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[ayin jade]

This came up in chat and led to an interesting discussion, so with that member's permission Im posting it on the boards.

Is gambling for a living, a sin?

Please support with scripture.

[WIP]

This came up in chat and led to an interesting discussion, so with that member's permission Im posting it on the boards.

Is gambling for a living, a sin?

Please support with scripture.

As far as I am aware there is no scripture that tells us not to gamble. If a person believes that it is a sin to gamble then it becomes sin for them Rom 14:23......whatever is not of faith is sin.

Thats my 2cents worth

Edited April 17, 2011 by WIP

[Isaiah 6:8]

Well if you can actually make a living from gambling, then its not really a gamble. Either your cheating or your playing poker and are really good at reading people, and bluffing. So then it comes to, is it wrong to play poker ?

[Guest]

This came up in chat and led to an interesting discussion, so with that member's permission Im posting it on the boards.

Is gambling for a living, a sin?

Please support with scripture.

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I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.

For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 1 Timothy 2:1-3

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Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?

(For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.

But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof. Matthew 6:31-34

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Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:

But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. Matthew 6:19-21

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You Bet Your Life

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:23

On A Sure Thing

Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever. Psalms 119:160

You Betcha~!

For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. Romans 10:11

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Be Blessed Beloved Of The KING

And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. Galatians 4:6

Love, Your Brother Joe

[enoob57]

This came up in chat and led to an interesting discussion, so with that member's permission Im posting it on the boards.

Is gambling for a living, a sin?

Please support with scripture.

1 Tim 6:6-10

6 Now godliness with contentment is great gain. 7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. 8 And having food and clothing, with these we shall be content. 9 But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition. 10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

NKJV

It serves no purpose but to gain riches through chance what profit is there to the work of these Hands to others around?

Matt 13:22-23

22 Now he who received seed among the thorns is he who hears the word, and the cares of this world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and he becomes unfruitful.

NKJV

You say this does not apply yet I have seen many destroyed by addiction to gambling are we not our brothers keeper?

Phil 2:1-4

2 Therefore if there is any consolation in Christ, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any affection and mercy, 2 fulfill my joy by being like-minded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind. 3 Let nothing be done through selfish ambition or conceit, but in lowliness of mind let each esteem others better than himself. 4 Let each of you look out not only for his own interests, but also for the interests of others.

NKJV

You say I am not weak here but then is it not the responsibility of the strong to uphold the weak?

Rom 15:1-6

15 We then who are strong ought to bear with the scruples of the weak, and not to please ourselves. 2 Let each of us please his neighbor for his good, leading to edification. 3 For even Christ did not please Himself; but as it is written, "The reproaches of those who reproached You fell on Me." 4 For whatever things were written before were written for our learning, that we through the patience and comfort of the Scriptures might have hope. 5 Now may the God of patience and comfort grant you to be like-minded toward one another, according to Christ Jesus, 6 that you may with one mind and one mouth glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

NKJV

We are to uphold the Spirit of Christ and Love not the world or the things in it and certainly not to focus on chance but purposed in mind on intent of Godliness... chance is seen only in two ways in Scripture one by determining God's Will in a matter / the other by taking the garment sewn for Christ in love as they crucified Him.... Which camp does the attainment of wealth through chance belong? May God bless the minds in determining this path! Love Steven

[Fez]

Difficult question to answer. Do we consider it work? He probably does, and it is probably hard work. What and how he does with it is more important?

I found this...

Pro 24:29 Say not, I will do so to him as he hath done to me: I will render to the man according to his work.

Pro 24:30 I went by the field of the slothful, and by the vineyard of the man void of understanding;

Pro 24:31 And, lo, it was all grown over with thorns, and nettles had covered the face thereof, and the stone wall thereof was broken down.

If this alludes to actual work, or spiritual work makes a difference I think.

If a Christian is doing it, and using what he is blessed with (for it is all the Lords, is it not), for the good, then maybe ok. As long as he is using Christian methods to do what he does?

But places like Vegas have so many temptations, and if he is good at it, the temptations increase because they are put there by the casino's to keep people like him there (they call people like him "Whales", and everything they ask for, accommodation, food, drink, women, cars, air tickets, etc, they get. A staff member is allocated to the one person, to cater for every need).

So I am not sure if gambling is a sin, (like anything it can lead to sin if it is not) but the peripherals that are on offer certainly are.

Just how strong are we to resist the temptation? That is why Paul says RUN AWAY!

[nebula]

I think enoob has the right idea. Since Scripture does not address it, we have to look at its fruit.

[~candice~]

I think we should all be very cautious before condemning gambling. Many of us take small risks with our money every day. For example, I invest in shares, for which there is no certain outcome. I take a measured risk, knowing the expected result but accepting that there is some randomness to it. Likewise when people invest in real estate. I think the principle of the bible is to be wise stewards of our money. Do not sink it into situations where there is excessive risk, but avoiding risk altogether by burying your money is also not a wise biblical idea.

[other one]

I would think that ones attitude about gambling would make a difference in whether or not it is a sin.

[Aleksander]

gambling potentially is:

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• by logical extension, distrusting God to provide, way of making money in case He does not provide all we need
  
• is rooted in greed, no? love of money is love of money, even if cause is or may seem noble
  
• by logical extension, a form of irresponsible stewardship; we were entrusted with everything we have, but gambling, since it involves risk of losing it(sometimes all of it), irresponsible stewardship
  
• by logical extension, a discontent with what God did provide, us wanting more
  

all in all, i think it is always better not to get involved with gambling in any way, no matter how noble or justifiable it may seem. a job that provides enough can be found. or start your own business.