Babylon the Great???

[other one]

Rev 2:12-13

12 "And to the angel of the church in Pergamum write:

The One who has the sharp two-edged sword says this: 13'I know where you dwell, where Satan's throne is;

NASB

[sdktlk]

Rev 2:12-13

12 "And to the angel of the church in Pergamum write:

The One who has the sharp two-edged sword says this: 13'I know where you dwell, where Satan's throne is;

NASB

Not to split hairs, but there is a distinction between Satan's throne and the synagogue of Satan. These "small" details are what causes such misunderstanding concerning the Scriptures. One must take care when handling the Word of God.

[Guest shiloh357]

Do you hate the Jew?

There is no Jew nor gentile.

Most of the people that call themselves Jews are descendants of the Khazars. They are completely unrelated to the ancient Judeans.

Is pure nonsense and has mostly been shown to be false. It is an old anti-Semitic theory that has been discarded into the dustbin where it belongs.

[MorningGlory]

Acts 7;43

Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.

and so it is they worship a fiqure of a star,the symbol of thier tabernacle.

They worship the beast whos symbol is that same very star.

Correct me if I'm reading wrong but are you talking about the Star of David?

[other one]

Acts 7;43

Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.

and so it is they worship a fiqure of a star,the symbol of thier tabernacle.

They worship the beast whos symbol is that same very star.

Correct me if I'm reading wrong but are you talking about the Star of David?

I don't know why they call that the star of David MG,, it came from Solomon.

[nebula]

Did you believe this before or after you decided Jerusalem was Babylon?

Do you know anything about Israel and it's government?

When I have more time, I will pull up some stuff for you.

I asked asked an Israeli about your claim: "The term "Knesset" is derived from the ancient Great Assembly or Great Synagogue (Hebrew: כְּנֶסֶת הַגְּדוֹלָה‎"

He said thus:

...the Knesset is derived from the root "to meet". It is a meeting place of the representives of the people. Yes, it is connected with the Knesset of old where the Pharisees (and others) sat. Many things in our life are connected with tradition and a people's collective memory.

The Knesset however, was NOT built for religious purposes. It is much like the parlament, congress etc that constitute the place where democracy is carried out in the western world.

Rothchild may have donated the money for building the Knesset, I wouldn't know, but that does not make him the ruler of the Knesset any more than Bill gates is the ruler of my personal computer.

True there are many orthodox religious Jews in the Knesset (Too many if you ask me) but they still only make up less than 20% of it. There has never been a religious government in Israel! In fact if that ever happens it will be close to a civil war!!

Our governments were all doing their best to run the country as an independent economic entity, much like any country does. We cannot be blamed for ruling the economic world and at the same time be blamed for living off the Western country's donations!! Someone around here needs to make up their mind.

If you ask me, I smell "hatred" in such accusations, something we are pretty used to, by the way...

[nebula]

Did you believe this before or after you decided Jerusalem was Babylon?

Do you know anything about Israel and it's government?

I read quite abit about the beast.Ive been interested in it even before I understood what it was.

I started understanding that Jerusalem was Babylon the great because I know the words of Jesus CAN NOT BE WRONG..

I started understading that the Israeli goverment was the beast when I realized the revelation of Jesus Christ is ment to be understood by Israelites.

Gentiles were never called Israelites in Scripture, not even the believers.

The Assemblies mentioned in Revelation were mostly Gentile. So I fail to see where your "Israelites" claim comes from.

But truly you are making claims about what Jesus said that are not what He said.

Even the KKK uses "the words of Jesus" to justify their actions.

And as I showed above, you have no understanding of the Israeli government.

And by the way, the Israelite who informed me of the Knesset likewise stated:

I don't see Jerusalem as having economic control of the world. Come now, 11 million ruling over some 6000 million?! Thanks for the compliment but we're not that good.

In fact, the way I see it, many who phrased it like this are obsessed with hatred for Israel or Jews in general. Nazis used it. Achmedinijad now uses it. This phrase has nothing to do with economics. It has everything to do with hatred and anti-semitism!

And again, you failed to explain what would make the merchants of the world mourn the destruction of Jerusalem. New York, Paris, China, Wall Street, etc. wouldn't even know a glitch had taken place in the world.

Not like this oil crunch we are experiencing on account of unrest in Libya and other Arab countries who actually do control the wealth of the nations in their "black gold."

[nebula]

Jesus is a jew?

Really?

He wasn't a Jew?

Really?

I never said he wasnt but Joe seems to thing he is.

Do you think Jesus is a jew?

He was born to a Jew, a descendant of King David.

Do you remember these words spoken to her:

32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: 33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end. (Luke 2)

How can He not be a Jew if David is His father (His physical genealogy)?

[nebula]

If you told an israeli that I said anything about Jerusalem ruling the economic world then you lied to him.I never said that.

What I did write about the great synagogue was copied from an encyclopedia.

I also never said anyabout Rothschild ruling over the knesset.

You are bearing false witness if you are saying that I said that.

I sent him your very words.

[MorningGlory]

You are bearing false witness if you are saying that I said that.

Drop the "bearing false witness" tact. Word games won't get you anywhere here.

This board is full of false witnesses and liers.

Theres no reason for me to stay here and share anything with you people .You are the rudest group I have ever seen on the internet and not worthy to bear the name of Jesus.I depart now and I bid you not God spped for you do not deserve it.

Hateful little anti-semite you are. B-bye!