me from God, as long as my need is lined up with His Word, and I believe in my heart, it shall be done.....jot

That's the key, jot; as long as our need is lined up with His word.