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Yes, it was posted by me and I have to admit that I did word this very badly. My thought was that the Holy Spirit did not enter believers before Christ as He does in the Church age. He did not remain as He does today. Otherwise, Jesus would not of said that if He did not return to the Farther, then He would not be able to send the Helper.

Please accept my apologies for such a terrible explanation of my thoughts.

OK, glad that got cleared up -

Sorry I got the quotes mixed up . . . but well, it was confusing going through the quotes of quotes and . . . well, you know. . . .

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Seeker,

a non Believer does not walk with the Holy Spirit -

Before I was saved in 2001, I believed in God, yet I didn't FOLLOW in His footsteps. I can see now in retrospect that before I was saved, God certainly had His eye on me because for certain, there were situations I was in that called for serious outcomes...but yet it didn't happen.

But in no way can I say that I had a relationship with Jesus and I definitely didn't "hear" or "know" the Holy Spirit's promptings and guidance until after my serious commitment and lifechanging salvation.

Of course before I was saved, I knew right from wrong and knew that I was doing something that I ought not to do - maybe this is where you feel that the Holy Spirit is with nonBelievers.

When I was a non-believer I did the right thing. I never knew at the time that Christians believed that Jesus is God (and I grew up in a Christian church). I just loved God and walked in the Spirit.

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Seeker,

a non Believer does not walk with the Holy Spirit -

Before I was saved in 2001, I believed in God, yet I didn't FOLLOW in His footsteps. I can see now in retrospect that before I was saved, God certainly had His eye on me because for certain, there were situations I was in that called for serious outcomes...but yet it didn't happen.

But in no way can I say that I had a relationship with Jesus and I definitely didn't "hear" or "know" the Holy Spirit's promptings and guidance until after my serious commitment and lifechanging salvation.

Of course before I was saved, I knew right from wrong and knew that I was doing something that I ought not to do - maybe this is where you feel that the Holy Spirit is with nonBelievers.

When I was a non-believer I did the right thing. I never knew at the time that Christians believed that Jesus is God (and I grew up in a Christian church). I just loved God and walked in the Spirit.

If you loved God then you must have believed in God eventhough you say you didn't know Jesus is God, yes? Then by definition you were NOT an un Believer.


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Since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities


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'Seeker100'

Okay well it is how one defines it. I was a believer in God at the time but I was not a believer in Jesus. I did not know that Jesus was thought of as God.

I still nontheless walked in the Spirit.

Can you clarify the red text for me please? I'm not getting it.

You went to Church as a child and believed in God but did not believe in Jesus - what does that mean?

Even though you didn't know Jesus was God, you still didn't believe in Jesus?

I'm not computing.

Maybe you simply mean - " I believed in God AND Jesus but didn't know Jesus was God."....Correct?


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'Seeker100'

Okay well it is how one defines it. I was a believer in God at the time but I was not a believer in Jesus. I did not know that Jesus was thought of as God.

I still nontheless walked in the Spirit.

Can you clarify the red text for me please? I'm not getting it.

You went to Church as a child and believed in God but did not believe in Jesus - what does that mean?

Even though you didn't know Jesus was God, you still didn't believe in Jesus?

I'm not computing.

Maybe you simply mean - " I believed in God AND Jesus but didn't know Jesus was God."....Correct?

Correct

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Seeker - there are two aspects of a persons walk in life - pre Salvation , post Salvation.

There is a huge difference.

Just because one believes in God doesn't equate to being led by the Holy Spirit - I'm sure the others here have already mentioned that.

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