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I want to know where the goods I buy come from. I have no problem with buying stuff produced within Israel or produced by Palestinians or Syrians in the West Bank Gaza or Golan. I don't want to buy products produced by settlers occupying land seized after 1967. What's wrong with me having that knowledge?

Interesting... You have no problem buying products made by people who vote to have the most rutheless, bloodthirsty terrorist organization as their representative government and who support the indiscriminate terrorism committed against innocent people and who practically rid Bethlehem of its Christian population and who teach their children that Jews are descended from apes and pigs. That you don't find morally offensive enough to boycott, but you will not buy products from people who spend their lives growing oranges and tomatoes.

The west bank does not belong to the Palestinians. It was land siezed by Jordan in the 1948 war and the Palestinians were brutalized by Jordan for 19 yearsin the West Bank until Israel took control of it from Joran in a war that Jordan helped inflict on Israel. The West Bank is not part any soveriengn nation and is not, therefore, under "occupation." The Jews have as much right to be there as the Arabs.

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I have often seen products in the UK saying 'West Bank' on them...now with the new British law I will be able to support Israel by only buying Israeli West Bank items...although I think they could make it even simpler and instead of West Bank on them, just have Israel, or Judea & Samaria. The term 'occupied Territories' is just nonsense, but like the word 'Palestinians' if it is said often enough, people will believe it....the very latest issuei s that somehow Jerusalem is the capital of mythical Palestine, and this will be pushed around until people simply believe it.

I hope The US and other countries boycott all British goods...unless they know the firm supports Israel.

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Good bye England!

So long and thanks for all the fish....


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Made in labels have lost their meaning for sometime now.In the EU it does not even say anymore where the product is done.Products also loose their origin if a certain part is made in the new country.For example you can buy the oranges from Israel but once it made into juice and/or packaged in Egypt it becomes Egyptian product. Sometimes it has on the label 'packed in' or 'assembled' but not were the actually the origin.This is wide spread especially in food products but done extensively in other goods as well.

The label gives information about the origin of the product when there is a premium to be paid on a similar item with no know origin.

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I want to know where the goods I buy come from. I have no problem with buying stuff produced within Israel or produced by Palestinians or Syrians in the West Bank Gaza or Golan. I don't want to buy products produced by settlers occupying land seized after 1967. What's wrong with me having that knowledge?

You have every right to know where goods come from...but the sound of anti-semitism in the U.K. is deafening.

If I have the right to know where products come from than there's nothing wrong with this policy, because that's all it ensures. As it being anti-semitic, well it's a policy being introduced by David Miliband a prominent jewish politician.

There are many self-hating Jews....the logic of that escapes me. But Britain, and Europe, are becoming more anti-Jew according to what I read. Or reverting to their former societal personas; I'm not sure which. And the reason behind it, of course, is the islamatization of that part of the world.

Ah the old self hating jew line trotted out by the Israeli far right and their allies to demonise any Israeli or Jew who has the timerity to disagree with them, classic totalitarian tactic. As the son of refugees from Poland Milliband is presumably familiar with the evil of real anti-semitism and perhaps have some sympathy with the plight and the rights of the dispossesed. As to antisemitism in Britain and Europe in general the focus of the bigots here has long shifted to the Muslim communities wich are much more visible and less established and so easier targets.

I support a just two state solution. That's not a terribly radical belief and it's one supported by a much of the Israeli political class, the Iaraeli population and the broader Jewish diaspora. Are they all self-hating Jews too?

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Ah the old self hating jew line trotted out by the Israeli far right and their allies to demonise any Israeli or Jew who has the timerity to disagree with them, classic totalitarian tactic.

ah, the old "lets find one person who is crazy enough to agree with us and the terrorists and then act like that is the consensus of all jews" act.

As the son of refugees from Poland Milliband is presumably familiar with the evil of real anti-semitism and perhaps have some sympathy with the plight and the rights of the dispossesed.

The kids of holocaust victims are all messed up. You could find more of them who would disagree with this person than would agree...but that doesn't matter to you, eh?

As to antisemitism in Britain and Europe in general the focus of the bigots here has long shifted to the Muslim communities wich are much more visible and less established and so easier targets.

not to mention violent and bloodthirsty!

I support a just two state solution.

That is what we have already. Jordan and Israel - the 2 state solution from 1948

So you don't support a "just" anything. You support the idea of all the jews being pushed into the Mediteranean....whether you realize it or not.

Personally? I think you do. Please feel free to correct me

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I support a just two state solution.

Problem is, the Palestinian governments do not. Why else would they refuse to acknowledge the right of Israel to exist?


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Ah the old self hating jew line trotted out by the Israeli far right and their allies to demonise any Israeli or Jew who has the timerity to disagree with them, classic totalitarian tactic.

ah, the old "lets find one person who is crazy enough to agree with us and the terrorists and then act like that is the consensus of all jews" act.

As the son of refugees from Poland Milliband is presumably familiar with the evil of real anti-semitism and perhaps have some sympathy with the plight and the rights of the dispossesed.

The kids of holocaust victims are all messed up. You could find more of them who would disagree with this person than would agree...but that doesn't matter to you, eh?

As to antisemitism in Britain and Europe in general the focus of the bigots here has long shifted to the Muslim communities wich are much more visible and less established and so easier targets.

not to mention violent and bloodthirsty!

I support a just two state solution.

That is what we have already. Jordan and Israel - the 2 state solution from 1948

So you don't support a "just" anything. You support the idea of all the jews being pushed into the Mediteranean....whether you realize it or not.

Personally? I think you do. Please feel free to correct me

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I've done so in the past but that doesn't stop you going into attack dog mode. Isupport a two state soolution. Israeli within the pre 68 borrders a Palestinian state on the West Bank and Gaza with its capital in East Jerusalem and the return of the Golan to syria. Since all Israeli politicians, admitedly with varying degrees of enthusiasm, to the left of Netanahu, favour a negotiated peace with a Palestinian state, I really don't feel that islolated. Are Barak, Sharon, Olmet, and peres all self-hating Jews in your book?

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I want to know where the goods I buy come from. I have no problem with buying stuff produced within Israel or produced by Palestinians or Syrians in the West Bank Gaza or Golan. I don't want to buy products produced by settlers occupying land seized after 1967. What's wrong with me having that knowledge?

You have every right to know where goods come from...but the sound of anti-semitism in the U.K. is deafening.

If I have the right to know where products come from than there's nothing wrong with this policy, because that's all it ensures. As it being anti-semitic, well it's a policy being introduced by David Miliband a prominent jewish politician.

There are many self-hating Jews....the logic of that escapes me. But Britain, and Europe, are becoming more anti-Jew according to what I read. Or reverting to their former societal personas; I'm not sure which. And the reason behind it, of course, is the islamatization of that part of the world.

Ah the old self hating jew line trotted out by the Israeli far right and their allies to demonise any Israeli or Jew who has the timerity to disagree with them, classic totalitarian tactic. As the son of refugees from Poland Milliband is presumably familiar with the evil of real anti-semitism and perhaps have some sympathy with the plight and the rights of the dispossesed. As to antisemitism in Britain and Europe in general the focus of the bigots here has long shifted to the Muslim communities wich are much more visible and less established and so easier targets.

I support a just two state solution. That's not a terribly radical belief and it's one supported by a much of the Israeli political class, the Iaraeli population and the broader Jewish diaspora. Are they all self-hating Jews too?

It doesn't matter who supports it or not. The two-state solution won't work.

1. The two-state solution was rejected by the Arab world three times in the 20th century. In fact EVERY solution has been thwarted by the Arab world precisely because they did not include the dismantling of Israel.

2. The two-state solution would place Israeli towns in more danger, as the two-state solution would allow terrorist entities such as Fatah and Hamas to live nearer to the border with Israel placing more Israeli cities in range of rocket and mortar fire.

3. The Arab world has thus far refused to agree to a Palestinian state on the grounds that it would require the setting of borders with Israel. By establishing recognizable borders with Israel, it would be tantamount to accepting the legitimacy of Israel's existence as a Jewish nation and the Arab world up to this point, has refused to make that acknowledgement.

4. The creation of a nation of Palestine out of Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem robs the Arab world of an important tool in its war of attrition against Israel. As it stands, the West Bank and Gaza provide a terrorist army, a fifth column that is educated, nurtured and engineered for ONE purpose: Killing Israelis. The terrroist training camps are cheaper to fund and trainees are taught at the breast that Jews are evil, the descendents of ape and pigs and as such, there is no moral compunction about killing them.

5. The two-state solution may not be "radical," but it is extremely naive and foolish, because it ignores the openly, oft-stated goal of the Arab and Palestinian governments: The annihilation of Israel and the establishment of a nation of Palestine in its place. There is a map that hangs in the UN showing the goal of a Palestine nation with Israel nonexistent. That is the goal.

The Arab world might agree to a two-state solution only insomuch as it would be one step closer to the goal of completely dismantling the nation of Israel. It would not be a step toward peace, but rather a means of providing a stronger platform to continue their ongoing war of attrition against Israel.


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Amor,

Are you interested in the opinion of a group of world Politicians or God's will where Israel is concerned?

Peace,

Dave

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