did Jesus break the law?

[nebula]

As was pointed out, the ones bringing her to Jesus were breaking the Torah - for one cannot be caught in the act alone, and both were to be brought to . . . the priest!

Second law broken - they took her to Jesus (a rabbi) not to a priest.

(If the man doesn't understand the difference between a rabbi and a priest, yo might have to point out that the Lord appointed the descendants of Aaron (brother of Moses, of the tribe of Levi) to be priests. They were the true religious leaders in the days before the last Temple was destroyed. Rabbis were more or less the equivalent of Bible teachers back then.

[Guest yod]

At some point in time you may want to point out to your friend that the pharisee's only brought one of the guilty parties to be judged.

Adultery always involves 2 people....where was the other person???

I'm remembering from the news that a young woman was stoned to death in a muslim country after reporting being raped...nothing happened to the men.

Very good point.

Of course this man always has something to debate with me about. And I welcome him to ask questions but he can be a bit insulting at times. I know he doesn't think too highly of Israel and the Jews and this is a sensitive area for us so I try to avoid talking about that. Funny thing is yesterday while we were sitting at a table, my Jewish friend sat down next to us. So there's a muslim, a christian and a jew all at the same table. I thought that was really neat! The thing that made me mad was that my muslim friend told my jewish friend that THEY had more in common with their religion than jews and christians. I didn't even know how to RESPOND to that. He goes on to bash christianity again right in front of me. I never say anything bad about muslims. I definitely ponit out that they are wrong, but I don't insult them like that. Once again, I had to explain to him that not all christians are "corrupt" and not to single us out because that would be like me saying all muslims are terrorists. He can't seem to understand this.

I saved this post from someone who came on worthy only once that I know of

I am Admzaa and I am 46. I am from the UK and running a global campaign to pray for the collapse of the European Union, thus making Christianity relevant to a new generation - http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/ouk/ . I enclose below details of how Christians are bringing Muslims to Isa/Jesus. (Isa is the Arabic name for Jesus.) I do encourage you to read and share the information below with your fellow brothers and sisters. I do hope the moderators do allow this information to be posted because this apparently the only successful wat that we have found to win Muslims for Christ!

How to lead Muslims to Jesus (Below is a way that Kevin Greeson says is a successful way for bringing Muslims to Jesus

[Fez]

At some point in time you may want to point out to your friend that the pharisee's only brought one of the guilty parties to be judged.

Adultery always involves 2 people....where was the other person???

I'm remembering from the news that a young woman was stoned to death in a muslim country after reporting being raped...nothing happened to the men.

Very good point.

Of course this man always has something to debate with me about. And I welcome him to ask questions but he can be a bit insulting at times. I know he doesn't think too highly of Israel and the Jews and this is a sensitive area for us so I try to avoid talking about that. Funny thing is yesterday while we were sitting at a table, my Jewish friend sat down next to us. So there's a muslim, a christian and a jew all at the same table. I thought that was really neat! The thing that made me mad was that my muslim friend told my jewish friend that THEY had more in common with their religion than jews and christians. I didn't even know how to RESPOND to that. He goes on to bash christianity again right in front of me. I never say anything bad about muslims. I definitely ponit out that they are wrong, but I don't insult them like that. Once again, I had to explain to him that not all christians are "corrupt" and not to single us out because that would be like me saying all muslims are terrorists. He can't seem to understand this.

I saved this post from someone who came on worthy only once that I know of

I am Admzaa and I am 46. I am from the UK and running a global campaign to pray for the collapse of the European Union, thus making Christianity relevant to a new generation - http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/ouk/ . I enclose below details of how Christians are bringing Muslims to Isa/Jesus. (Isa is the Arabic name for Jesus.) I do encourage you to read and share the information below with your fellow brothers and sisters. I do hope the moderators do allow this information to be posted because this apparently the only successful wat that we have found to win Muslims for Christ!

How to lead Muslims to Jesus (Below is a way that Kevin Greeson says is a successful way for bringing Muslims to Jesus

[~Shalhevet~]

Wow JamiLea. Thanks for sharing that!

[EricH]

I know he came to fulfill the law not abolish it but it seems like here he put an end to stoning. Was he simply trying to tell us not to judge or was he telling us to do away with punishments?

Actually there was a ton more going on here. The law stipulated that both parties (man and woman) who were caught in adultery were to be taken outside the city and stoned. The text also tells us that she was caught in the act of adultery. If she was caught in the act, where was the man?

[MelodyCat]

The problem with the Muslims is their mindset is legailistic and they don't understand the concept of Forgivness.

Also they don't recognise Jesus as God.

Jesus being equal to God could forgive and show mercy to anyone He chose. A concept beyond the Muslim mindset.

Where is forgiveness/mercy shown in the Islamic Faith?? There is none, all laws must be enforced because they don't have a Saviour who paid for their sins with His own blood. No, Muslims must earn their way to Paradise and pay for their own sins.

So that is why a Muslim can't understand why Jesus let this woman go and didn't fullfil the law.

[Openly Curious]

2Co 5:21 MKJV

21 For He has made Him who knew no sin, to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

Nope .

[Guest LadyC]

Jesus didn't break the law... if He had condemned the woman to stoning, THEN He would have broken the law, because it was not His legal right to pronounce such a judgment. His accusers knew this. it was just one more way they were trying to trap Him.

[Rick-Parker]

It can be a dangerous proposition to debate muslims on the faith if one has little knowledge of scripture and it's meaning. Just a thought.

[~Shalhevet~]

It can be a dangerous proposition to debate muslims on the faith if one has little knowledge of scripture and it's meaning. Just a thought.

I know. I try to avoid discussions of faith with him but he always brings it up. The last debate was if Jesus was God. I printed off an entire page of proof that Jesus is God but he still doesn't believe me. I know I don't know a lot bu I try to answer as many questions as I can.