Can one be saved without repenting...

[e lansing]

So, eis - was your question answered?

Yes, some feel that you do not have to repent. Others believe that you have to repent.

I feel that you cannot be saved without repenting. Repenting is not a work, but it is a "doing".

For those who are of faith only, nothing else, one is saved without repentance because then they would be doing something.

The Bible is filled from cover to cover with Do's and Do Not's. If we have to do nothing to be christian, christianity is meaningless. So Jesus did nothing, Paul and Peter as well, Stephen got stoned for doing nothing because he was speaking and doing nothing. I guess all are going to heaven because Jesus died for all and thats it, there is no need to respond to the gift of salvation because we need not do anything. Maybe this is why we have christians who do things becauae they do have faith and christians who do nothing because they think they have faith. Just a wild guess.

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[Openly Curious]

'eis' date='Apr 20 2010,

I feel that you cannot be saved without repenting. Repenting is not a work, but it is a "doing"

Matthew 3:1-10; 9:13; 11:20-22, Luke 13:2-5; 15:7,10; Acts 11:18..........Repentance "UNTO" Salvation conveys the knowledge that you are "LOST" in sin, and you're alienated (seperated) from God (that you're not presently close to God and that you've never been close to Him. Because your sin has seperated you from Him)

2 Corinthians 5:11-21

To be reconciled to right relationship with God you have to get rid of the things that are coming between you and God not being able to walk in fellowship with one another because it is your "Sins" that keeps you seperated. It is like a married couple when they come to differences within their marriage to the point of where they have to separate from one another because of those differences. Many of the marriage couples will end in divorce because of their "unreconcilable" differences so the relationship cannot be reconciled to one another in their relationship.

It is our sins that are the differences between us and God. The blood of Christ is the "Only" thing that will remove our sins from us and restore the broken relationship and once again have fellowship with God as the differences (our sins are taken away).

2 Corinthians 7:10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.

A godly sorrow comes as the Spirit of the Lord works with inside your heart to the point where we come to repentance if we allow the Spirit to work in us. This type of repentance is "NOT" to be repented of because it was God you allowed to work in your heart causing you to repent. We all need to let godly sorrow work in our hearts being sensitive.

But it speaks about the sorrow of the world worketh death. The sorrow of the world is like you do something bad and you may be really sorry for what you done so you apologize for your wrong. Then after this you turn around and repeat the process, do it again say, your sorry and you truly may be sorry but the sorrow of the world cannot wash your sins away and this kind of worldly sorrow only leads to death being eternal damnation (see Galatians 6:7-10)

[enoob57]

So, eis - was your question answered?

Yes, some feel that you do not have to repent. Others believe that you have to repent.

I feel that you cannot be saved without repenting. Repenting is not a work, but it is a "doing".

For those who are of faith only, nothing else, one is saved without repentance because then they would be doing something.

The most personal is that which is within:

I would like to add- it is a real response to the reality of God's truth entering into your being!

For the first time you are introduced (within) to The Truth of Christ who is (I Am the way, I Am the truth, I Am the life)

you see yourself as you truly are seen by God. That is true repentance!

2 Tim 2:25-26

25 in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth,

26 and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.

NKJV

Love Steven

[Guest shiloh357]

So, eis - was your question answered?

Yes, some feel that you do not have to repent. Others believe that you have to repent.

I feel that you cannot be saved without repenting. Repenting is not a work, but it is a "doing".

For those who are of faith only, nothing else, one is saved without repentance because then they would be doing something.

Which shows that you have not really read the responses of the those you keep accusing of claiming that there is nothing to do to be saved. Either that, or you refuse to be honest about what we have said.

[eis]

So, eis - was your question answered?

Yes, some feel that you do not have to repent. Others believe that you have to repent.

I feel that you cannot be saved without repenting. Repenting is not a work, but it is a "doing".

For those who are of faith only, nothing else, one is saved without repentance because then they would be doing something.

Which shows that you have not really read the responses of the those you keep accusing of claiming that there is nothing to do to be saved. Either that, or you refuse to be honest about what we have said.

Friend, I went back and re-read the posts. My summation fits. Please feel free to sum them up the way that you wish to spin it.

[Fez]

I think it is very simple question to answer.

Face God and sin is at your back, you have repented of it. Face sin and God is behind you, you have not repented.

You cannot face God without repentance.

[Guest shiloh357]

So, eis - was your question answered?

Yes, some feel that you do not have to repent. Others believe that you have to repent.

I feel that you cannot be saved without repenting. Repenting is not a work, but it is a "doing".

For those who are of faith only, nothing else, one is saved without repentance because then they would be doing something.

Which shows that you have not really read the responses of the those you keep accusing of claiming that there is nothing to do to be saved. Either that, or you refuse to be honest about what we have said.

Friend, I went back and re-read the posts. My summation fits. Please feel free to sum them up the way that you wish to spin it.

I have demonstrated in the past that "doing something" is not the same as performing a work. The "work" was done on the cross. YOU have nothing to add to it. Yes, we must "do something." We must receive the gift by faith alone. Work creates a result or produces an effect. Work provides wages. No one said that we have nothing to do. All we said is that we have no "works" that contribute to effecting salvation.

Your arguments incorectly frame the debate. We say that we are saved by Christ alone. You accuse of saying that we are saved by faith alone. Faith does not save; Jesus saves. Salvation is already in the earth. Salvation is already a done deal. Salvation is not produced by our faith. That would make faith the object of our faith. What we are saying is that Christ alone is the obect of our faith.

To claim that works are necessary for salvation is a direct contradiction of Scripture:

Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. (Rom 3:28)

And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness,

(Rom 4:5)

yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.

(Gal 2:16)

Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

(Tit 3:5)

Your view makes works the object of faith and not Christ. That is why your position falls outside genuine Christianity and leaves you outside of Christ.

[Guest lovinghim4ever]

"For by grace you have been saved through FAITH;

and that not of yourselves:

it is the gift of God" (Ephesians 2:8).

Yes, JESUS saves us through the FAITH we have in Him and what He did for us on the cross!

That's my summation for what it's worth.

[Massorite]

If we are saved by faith(in Christ) only, can one be saved without repenting of sin?

I never got a really good answer before.

The answer is NO! Why? Because asking for forgiveness is not enough by its self. The word "Repent" means "To turn from" and in this case it is talking about turning from a life without Christ in it which is full of forgiven sin. To continue committing sin the same way and in the same frequency as you did before you asked for forgiveness shows that a new mind and an atmosphere of innocence is not present in your life. In other words there is no evidence of a change in your life and that is always what happens when one is truly saved.

[Guest lovinghim4ever]

If we are saved by faith(in Christ) only, can one be saved without repenting of sin?

I never got a really good answer before.

The answer is NO! Why? Because asking for forgiveness is not enough by its self. The word "Repent" means "To turn from" and in this case it is talking about turning from a life without Christ in it which is full of forgiven sin. To continue committing sin the same way and in the same frequency as you did before you asked for forgiveness shows that a new mind and an atmosphere of innocence is not present in your life. In other words there is no evidence of a change in your life and that is always what happens when one is truly saved.