prophesy vs. false prophesy

[~Shalhevet~]

I believe in prophets. I believe they exist today. I believe God can give people visions. BUT

Recently I've been going to a charismatic church. My impression after four visits is as skeptical now as it was the first day I came to the Bible study. In this group of people, everybody seems to be a prophet or have a spiritual gift of some sort that they aren't afraid to talk about. This is okay. People have gifts. People see visions BUT

Is everybody a prophet? How often do we have to be correct? I thought we had to be correct 100% of the time. So if these people are not correct with one of their visions doesn't that make them a false prophet?

Serious stuff. Unfortunately, I don't think these people take it very seriously. In fact, I have a feeling they just blurt out whatever comes to their tongue at the moment and assume it's from God when it is only their own human premonition.

I believe in prophets. I believe they exist. I have had visions of my own....BUT

I am VERY hesitant to share my prophesy because I do not know 100% that it is from God. I know that Satan has the power to intervene. And that is enough for me to hold my tongue. What they say does not match up with scripture. What they say is not 100% accurate. But what do you do?

Why do these people need all this supernatural healing and spiritual gifts to feel God? I mean, these things are good and real but I think in this case people have taken it too far, abandoned the truth, and serve themselves. I have a feeling that this church is in danger and has been attacked by the enemy. You want to hear something really supernatural? While one woman was false prophesying to me about a vision that she had about me, the holy spirit Himself came into me and did not let me hear all of what she had to say. This same thing occurred when the pastor placed his hands on me and proclaimed to have some psychic ability. The holy spirit's supernatural power deafened me. How is that for spiritual warfare? Our God PROTECTS!!

I went to one of their services on Sunday just to check it out. Was deeply saddened by their love of each other...obsession of each other...human worship. I'm afraid that's what it is. And the little devil almost got me again. I became jealous of their gifts, their healing, their prophesies, tongues and supernatural power. I started to think that I'm not special. God doesn't love me as much as he loves these people. Because these people have real gifts. I have, well, no gifts. But God heard my cry and I can see this for what it really is. Our God opens are eyes!!

So tell me. What would you do if you were in my situation? Would you walk away or tell these people they are wrong?

[Fez]

I get your point, when someone says to me "brother I feel God has this message for you" I am always very careful. If God has a message for me, I guess He is going to tell me directly 99.9% of the time. What the person is often saying is "I want to tell you something, and I will hide behind God in order that I hold no responsibility for what I am about to say".

I would much rather a person said outright, "I need to tell you something"...

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

It sounds like the Lord is already leading you dear sister.

Peace,

Dave

[~Shalhevet~]

Grace to you,

It sounds like the Lord is already leading you dear sister.

Peace,

Dave

Yes, He is!

[MorningGlory]

I would pray God's healing for them and then, walk away. This type of thing is not of God and it seems you have realized that already. You can find a church more in line with the Bible, Or'el; you will be much happier and a better servant for the Lord.

[Fez]

However......

"We are all at times unconscious prophets" - Charles Spurgeon

When we walk His walk in humility....

[~Shalhevet~]

It is bittersweet because I enjoy the fellowship. I will start looking for a new Bible study next week. I thought I could avoid their tactics or maybe get used to them after awhile but I sit in study constantly on edge. Someone is telling me to run out of that place but at the same time I feel like maybe they need me? Maybe they need someone to bring them back to being human again?

[wyguy]

What more prophecy do we need? We have all we require in the Bible.

Next time someone pulls that, "I've got a prophecy" stuff, tell them, Biblically, you are allowed to stone them if their prophecy turns out to be false.

[~Shalhevet~]

What more prophecy do we need? We have all we require in the Bible.

Next time someone pulls that, "I've got a prophecy" stuff, tell them, Biblically, you are allowed to stone them if their prophecy turns out to be false.

Amen!!

[Miss Elly]

I believe in prophets. I believe they exist today. I believe God can give people visions. BUT

Recently I've been going to a charismatic church. My impression after four visits is as skeptical now as it was the first day I came to the Bible study. In this group of people, everybody seems to be a prophet or have a spiritual gift of some sort that they aren't afraid to talk about. This is okay. People have gifts. People see visions BUT

Is everybody a prophet? How often do we have to be correct? I thought we had to be correct 100% of the time. So if these people are not correct with one of their visions doesn't that make them a false prophet?

Serious stuff. Unfortunately, I don't think these people take it very seriously. In fact, I have a feeling they just blurt out whatever comes to their tongue at the moment and assume it's from God when it is only their own human premonition.

I believe in prophets. I believe they exist. I have had visions of my own....BUT

I am VERY hesitant to share my prophesy because I do not know 100% that it is from God. I know that Satan has the power to intervene. And that is enough for me to hold my tongue. What they say does not match up with scripture. What they say is not 100% accurate. But what do you do?

Why do these people need all this supernatural healing and spiritual gifts to feel God? I mean, these things are good and real but I think in this case people have taken it too far, abandoned the truth, and serve themselves. I have a feeling that this church is in danger and has been attacked by the enemy. You want to hear something really supernatural? While one woman was false prophesying to me about a vision that she had about me, the holy spirit Himself came into me and did not let me hear all of what she had to say. This same thing occurred when the pastor placed his hands on me and proclaimed to have some psychic ability. The holy spirit's supernatural power deafened me. How is that for spiritual warfare? Our God PROTECTS!!

I went to one of their services on Sunday just to check it out. Was deeply saddened by their love of each other...obsession of each other...human worship. I'm afraid that's what it is. And the little devil almost got me again. I became jealous of their gifts, their healing, their prophesies, tongues and supernatural power. I started to think that I'm not special. God doesn't love me as much as he loves these people. Because these people have real gifts. I have, well, no gifts. But God heard my cry and I can see this for what it really is. Our God opens are eyes!!

So tell me. What would you do if you were in my situation? Would you walk away or tell these people they are wrong?

Sadly, many well meaning people are completely in error - and worship the so-called gifts instead of the gifter. I wouldn't be jealous of their gifts, probably most of them are heavily annointed with their own human spirit. Many wouldn't know the real spirit of God if it knocked them in the head. First of all, God gives the gifts TO WHOM HE WILL, not to the entire church. You feel funny about a lot of it, because these people have deceived theselves into thinking they are surely God's chosen and they are operating in the carnal realm, not the spirit of God. Personally, I would not stay at that church. I feel pity for churches like that, it is so sad to see all the emphasis on the "supernatural" instead of salvation, healing and the fruits of the spirit. Will pray God leads you in the right direction.