What does it mean?

[Permie]

Here... maybe this can be rephrased:

The unborn baby has a soul.

The mother has a soul.

With me? There's two souls.

The mother carries the unborn child, whom has a soul.

The mother still has her own soul.

Is she not maintaining two souls?

Maintaining: caring for, nurturing, etc...

If the mother doesn't care for herself (maintain herself), what happens to the baby?

The answer is, no. The mother is not responsible for the soul of the child...techincally.

Technically speaking the baby's soul is not yet developed.

The soul is composed of the mind (the thinking part), the emotions (the feeling part), and the will (the moving part). Since unborn children are not developed fully then their souls are not fully developed.

I think your confusion lies between the division of the soul and spirit, and the proper identifications of each part. This is where we are not communicating.

This thread is not about the soul at all.

You appear to have made it that way...

Can you address the subjects of my first response to you?

Start a thread, if you want.

[Permie]

Could someone, within one post, concisely give a definition for these two words: soul, spirit

Thank you.

Gentlewind

Here we are on post #100 and no one has been able to identify/name the Spirit that God breathed into man to make us living souls.

I wish you the best of luck with your request. May I suggest a different thread though?

[Gentlewind]

Could someone, within one post, concisely give a definition for these two words: soul, spirit

Thank you.

Gentlewind

Here we are on post #100 and no one has been able to identify/name the Spirit that God breathed into man to make us living souls.

I wish you the best of luck with your request. May I suggest a different thread though?

Ummm. . . wouldn't that be His own spirit?

[Permie]

Could someone, within one post, concisely give a definition for these two words: soul, spirit

Thank you.

Gentlewind

Here we are on post #100 and no one has been able to identify/name the Spirit that God breathed into man to make us living souls.

I wish you the best of luck with your request. May I suggest a different thread though?

Ummm. . . wouldn't that be His own spirit?

That's how I read it.

[Ovedya]

Could someone, within one post, concisely give a definition for these two words: soul, spirit

Thank you.

Gentlewind

Here we are on post #100 and no one has been able to identify/name the Spirit that God breathed into man to make us living souls.

I wish you the best of luck with your request. May I suggest a different thread though?

Ummm. . . wouldn't that be His own spirit?

That's how I read it.

Then you read it wrong...and it has been shown to you that it was not the Spirit of God, the Holy Spirit, that was breathed into man. Somehow you are conveniently missing the evidence presented to you.

[Ovedya]

Here... maybe this can be rephrased:

The unborn baby has a soul.

The mother has a soul.

With me? There's two souls.

The mother carries the unborn child, whom has a soul.

The mother still has her own soul.

Is she not maintaining two souls?

Maintaining: caring for, nurturing, etc...

If the mother doesn't care for herself (maintain herself), what happens to the baby?

The answer is, no. The mother is not responsible for the soul of the child...techincally.

Technically speaking the baby's soul is not yet developed.

The soul is composed of the mind (the thinking part), the emotions (the feeling part), and the will (the moving part). Since unborn children are not developed fully then their souls are not fully developed.

I think your confusion lies between the division of the soul and spirit, and the proper identifications of each part. This is where we are not communicating.

This thread is not about the soul at all.

You appear to have made it that way...

Can you address the subjects of my first response to you?

Start a thread, if you want.

No, I won't. Address them here, please. They are pertinent to the discussion.

[Matthitjah]

Could someone, within one post, concisely give a definition for these two words: soul, spirit

Thank you.

Gentlewind

Here we are on post #100 and no one has been able to identify/name the Spirit that God breathed into man to make us living souls.

I wish you the best of luck with your request. May I suggest a different thread though?

Grace to you,

Actually, it's been presented to you repeatedly both here and in other threads. You've merely refused the information in preference of a private interpretation.

God breathed life into Adam not His Holy Spirit.

The Word used in Genesis 2 for "breath of life" is not even the same word used for God's Holy Spirit.

Peace,

Dave

[nebula]

The word "spirit" can have various meanings:

1. the principle of conscious life; the vital principle in humans, animating the body or mediating between body and soul.

2. the incorporeal part of humans: present in spirit though absent in body.

3. the soul regarded as separating from the body at death.

4. conscious, incorporeal being, as opposed to matter: the world of spirit.

5. a supernatural, incorporeal being, esp. one inhabiting a place, object, etc., or having a particular character: evil spirits.

6. a fairy, sprite, or elf.

7. an angel or demon.

8. an attitude or principle that inspires, animates, or pervades thought, feeling, or action: the spirit of reform.

9. (initial capital letter) the divine influence as an agency working in the human heart.

10. a divine, inspiring, or animating being or influence. Num. 11:25; Is. 32:15.

11. (initial capital letter) the third person of the Trinity; Holy Spirit.

12. the soul or heart as the seat of feelings or sentiments, or as prompting to action: a man of broken spirit.

13. spirits, feelings or mood with regard to exaltation or depression: low spirits; good spirits.

14. excellent disposition or attitude in terms of vigor, courage, firmness of intent, etc.; mettle: That's the spirit!

15. temper or disposition: meek in spirit.

16. an individual as characterized by a given attitude, disposition, character, action, etc.: A few brave spirits remained to face the danger.

17. the dominant tendency or character of anything: the spirit of the age.

18. vigorous sense of membership in a group: college spirit.

19. the general meaning or intent of a statement, document, etc. (opposed to letter ): the spirit of the law.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/spirit

So the question is which definition is meant when the word "spirit" is given. It does not always mean the Holy Spirit, or the Spirit of God.

As I meantioned previously twice, which got bypassed twice, in Hebrew the word for spirit actually means "breath" or "moving air".

(More translation of the work ruwack here)

Gen. 2:7 - Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

The word "breath" here is the Hebrew word neshamah, not ruwack - see here

So to say that God's breath in man to give him life means 'God's spirit (or Spirit) is in man' is a misunderstanding of the Hebrew language.

[Matthitjah]

The word "spirit" can have various meanings:

1. the principle of conscious life; the vital principle in humans, animating the body or mediating between body and soul.

2. the incorporeal part of humans: present in spirit though absent in body.

3. the soul regarded as separating from the body at death.

4. conscious, incorporeal being, as opposed to matter: the world of spirit.

5. a supernatural, incorporeal being, esp. one inhabiting a place, object, etc., or having a particular character: evil spirits.

6. a fairy, sprite, or elf.

7. an angel or demon.

8. an attitude or principle that inspires, animates, or pervades thought, feeling, or action: the spirit of reform.

9. (initial capital letter) the divine influence as an agency working in the human heart.

10. a divine, inspiring, or animating being or influence. Num. 11:25; Is. 32:15.

11. (initial capital letter) the third person of the Trinity; Holy Spirit.

12. the soul or heart as the seat of feelings or sentiments, or as prompting to action: a man of broken spirit.

13. spirits, feelings or mood with regard to exaltation or depression: low spirits; good spirits.

14. excellent disposition or attitude in terms of vigor, courage, firmness of intent, etc.; mettle: That's the spirit!

15. temper or disposition: meek in spirit.

16. an individual as characterized by a given attitude, disposition, character, action, etc.: A few brave spirits remained to face the danger.

17. the dominant tendency or character of anything: the spirit of the age.

18. vigorous sense of membership in a group: college spirit.

19. the general meaning or intent of a statement, document, etc. (opposed to letter ): the spirit of the law.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/spirit

So the question is which definition is meant when the word "spirit" is given. It does not always mean the Holy Spirit, or the Spirit of God.

As I meantioned previously twice, which got bypassed twice, in Hebrew the word for spirit actually means "breath" or "moving air".

(More translation of the work ruwack here)

Gen. 2:7 - Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

The word "breath" here is the Hebrew word neshamah, not ruwack - see here

So to say that God's breath in man to give him life means 'God's spirit (or Spirit) is in man' is a misunderstanding of the Hebrew language.

Exactly dear sister.

[traveller]

Exactly