WN: IDF: Soldiers were met by well-planned lynch in Gaza waters - Jer

[nebula]

These were obviously not peaceful protestors; my guess is that they are terrorists recruited by Hamas.

Pro-palestinian protesters. Hardly peaceful nor neutral.

OK, I'm confused. Israeli soldiers that are pro-palestinian? Why?

Pause and reflect a little here .

The so called humanitarian ship was harboring pro-Palestinian protesters. Why would it make sense that an Israeli soldier would be a pro-Palestianian protester?

I didn't understand it either!

Shiloh -

MG and andy were talking about the people aboard the boats, not the Israeli soldiers.

I'm not seeing what you are reading?

[~candice~]

These were obviously not peaceful protestors; my guess is that they are terrorists recruited by Hamas.

Pro-palestinian protesters. Hardly peaceful nor neutral.

OK, I'm confused. Israeli soldiers that are pro-palestinian? Why?

Pause and reflect a little here .

The so called humanitarian ship was harboring pro-Palestinian protesters. Why would it make sense that an Israeli soldier would be a pro-Palestianian protester?

I didn't understand it either!

I'm saying if you took the time to pause and reflect it would have been immediately obvious that it was those on board the aid ship that were pro-palestinian protestors, not that Israeli soldiers were pro-palestinian protesters [this is so bizarro it doesn't even require consideration].

[Shiloh62]

These were obviously not peaceful protestors; my guess is that they are terrorists recruited by Hamas.

Pro-palestinian protesters. Hardly peaceful nor neutral.

OK, I'm confused. Israeli soldiers that are pro-palestinian? Why?

Pause and reflect a little here .

The so called humanitarian ship was harboring pro-Palestinian protesters. Why would it make sense that an Israeli soldier would be a pro-Palestianian protester?

I didn't understand it either!

Shiloh -

MG and andy were talking about the people aboard the boats, not the Israeli soldiers.

I'm not seeing what you are reading?

OK, thanks, I got confused. I should have read it better.

[amor]

You have to understand that most Israelis DO WANT PEACE! and for the record, so do most of the palestinians, except that they have leaders who lead them by fear of death if they don't follow.

Now, if the world would see this, they would get together and do something about the militant, fanatic terror groups who are at the base of all this mid-east unrest.

Does the world see this? NO! they see oil and Petro-Dollars! political tactics and strategy is the name of the game. No one gives a hoot about the Palestinian Refugees, including or should I say especially, their so-called "Brothers"?

Whew.....I think I'll go pray. Makes a lot more sense than long useless monologs

I'm quite aware that most Israelis and Palestinians do want peace. i've made the point elswhere on this board. Hamas are a problem, but so is Netanayhu. He's done little to help the process and much to weaken those who do.

[hupo]

I'm quite aware that most Israelis and Palestinians do want peace. i've made the point elswhere on this board. Hamas are a problem, but so is Netanayhu. He's done little to help the process and much to weaken those who do.

I disagree with you.

Netanyahu is nowhere near perfect but to put him on the same level as Hamas shows very little understanding of the situation

The Western world need to wake up to the fact that radical Islam is a world threat. It is not Israel's problem alone.

We happen to be smack in the middle of what radical Islam sees as it's holy land

The Palestinians in Gaza or anywhere else are just pawns in this game. Their "Muslim brothers" don't give a damn about them!

All those refugee camps are an invention to keep the war going till radical Islam takes over. They could have been done away with years ago.

Now aren't those refugees usefull? You must admit it's quite a brilliant strategy. But we know satan is very clever.

If the world doesn't wake up, we will be facing a new and terrifying empire

Radical Islam is using every dirty trick in the book, and then some, to fullfil it's goal.

Satan at it's best, and if you or anyone think Israel is the problem, you may very soon have to face a very dark reality

The one thing that gives hope is that we know who is really in control

Amor, don't waste your time blaming Israel. That is not where the problem is. Save your energy for the day of the Lord

[MorningGlory]

You have to understand that most Israelis DO WANT PEACE! and for the record, so do most of the palestinians, except that they have leaders who lead them by fear of death if they don't follow.

Now, if the world would see this, they would get together and do something about the militant, fanatic terror groups who are at the base of all this mid-east unrest.

Does the world see this? NO! they see oil and Petro-Dollars! political tactics and strategy is the name of the game. No one gives a hoot about the Palestinian Refugees, including or should I say especially, their so-called "Brothers"?

Whew.....I think I'll go pray. Makes a lot more sense than long useless monologs

I'm quite aware that most Israelis and Palestinians do want peace. i've made the point elswhere on this board. Hamas are a problem, but so is Netanayhu. He's done little to help the process and much to weaken those who do.

Netanyahu is a great man; I've been an admirer of his for years. He is in no way on par with Hamas.

[Guest shiloh357]

You have to understand that most Israelis DO WANT PEACE! and for the record, so do most of the palestinians, except that they have leaders who lead them by fear of death if they don't follow.

Now, if the world would see this, they would get together and do something about the militant, fanatic terror groups who are at the base of all this mid-east unrest.

Does the world see this? NO! they see oil and Petro-Dollars! political tactics and strategy is the name of the game. No one gives a hoot about the Palestinian Refugees, including or should I say especially, their so-called "Brothers"?

Whew.....I think I'll go pray. Makes a lot more sense than long useless monologs

I'm quite aware that most Israelis and Palestinians do want peace. i've made the point elswhere on this board. Hamas are a problem, but so is Netanayhu. He's done little to help the process and much to weaken those who do.

This is intellectually dishonest and is also a false statement of fact. Netahyahu is not even remotely comparable to Hamas. Hamas is a bloodthirsty terrorist organization that is bent on destroying Israel. They have no respect for human life and view the lives of their own people as an expendable commidity whenever they choose. They waste the lives of innocent children as cannon fodder and use the most vulnerable of their own community as human shields and deny much needed medical care and humanitarian aid to their own people so that they can use those supplies to buy weapons.

Netanyahu, for all of his flaws and foibles does not come anywhere close to Hamas. Netanyahu opposes much the international community sees as necessary for peace, because Netanyahu sees more clearly, the real dynamics of this conflict and why the current "two-state solution" people like you so slavenly advocate will simplly not work and will never be workable.

In truth it is people like you that weaken any hope for peace. You are so quick to lay the blame at Israel's doorstep and you completely ignore the incredible risks and numerous concessions that Israel has made in a sincere desire peace. You are incapable of being truly honest about this conflict and in fact, you are part of the problem. It is people like you that muddy waters and try to make Israel out to be morally equivalent to the terrorists, when any real examination of the facts shows otherwise.

You are too dishonest about what is really going on to have anything to offer this debate that has any real intellectual weight. You don't belong in the conversation until you can be honest about the serious strides and sincere gestures Israel has made for peace.

[Arthur Durnan]

Just their very chanting on board those pro-Muslim "aid boats" of "Remember Khaibar, Khaibar, Oh Jews. The army of Muhammad will return!" must serve to "spill the beans" re the flotilla's real intention. What's even slightly "humanitarian" re metal bars, knives, axes and even guns? Zip indeed! The "aid boats" were part of the IHH with extensive & dovcumented ties to terrorist groups. If Israel had permitted free passage to Hamas-controlled Gaza, the next "aid boats" would be carrying weapons of all sorts including rocket parts, bomb-making material & whatever else can be used to kill Jews in southern Israel. I personally admire Israeli P.M. Benjamin Netanyahu, He is the real humanitarian in this episode. His brother, Jonathan, was slain defending liberty for innocent hi-jacked people in Uganda a few years back. In our books, P.M. Netanyahu is the correct individual to be heading Israel during crises. He is fully aware of Islamic desire to annihilate Israel & world Jewry even via "aid boats" filled with anti-Semites! WarLord Muhammad's seventh-century desire to murder Jews still reigns supreme today. Vigilance (and keen understanding) is always the price for liberty!

God Bless Israel!

God Bless America!

[Arthur Durnan]

And why not hearken to the chanting of mourners at Turkey's funeral procession for slain Muslim operatives......"We are all soldiers of Hamas!" and "Damn Israel!" Might it be a mite disingenuous to refer to those Muslim raiders as "Friendly Humanitarians"? Unflinchingly yes!

God Bless Israel!

God Bless America!

P.S. Constant vigilance is the price for liberty......and survival too!

[Ovedya]

The problem being that while the ship was in the exclusive economic zone, it was not in territorial waters, nor was it in the exclusion zone, for purposes of international law, it was in international waters

If that was the only problem, there would be no problem. You need to understand we are defending our lives here!

The US and western allies went all the way to Iraq, Afganistan etc to combat the terrorists. Do we have to stay home and wait for them to bomb us?

No one is saying we are perfect. We make mistakes same as everyone else. Trouble is we get blamed for anything we do to protect ourselves!!

That is not acceptable!

It's not acceptable for the Palestinians to live under the control and domination of a foreign power either. The proper, short term, solution would be for the Egyptians to open the border crossings allowing the Gazans to be freed from the Israeli stranglehold.

There needs to be much stronger international pressure on all parties to ensure the establishment of a free, independent and secure Palestine alongside a free independent and secure Israel (within its 1967 borders).

A good point was made by a columnist today regarding the supposed "stranglehold." It was this: Israel has the right to protect itself from threats. The international community did not complain when the U.S blockaded Germany & Japan and neither did it complain when John F. Kennedy ordered the interception of ship going to and from Cuba during the missile crisis. (full article: http://article.nationalreview.com/435513/i...es-krauthammer) Yet it complains, and calls Israel's actions criminal when ships are intercepted, prevented from shipping arms into Gaza. Why is that you suppose. Could it possibly be that the U.N. does not regard Israel as an ally, that the international community is hopelessly anti-Israel?

Palestine is hopelessly incapable of living peacefully alongside, or otherwise, with Israel. Especially not when you have a terrorist group lobbing missiles with impunity into Israeli neighborhoods from Gaza!