Neutrinos in CERN travled faster than speed of light!

[nebula]

viole, neutrinos are particles aren't they? We were talking about this at work and we assumed they are but no one knew enough about it to be sure.

Yes, they are sub-atomic particles.

They are smaller than electrons.

That should satisfy you until Viole comes back with a more detailed description.

[other one]

Oh, sorry Old Shep -

"Snork!" is a the expression used for the sound one makes when one laughs through their nose. (You laugh, but your mouth is closed, so the sound comes out your nose somewhat.)

Ususlly along with the coffee or soda you just tried to swollow. LoL

[sheya joie]

I've also seen it spelled snerk...

[Guest HisG]

I am not a science/physics/mathematics freak like some others here BUT I am very interested to see how this all pans out - what the final analysis will conclude.

Edited September 24, 2011 by HisG

[JohnD]

Barry Setterfield and Trevor Norman did a research paper that listed the various speed of light ( that is, c.) tests over some 500 years. As the years passed the experiments improved and the margin of error grew smaller. The thing that is amazing is that c. has been on a rather exponential decrease in that small amount of time (500 years) even beyond all margins of error. Tracking the decay of c. back 7,000 years or so, c. was as much as 10,000,000 times faster than the current velocity.

The evidence was too implicit of a young universe to be accepted in the bullied and badgered scientific community. The evolution overlords in science, education, and media were too well entrenched and fought so hard to force evolution on everyone to allow Setterfield's work to see the light of day and with much persecution. "Atoms can't this and cells won't that..." even on Christian boards you will find people who would rather crucify Setterfield than consider his work and the concrete evidence he shows. And now we see that c. can be surpassed proving that alleged barrier is no barrier at all.

Barry Setterfield web cite

[nebula]

Getting back on topic -

How does observing neutrinos traveling faster than the speed of light challenge Einstein's theory?

[nebula]

Ok, I see.

Except for one thing -

One has to actually be able to make something larger than a subatomic particle travel that fast for us to time travel, right?

[OldShep]

Ok, I see.

Except for one thing -

One has to actually be able to make something larger than a subatomic particle travel that fast for us to time travel, right?

Yes,

but it wold be theoretically possible to send messages to our past using neutrinos.

Gee that would be great if I could send a message to myself and say something like, OK dummy, what on earth are you thinking, don't even think about it.

[Guest agua]

Time travel is not possible, at least during my life time. I already arranged a meeting with my future self, but she did not turn up

Maybe she didn't want to meet you. : p

[nebula]

but it wold be theoretically possible to send messages to our past using neutrinos.

Well, if the CERN scientists ever get a message from the future from themselves . . . ?