The Message

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[~candice~]

The Message is not a translation, but one mans twisted understanding of the Bible with new age and gnosticism thrown in to make it a dangerous lie. Read this The Message.

I never read the Message book, so I can't make judgement on it.

Nothing personal against you 'Onelight' but I did click on the Message and I seen a bunch of hogwash, all it was is somebody bashing Masons and having no clue on what they were talking about.

There are plenty of other sites that highlight the errors in the Message. Or you can use biblegateway.com and look at them for yourself,try comparing the last say 8 verses of Ro 1 with NASB.

There are over 100 mistakes in the KJV. The message bible isn't meant to be a study bible. It's meant to simply "get the message of the gospel across."

The more Christian's gripe and complain about certain versions of the bible, the more unbelievers are likely to avoid Christianity like the plague!

I can't blame them! Christian's are obsessed with demonizing themselves!

Why don't you have a look at the verse I highlighted and comment on what the Message says compared to what the text should say?

[oldzimm]

The Message is not a translation, but one mans twisted understanding of the Bible with new age and gnosticism thrown in to make it a dangerous lie. Read this The Message.

I never read the Message book, so I can't make judgement on it.

Nothing personal against you 'Onelight' but I did click on the Message and I seen a bunch of hogwash, all it was is somebody bashing Masons and having no clue on what they were talking about.

There are plenty of other sites that highlight the errors in the Message. Or you can use biblegateway.com and look at them for yourself,try comparing the last say 8 verses of Ro 1 with NASB.

I used Biblegateway many times, Thanks Candice, I'll check it out.

[~candice~]

The Message is not a translation, but one mans twisted understanding of the Bible with new age and gnosticism thrown in to make it a dangerous lie. Read this The Message.

I never read the Message book, so I can't make judgement on it.

Nothing personal against you 'Onelight' but I did click on the Message and I seen a bunch of hogwash, all it was is somebody bashing Masons and having no clue on what they were talking about.

There are plenty of other sites that highlight the errors in the Message. Or you can use biblegateway.com and look at them for yourself,try comparing the last say 8 verses of Ro 1 with NASB.

I used Biblegateway many times, Thanks Candice, I'll check it out.

yvw

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Translations are called translations for a reason. I think what we tend to forget is that scripture did not originally come to us in English (whether Shakespearean or more modern). Therefore, even the best translations may get something wrong, considering that we might not fully understand the full implication of what something might mean in its original Hebrew or Greek. That isn't to say that there aren't good translations, but to say that one is completely accurate is I think a bit of a stretch. And, by accurate, I mean completely a one-to-one correlation between the languages, not inaccurate as in intent, as I think concepts and principles are more easily translated across time and place.

But, as far as sites which point out inaccuracies in one particular Bible or another, I think they promote one person's own views more than objective truth. Of course that's just my opinion.

[OneLight]

Then compare:

Romans 15:13 (NJKV) "Now may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that you may abound in hope by the power of the Holy Spirit."

Romans 15:13 (MSG) "Oh! May the God of green hope fill you up with joy, fill you up with peace, so that your believing lives, filled with the life-giving energy of the Holy Spirit, will brim over with hope! "

Question: What is meant by "God of green hope"?

Matthew 5:14 (NKJV) “You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden."

Matthew 5:14 (MSG) "Here's another way to put it: You're here to be light, bringing out the God-colors in the world. God is not a secret to be kept. We're going public with this, as public as a city on a hill."

Question: What is meant by "God-colors"?

By the way, my daughter is a Wiccan and they use this term.

Psalm 97:11 (NKJV) "Light is sown for the righteous, And gladness for the upright in heart."

Psalm 97:11 (MSG) "Light-seeds are planted in the souls of God's people, Joy-seeds are planted in good heart-soil."

Compare to the From gnostic writings:

The Gnostic Apostle Thomas: Chapter 11

Mani and the Pure Ones

Re Seeds of light > "...One of the Emissaries or Messengers sent by the Father to rescue the captive particles sets up a mechanism, a sort of conveyer belt, by which seeds of light are drawn up into the heavens and concentrated. They move up the Milky Way to the moon, and when that way-station becomes stuffed full (as anyone can see, it happens every four weeks), the accumulated store of light is then transferred to the sun, and the process begins anew."

The Gnostic Apostle Thomas: Chapter 4

Beyond the Law

"Establish in your Bridal chamber the seed of light. receive from me the bridegroom, and grasp him and be grasped by him. Behold the grace descends on you. ..."

Meditations: For Services of the Holy Sophia in the Month of March

... Let your power impart the true Gnosis to us and strengthen us in your wisdom and compassion so that we may lovingly gather the seeds of light from the sea of ..."

Psalm 27:1 (NKJV) "The LORD is my light and my salvation; Whom shall I fear? The LORD is the strength of my life; Of whom shall I be afraid?"

Psalm 27:1 (MSG) "Light, space, zest— that's God! So, with him on my side I'm fearless, afraid of no one and nothing."

Question: Where is the mention of salvation in the Message? What is meant by "space, zest"?

This is just the start. And, since when is the Masonic teachings that of Christ?

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There are over 100 mistakes in the KJV.

Don't let Butero see this!

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Matthew 5:14 (MSG) "Here's another way to put it: You're here to be light, bringing out the God-colors in the world. God is not a secret to be kept. We're going public with this,

I hope he's given the Newboys royalties for quoting from two of their songs!

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Then compare:

Romans 15:13 (NJKV) "Now may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that you may abound in hope by the power of the Holy Spirit."

Romans 15:13 (MSG) "Oh! May the God of green hope fill you up with joy, fill you up with peace, so that your believing lives, filled with the life-giving energy of the Holy Spirit, will brim over with hope! "

Question: What is meant by "God of green hope"?

Matthew 5:14 (NKJV)