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It would appear from Ecclesiastes 3:21 that the spirit of an animal at death goes into the earth and is not bound for heaven as man's may be "Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?".

Also scripture seems to imply that beasts (animals) are not tripartite beings as man is but rather possess only a body and spirit. It was Adam (Man) that became a "living soul".

God bless....

Horses Too?

And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

Revelation 19:11-14

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hello,

It would appear from Ecclesiastes 3:21 that the spirit of an animal at death goes into the earth and is not bound for heaven as man's may be "Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?".

Also scripture seems to imply that beasts (animals) are not tripartite beings as man is but rather possess only a body and spirit. It was Adam (Man) that became a "living soul".

God bless....

If you'll notice, it's a question. It asks, "Who knows...?"

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hello,

It would appear from Ecclesiastes 3:21 that the spirit of an animal at death goes into the earth and is not bound for heaven as man's may be "Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?".

Also scripture seems to imply that beasts (animals) are not tripartite beings as man is but rather possess only a body and spirit. It was Adam (Man) that became a "living soul".

God bless....

Yes, that is the scripture that everyone uses. The problem is, this can be read both ways.


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I believe that animals have souls because God said,

"For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul." (Lev 17:11).

The blood of the animal which was slain on the altar on the Day of Atonement was sprinkled on the mercy seat of the Ark of the Covenant in the Holy of Holies, making atonement for the sins of the people.

If an animal does not have a soul, how could it's life-blood be accepted as an atonement for souls?

This is also why God commanded that we abstain from eating blood:

"And whatsoever man there be of the house of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn among you, that eateth any manner of blood; I will even set my face against that soul that eateth blood, and will cut him off from among his people.... For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul... Therefore I said unto the children of Israel, No soul of you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger that sojourneth among you eat blood. And whatsoever man there be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn among you, which hunteth and catcheth any beast or fowl that may be eaten; he shall even pour out the blood thereof, and cover it with dust." (Lev 17:10-13).

It seems to me that the blood of the beast or fowl is being linked to the soul of the beast or fowl in the above verses.

Lekh


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I don't know if they have souls in the sense that we think of souls. A couple of months before I was diagnosed with cancer - I "found" a cat - she was a large kitten and we wanted a pet - but my husband (he was my fiance' at the time) wasn't sure that she was the right "fit" - my son immediately started to turn her into "Super cat" and they became very close. She was very skittish and the only one she really seemed to like was my son. After my initial surgery and subsequent operations, chemo, radiation, pain, frustration, weakness, etc.... we noticed that on my really bad days, the cat never left my side - she would curl up next to my back and stay near me. When I was physically so ill and would just curl into a fetal position - she was there... I had heard of dogs having such loyalty - but never a cat... She is still with us - she's over 15 years old now and arthritic and has terrible eyesight. She's finicky and testy - she doesn't like anyone near her.... but, if one of us is ill - Nurse Fat Cat is right there... licking our feet and laying close by. So - I'm not sure about her soul - but she has a sense of duty about her when we are not well or sad... she's so so independent and has her odd ways and we respect each other for that... :24:


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I don't know if they have souls in the sense that we think of souls. A couple of months before I was diagnosed with cancer - I "found" a cat - she was a large kitten and we wanted a pet - but my husband (he was my fiance' at the time) wasn't sure that she was the right "fit" - my son immediately started to turn her into "Super cat" and they became very close. She was very skittish and the only one she really seemed to like was my son. After my initial surgery and subsequent operations, chemo, radiation, pain, frustration, weakness, etc.... we noticed that on my really bad days, the cat never left my side - she would curl up next to my back and stay near me. When I was physically so ill and would just curl into a fetal position - she was there... I had heard of dogs having such loyalty - but never a cat... She is still with us - she's over 15 years old now and arthritic and has terrible eyesight. She's finicky and testy - she doesn't like anyone near her.... but, if one of us is ill - Nurse Fat Cat is right there... licking our feet and laying close by. So - I'm not sure about her soul - but she has a sense of duty about her when we are not well or sad... she's so so independent and has her odd ways and we respect each other for that... :24:

There are so many instances of animals having empathy for the suffering of humans. If they did not have a soul, how could that be? Also, why do animals and birds respond to love?


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There is just so much of His creation that we do not know. We will just have to wait and see.


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If an animal does not have a soul, how could it's life-blood be accepted as an atonement for souls?

I'm not sure what is meant by that. The Bible says it's impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins. (Hebrews 10:4)


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Pets are people too!!

But I agree with MorningGlory...theres nothing that I've read to make me believe that we will see our beloved pets in heaven....sadly.

Although, who can claim to know for certian until we get there....maybe its a surprise that God has in store for us... :24:

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hello,

It would appear from Ecclesiastes 3:21 that the spirit of an animal at death goes into the earth and is not bound for heaven as man's may be "Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?".

Also scripture seems to imply that beasts (animals) are not tripartite beings as man is but rather possess only a body and spirit. It was Adam (Man) that became a "living soul".

God bless....

That's a compelling passage for animals not having souls....welcome to Worthy, btw.! :emot-handshake:

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