So Just How Old IS The Father Of The Human Race?

[other one]

I am new. I have not read this 17 page thread, but one thing caught my eye.

And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph,

This cannot be right. If Jesus' linage goes through Joesph, then He is not the Son of God. God made Mary pregnant with Jesus, not Joseph, so Jesus' linage has to go through Mary only.

It is my understanding from outside Bible writings that Joshph legally adopted Jesus. This makes him the legal son of Joseph and in line for the throne of David through the bloodline of Nathan. Genetically Jesus is the Son of God, and legally he is the son of Joseph who is of the bloodline of David through Nathan.. Mary is a decendent of Aaron which puts Jesus within the preist bloodline also

[anitarose]

I am new. I have not read this 17 page thread, but one thing caught my eye.

And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph,

This cannot be right. If Jesus' linage goes through Joesph, then He is not the Son of God. God made Mary pregnant with Jesus, not Joseph, so Jesus' linage has to go through Mary only.

It is my understanding from outside Bible writings that Joshph legally adopted Jesus. This makes him the legal son of Joseph and in line for the throne of David through the bloodline of Nathan. Genetically Jesus is the Son of God, and legally he is the son of Joseph who is of the bloodline of David through Nathan.. Mary is a decendent of Aaron which puts Jesus within the preist bloodline also

If you really look through Mary's bloodline, she comes of the line of David also. It divides around the Hasmonean dynasty (between the "testaments").

[Guest SDGS]

I am new. I have not read this 17 page thread, but one thing caught my eye.

And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph,

This cannot be right. If Jesus' linage goes through Joesph, then He is not the Son of God. God made Mary pregnant with Jesus, not Joseph, so Jesus' linage has to go through Mary only.

It is my understanding from outside Bible writings that Joshph legally adopted Jesus. This makes him the legal son of Joseph and in line for the throne of David through the bloodline of Nathan. Genetically Jesus is the Son of God, and legally he is the son of Joseph who is of the bloodline of David through Nathan.. Mary is a decendent of Aaron which puts Jesus within the preist bloodline also

Sorry but I don't accept "outside the bible" explanations. I only use the bible. Joseph may or may not have legally adopted Jesus but Jesus' linage has to only go through Mary, or He was not the Son of God. I have not done a linage on Mary but it has to go through her. "Legal" doesn't count.

[other one]

I am new. I have not read this 17 page thread, but one thing caught my eye.

And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph,

This cannot be right. If Jesus' linage goes through Joesph, then He is not the Son of God. God made Mary pregnant with Jesus, not Joseph, so Jesus' linage has to go through Mary only.

It is my understanding from outside Bible writings that Joshph legally adopted Jesus. This makes him the legal son of Joseph and in line for the throne of David through the bloodline of Nathan. Genetically Jesus is the Son of God, and legally he is the son of Joseph who is of the bloodline of David through Nathan.. Mary is a decendent of Aaron which puts Jesus within the preist bloodline also

Sorry but I don't accept "outside the bible" explanations. I only use the bible. Joseph may or may not have legally adopted Jesus but Jesus' linage has to only go through Mary, or He was not the Son of God. I have not done a linage on Mary but it has to go through her. "Legal" doesn't count.

You're certainly welcome to your opinion..... I was just sharing mine..... I hope I still have that privilige. Some people think that Luke's line is actually Mary's, but that isn't what it says.

[Guest SDGS]

We all have an opinion and that is a good thing.

But adopting doesn't make the child adopted, "blood". Adopted kids reach legal age all over the country and then seek their biological parents, be it for curiosity, a need for medical history, because legal doesn't matter.

I don't get why this is an issue. God made Mary pregnant. An Angel told Joseph not to reject her over it, and to marry her. Why are we arguing this? Jesus is God, and Mary's child. It is in the bible.

[Guest]

....Sorry but I don't accept "outside the bible" explanations. I only use the bible. Joseph may or may not have legally adopted Jesus but Jesus' linage has to only go through Mary, or He was not the Son of God. I have not done a linage on Mary but it has to go through her. "Legal" doesn't count....

Of Course Mary Is A Decendent Of King David

And it shall come to pass, when thy days be expired that thou must go to be with thy fathers, that I will raise up thy seed after thee, which shall be of thy sons; and I will establish his kingdom.

He shall build me an house, and I will stablish his throne for ever.

I will be his father, and he shall be my son: and I will not take my mercy away from him, as I took it from him that was before thee:

But I will settle him in mine house and in my kingdom for ever: and his throne shall be established for evermore. 1 Chronicles 17:11-14

And Of Course Woman Can Inherent

For Mahlal, Tirzah, and Hoglah, and Milcah, and Noah, the daughters of Zelophehad, were married unto their father's brothers' sons:

And they were married into the families of the sons of Manasseh the son of Joseph, and their inheritance remained in the tribe of the family of their father.

These are the commandments and the judgments, which the LORD commanded by the hand of Moses unto the children of Israel in the plains of Moab by Jordan near Jericho. Numbers 36:11-13

And Of Course Legal Counts

And in all the land of your possession ye shall grant a redemption for the land.

If thy brother be waxen poor, and hath sold away some of his possession, and if any of his kin come to redeem it, then shall he redeem that which his brother sold. Leviticus 25:24-25

And Of Course Jesus Is LORD

And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli, Luke 3:22-23

And Of Course Jesus Is Christ The Redeemer

Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Isaiah 7:14

And Of Course The LORD Jesus Christ Is Coming Back

And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one. Zackeriah 14:9

Of Course

And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: Romans 11:26

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Be Blessed Beloved Of The KING

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:

The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:

The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them. Numbers 6:24-27

Love, Joe

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Now compare the 2 genealogies of Jesus in Matthew 1:1-17 and Luke 3:23-38, and you'll discover an interesting bit of information. Matthew's account shows that Joseph descended through Solomon, the royal but cursed line, and his father is listed as Jacob. But in Luke 3:23 Joseph's father is called Heli, and the line is different all the way to Solomon's brother Nathan before joining Matthew's account at King David. It turns out that Heli was Mary's father and therefore Joseph's father in law. Both Mary and Joseph were descendants of King David.

Here's the tricky part. Mary had no brothers, and so was entitled to inherit her family's land as long as she married someone also descended from David. Joseph fit the bill and being in the royal line had a claim to the throne, but carried the blood curse. No biological son of his could ever legally qualify as Israel's king, but Joseph could secure both Mary's right of inheritance to her family's land, and her son's claim to David's throne.

When Mary accepted Joseph's offer of marriage she preserved her family's land and also made good her son's claim to the throne of Israel. Her son Jesus legally became Joesph's son as well. This made him an heir to the throne but since he wasn't Joseph's biological son, He escaped the curse. But He was a biological descendant of David's through his mother and therefore of the "house and lineage of David."This whole issue revolves around the facts that; a) God has bound Himself to His own laws, and b) He keeps His word. These are facts that should give you great comfort.

Hallelujah!

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And now you know the adult version.

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Amen!

[other one]

We all have an opinion and that is a good thing.

But adopting doesn't make the child adopted, "blood". Adopted kids reach legal age all over the country and then seek their biological parents, be it for curiosity, a need for medical history, because legal doesn't matter.

I don't get why this is an issue. God made Mary pregnant. An Angel told Joseph not to reject her over it, and to marry her. Why are we arguing this? Jesus is God, and Mary's child. It is in the bible.

This is the only other way I can see.

> If Heli was Joseph's father then how could he be Mary's father as well?

Or

> did I not catch something that might help me out here?

Clearly, Matthew 1 and Luke 3 offer different genealogies for Jesus. Only

when they arrive at King David do these two genealogies merge (Matt. 1:6;

Lk. 3:31).

Matthew 1:1-17 is the lineage of Joseph, through whom the kingly descent as

the "Son of David" was validated (Matt. 1:1). Luke 3:23-38 is a different

lineage - the flehsly lineage of Jesus through his mother, Mary. It records

the physical descent of Jesus from Mary, through David's son Nathan, and

finally through Adam (Lk. 23, 31, 38).

Luke 3:23 does not say that Heli is the father of Joseph. It says that

Jesus..."being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, the son of Heli,......"

While it was assumed (from every outward appearance) that Jesus was the

fleshly son of Joseph, he was in fact the descendant of Heli (due to being

born of a virgin, Lk. 1:30-35). Thus, Heli can only be the father of Mary,

Jesus's mother. (Jacob was the father of Joseph, Matt. 1:16).

Hope this clarifies the matter for you. Please write back if I can be of

further help.

Sincerely,

Joe Price

[MorningGlory]

We all have an opinion and that is a good thing.

But adopting doesn't make the child adopted, "blood". Adopted kids reach legal age all over the country and then seek their biological parents, be it for curiosity, a need for medical history, because legal doesn't matter.

I don't get why this is an issue. God made Mary pregnant. An Angel told Joseph not to reject her over it, and to marry her. Why are we arguing this? Jesus is God, and Mary's child. It is in the bible.

Amen! And welcome to Worthy, SDGS.

[Guest SDGS]

When Mary accepted Joseph's offer of marriage she preserved her family's land and also made good her son's claim to the throne of Israel. Her son Jesus legally became Joesph's son as well. This made him an heir to the throne but since he wasn't Joseph's biological son, He escaped the curse. But He was a biological descendant of David's through his mother and therefore of the "house and lineage of David."This whole issue revolves around the facts that; a) God has bound Himself to His own laws, and b) He keeps His word. These are facts that should give you great comfort.

This settles it for me.

I am guessing that it is obvious that I am new to this, and am learning.

[Guest]

I am guessing that it is obvious that I am new to this, and am learning.

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You Too?

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Praising

One thing have I desired of the LORD, that will I seek after; that I may dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to behold the beauty of the LORD, and to inquire in his temple. Psalms 27:4

Praising Jesus All Day Long

Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless his holy name. Psalms 103:1