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I think I know the answer, but the rest of you can decide for yourselves. Read the 10 quotes he made about Islam and the 10 quotes he made about Christianity.

I don't believe that any of these quotes show him to be Muslim and as he professes faith in Jesus Christ as his Savior, he is, by definition, Christian, whether we choose to accept his political stance or not.

Nicely put BFA.

I think a much more productive question is;

Am I a follower of Christ Jesus, and how can I walk more closely with Him?


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I do not know the man ( Obama ) well enough to answer the Question, in-fact, do any of us? What I think I know, may not be what really is. I trust in God and I know, that what I think at times does not matter, the only thing that really matters, is that GOD KNOWS, who we all are and what we are.


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Obama is a secular humanist at best.:thumbsup:

I would urge you all to look into Black Liberation Theology. Sister Jade gave a good post that sadly will be past over. Obama supposedly gave his life to Christ and was led to Christ by a man who preaches Black Liberation Theology. The question then would be, "What Christ was he baptised into and what Chris does he know?" "What Christ did he worship for over 20 years?"

Certainly not the one represented in the Bible who is God in the flesh.:thumbsup:

Mt 24:24

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; so that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Sadly, some here will tell us not to Judge. However, the Bible and Christ Himself tell us to Judge and to Judge Righteously. :thumbsup:

Joh 7:24

Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

Ps 94:20

Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with you, which frames mischief by a law?


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Answer:

NO!

Enigmatic :whistling:

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it occurs to me that when a person loves God with all their heart, who serves God in all they do, there is NOBODY who needs to ask "is this person a christian or "____"?. the answer is just obvious.


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Obama is a secular humanist at best.:thumbsup:

I would urge you all to look into Black Liberation Theology. Sister Jade gave a good post that sadly will be past over. Obama supposedly gave his life to Christ and was led to Christ by a man who preaches Black Liberation Theology. The question then would be, "What Christ was he baptised into and what Chris does he know?" "What Christ did he worship for over 20 years?"

Certainly not the one represented in the Bible who is God in the flesh.:thumbsup:

Mt 24:24

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; so that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Sadly, some here will tell us not to Judge. However, the Bible and Christ Himself tell us to Judge and to Judge Righteously. :thumbsup:

Joh 7:24

Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

Ps 94:20

Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with you, which frames mischief by a law?

Also Judge according the judgement you desire to be judged by. The problem is too many attempt to make themselves the mold that others should be judged by.

No, actually a Righteous Judgment will be rendered by Judging Righteously. Therefore, the Word will be our measure, "and you shall know them by their fruit."

Does a born again Christian support abortion/murder on demand in oppositon to the Word? Does a born again Christian support many paths to God in opposition to the Word? Does a born again Christian support Homosexual Marriage in opposition to the Word?

They might at the beginning of their journey with the Lord. However, Sanctification will take care of their very humanistic mindset and in time their views will change. Obama's views appear to be changing in the opposite direction. Puzzling, no?:noidea: He is now advocating full homosexual marriage through policy when he stated very clearly prior to his election to not support it. :blink:

Maybe he just said what some wanted to hear?:noidea:

We must aso examine the spirits.

1Jo 4:1

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

The spirit of Black Liberation Theology under which Obama made confession is not the Spirit of our Lord.

You're right. he may have made confession privately but Righteous Judgment and an examination of fruit seems to indicate that he hasn't.:thumbsup:

He appears to be at best a secular humanist which indicates that we are to Love him, speak the Truth in Love, and pray for him. However, we shouldn't embrace him as our brother and if we do we should offer him correction. If he doesn't hear us we should cast him from the Body.

Right now Obama has as a Spiritual advisor one Jim Wallis. I would urge anyone looking into Obama's Spiritual understanding to look into Collective Salvation which is right out of Black Liberation Theology as Sister Jade has clearly pointed out.:thumbsup:

We are to be Wise.:wub:

Peace,

Dave


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I think I know the answer, but the rest of you can decide for yourselves. Read the 10 quotes he made about Islam and the 10 quotes he made about Christianity.

I don't believe that any of these quotes show him to be Muslim and as he professes faith in Jesus Christ as his Savior, he is, by definition, Christian, whether we choose to accept his political stance or not.

Uh sorry. That's just absolute bull hooyah. The quotes tell me a lot. He supports people studying a religion OTHER than that of the One True and Living God, which by definition makes him a false prophet, leading his people (Americans) to worship a false god Allah. This alone tells me he is NOT a Believer. Matthijah points out in his post that Obama also supports publicly other forms of wickedness and uses his government position to foist them upon the people. Obama's religion is therefore that of Magog. (2 Thess 2)


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Oh, we talk about this at work sometimes. So, for my first post (and hello, everyone!):

#9 On his support for civil unions for gay couples: "If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount."

Just for kicks, I re-read the Gospel of Matthew, and I didn't find anything on civil unions for gay couples there. Perhaps I missed something? Unless he's referring to when Jesus said if you look upon a woman with lust, you've committed adultery? Well, he said nothing about looking at a man the same way, is that what Obama is saying? Or when Jesus said divorcing a woman for any reason except adultery is wrong, but said nothing about divorcing a man?

Maybe I'm spitballing here, but perhaps Obama doesn't really know what's in the Sermon at all.

He supports gay marriage

Actually, I know a number of gay community members who have told me they dislike Obama because he doesn't really support gay marriage, or won't. One of them said words to the effect that they find it ironic that Dick Cheney, by virtue of his daughter, supports them more in this issue than Obama does. But then, I think Obama's biggest problem is that he doesn't really seem to support anything at all except golfing. He strikes me as the type of guy who wanted to become president just so Disney would put up an audio-animatronic of him in the Hall of Presidents at Disneyworld.

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Answer:

NO!

Enigmatic :whistling:

:thumbsup:

Mr. Obama Is My President - Not My Redeemer

"What I believe in is that if I live my life as well as I can, that I will be rewarded. I don't presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die." (Barack Obama, April 2004)

http://www.godvoter....ian-Barack.html

For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:17-18

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Mr. Obama Is My President - Not My Pastor

"I am a Christian, and I am a devout Christian. I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe that that faith gives me a path to be cleansed of sin and have eternal life. But most importantly, I believe in the example that Jesus set by feeding the hungry and healing the sick and always prioritizing the least of these over the powerful." (Barack Obama Christianity Today, January 2008)

http://www.godvoter....ian-Barack.html

For there is no respect of persons with God. Romans 2:11

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Mr. Obama Is My President - Not My Hope

"I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people, that there are values that transcend race or culture, that move us forward, and that there’s an obligation for all of us individually as well as collectively to take responsibility to make those values lived." (Barack Obama, April 2004)

http://www.godvoter....ian-Barack.html

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6

~

Mr. Obama Is My President - Not My Teacher

"I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell. I can’t imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity. That’s just not part of my religious makeup." (Barack Obama: The 2004 "God Factor" Interview Transcript)

http://tentmaker.org.../obama-on-hell/

And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:

Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. Mark 9:47-48

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Mr. Obama Is My President - Not My Holy Bible

I’m a big believer in tolerance. I think that religion at it’s best comes with a big dose of doubt. I’m suspicious of too much certainty in the pursuit of understanding just because I think people are limited in their understanding.I think that – particularly as somebody who’s now in the public realm and is a student of what brings people together and what drives them apart – there’s an enormous amount of damage done around the world in the name of religion and certainty. (Barack Obama: The 2004 "God Factor" Interview Transcript)

http://tentmaker.org/blog1/obama-on-hell/

Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. Matthew 10:32-38

~

May The LORD God Save My President

If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.

For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.

A double minded man is unstable in all his ways. James 1:5-8

And May God Bless America

For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones. Isaiah 57:15

Love, Your Brother Joe

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Oh, we talk about this at work sometimes. So, for my first post (and hello, everyone!):

Welcome~!

You Sure Did Picked A Good And Quiet Topic To Put Your First Post In :24: :24: :24:

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