mizzdy Posted November 15, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 173 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,911 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 10 Joined: 03/21/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted November 15, 2010 This is rather controversial for most of what I know from this subject does not come mostly from scripture, but from other written sources and life experience in knowing people who are involved and myself being associated with demonic forces in my younger days.. So you can take it for what it's worth to you and it won't hurt my feelings at all. First of all there is a difference in Demons and fallen angels. Angels can take whatever form they seem to need to while in our fourth dimension. The Bible tells us that they are among us and as posted here we should treat strangers with respect for we do not know if they might actually be angels. Some angels in the old testament were more spiritual beings or light beings as some would day and others as those who went to Sodom to check out the evil there. Both good and bad are alive and well on planet earth today. Demons on the other hand are, as I have been told both in ancient writings and by more than one of them personally, the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim (pre flood cross between fallen angels and the daughters of Adam) who were killed in the flood. They are outcast beings who should have never been formed and there is nowhere for them to go until judgment day unless someone is prodded by the Holy Spirit to sent them into the abyss (bottomless pit) which not even Jesus himself did when he was here in the flesh. They roam the earth seeking a body to inhabit for they lost theirs in the flood. You can (in the name of Jesus) remove them from someone, but they will seek out something or someone else to indwell when they can. Like I said, that's quite controversial, and many people would disagree. Interesting thought. I've always believed that demons are all fallen angels, but I don't know. They could be disembodied spirits of the Nephilim. I Have dealt with many demonic things in my life, and have personally seen some. I have noticed when many manifest in someone they take on attributes like a serpent. I know that they are all directed by the hand of Satan, and we have victory over them through the blood of Jesus. When the flood came and destroyed everything the 'part' of the nephilim that couldn't or didn't die was the 'angelic' part which leads to the disembodied spirit or demon. There does seem to be different kinds of angels which Otherone speaks of in his posts, the host of heaven for example may be seen as different than the ones who come to man to speak to men or to do Gods bidding here on earth. The fallen angels are in chains, God certainly could have killed them all off along with the demon spirits but chose not to for reasons we do not understand some even say they cannot be killed off readily I'm not sure about that though. Its more than possible for those demonic spirits to be possessing and directing the leaders of this world right now and doing so by the leading of the adversary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted November 15, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Be careful about getting too caught up with "angels". Remember Todd Bentley and Emma? I was under the spiritual authority of someone who taught some radical things about angels - angelic enjoining (what became corrupted as demonic possession) being one of them. Whether or not she was on the right track I don't know, but the application sure got risque. But the Bible does not give us an Angelogy 101 course. I am sure what it reveals is only a glimmer. What we do know is that angels appeared as humans (i.e. to Lot and the women at the tomb) and as very unhuman (Ezekiel's vision and John's vision). We are given the names and specific roles of only two angels (Michael and Gabriel). We are told that angels are sent to us as messengers, that they engage in warfare, that they worship, and that they do at times protect us (a verse in Ps. 91). I do not discount experience and the Lord revealing things about angels to us. Just be careful, for there is a lot of deception and it is easy to misplace focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted November 15, 2010 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 15, 2010 My daughter had an experience with two angels, I believe. She was walking in the middle of the night on the highway (after a party she went to) and a transport truck stopped up ahead of her. Two men got out and grabbed her has she was going past. We would have never seen her again, of that I am sure. But out of no where a car came, two men got out of it, grabbed my daughter from the two truckers and put her in thier car. They asked her if she believed in God and told her that she was lucky he sent them in time to save her. They drove her home, and preached at her a little and were never seen again. Now maybe these weren't angels, but maybe they were. In my 63 years, I've heard many many stories of this nature, and I agree that most likely they are angels.... I wish I could prove it some way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted November 15, 2010 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 15, 2010 Be careful about getting too caught up with "angels". Remember Todd Bentley and Emma? I was under the spiritual authority of someone who taught some radical things about angels - angelic enjoining (what became corrupted as demonic possession) being one of them. Whether or not she was on the right track I don't know, but the application sure got risque. But the Bible does not give us an Angelogy 101 course. I am sure what it reveals is only a glimmer. What we do know is that angels appeared as humans (i.e. to Lot and the women at the tomb) and as very unhuman (Ezekiel's vision and John's vision). We are given the names and specific roles of only two angels (Michael and Gabriel). We are told that angels are sent to us as messengers, that they engage in warfare, that they worship, and that they do at times protect us (a verse in Ps. 91). I do not discount experience and the Lord revealing things about angels to us. Just be careful, for there is a lot of deception and it is easy to misplace focus. I agree Neb in that the Bible just gives us a small glimpse of angels. I could also warn people that if they really care to get involved in the angelic realm and do not know there Bible inside out, they can very easily be mislead into thinking the bad guys good and the good guys bad. Also the only angels that were locked up were the ones that messed with Adams daughters, and there are many many more that follow Satan that are not locked away. If the verse that says that Satan took a third of the stars with him when he's swept out of heaven is really speaking of dark side angels, then there will be millions of them. We'll see as it all comes together at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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