Glenn Beck's plan to survive economic disaster and the nwo (questi

[Strader327]

Hey guys, I was wanting to ask you all some things regarding Glenn Beck. Specifically I want to talk about his disaster plan he recommends all Americans to do in case the economy were to crash and we were to end up in a one world government, quite possibly run by George Soros.

If this new world order does come about and if it so happens to be just like the one mentioned in the book of Revelation should we as mainstream protestant Christians do the kind of things Beck is telling everyone to do?

Things like investing in gold, storing up canned food, storing up guns, leaving big cities and moving to rural areas, growing our own food, or buying freeze dried lasgana pounches that are $500 + for about a months worth of food?!

It sounds fairly easy for families who are all dedicated conservaties and who make very good money. But for familes like mine who make around $50,000 a year or less and who are divided over politics (for example in my family me and one of my uncles are very conservative where as the rest of my family are moderate democrates).

But either way most of my family don't even know who Glenn Beck is let alone anything about a comming new world order and what people who don't want to be a part of it need to do.

Also with someone like me who used to own his own business but had to get out of it because of the recession and is still currently looking for work, I can't make any money to do things like invest in gold or stock up on freeze dried food.

So if you are like me or know people who are in similar situations like me what would you do?

The only thing I personally know to do for me if that were to happen soon (knowing the situation I'm currently in) would be to make sure I'm right with God, I would be praying most of the day and I would basically just prepare to die and give myself up to whatever authority there is that's running the one world government.

I would then refuse the mark of the beast or whatever thing they make me do (especially if it conflicts with the basic doctrines and beliefs of Christianity) and get taken to the gallos to get beheaded.

As far as I can tell that's the best I know to do. Let me know if you all have any other ideas. These are interesting times to say the least.

[ayin jade]

Should you be prepared? Some say yes and some say no. Pray on it and see. Keep in mind the following:

Food insurance stuff started with becks mormon background. Mormons believe in having a 7 year food supply. All of the reasons for having it also fit into becks mormon beliefs about the collapse of the us and how mormons will save it (the white horse prophecy).

[Matthitjah]

I wouldn't pay any attention to anything Glenn Beck says.

He is currently pushing buying gold from Goldline International. Goldline International is currently under investigation for running a bait and switch operation.

http://www.smmirror....ngle&view=33355

Goldline International has a picture of Glenn Beck on it's homepage.

http://www.goldline....ials-glenn-beck

Goldline was investigated by that wonderful fount of righteous behavior himself, Timothy Weiner. It was also found to be not only not guilty but also has since had the investigation dropped. The investigation was politically timed and motivated. Since then Glenn Beck and Goldline have both been proven correct in their assertions that Gold was going to go nearly double because of the policies of the Left.

I'm not too fond of Glenn Beck either but for the reason that he is pushing a heretical Religion and that it drives all of his assertions. Let's get our facts straight though, shall we?

[other one]

While Glenn Beck isn't quite as spooky as Spooky Dude, none the less he's a bit spooky. I do watch his show for he is an excellent research person and what you see on his shows is easily cross checkable.

However like Dave, his religion bothers me a bit so I'm not very sold on his assessment of what he researches (hope that makes sense)

He gathers the facts but I don't always agree with his assessment of those facts.

As for being prepared, I personally think it's a very good idea. Coming new world order, tornadoes, ice storms, hurricanes or earthquakes...... on and on for the things we should be prepared for. As for planning for a permanent move to living off the land as Beck is promoting...... well that might work for a few people, but when the folks in the city get hungry, they are going to come and help themselves....... so you'd also have to have big guns and lots of amo, and places to bury a lot of people. I am not sure why the LDS has them store up food for a whole year. When you just get the basics of corn, beans, rice and some canned or freeze dried fruits and veggies, it's not really all that expensive...... if you get the freeze dried meals it will cost thousands of dollars. However when the Antichrist takes over, Satan and millions of dark angels will be behind him and there will be nowhere to hide that God himself doesn't provide....... just going on to be with Him in paradise really isn't a bad choice at that time. But storing up food for a few months in case our economy totally falters seems to me to be a very good idea, however there have been times in our life when not even that was possible.

I don't think I could let my neighbors who can't afford it to just starve while I had plenty to eat though..... I think we'd all have to be a little hungry and spread it out as long as it lasted though.

Beck does say that Gold and Silver are not for everyone. Most investment companies will tell you that you should have up to 20% of your long term investments in Gold or Silver; at least all the ones I talked to before I retired told me that...... and Beck is simply advertising Goldline. One should remember that Glenn Beck is an entertainer who makes an awful lot of money for what he does. He is very good at rooting out good information, but he's also good at getting people all riled up over stuff and that's part of keeping an audience and keeping his ratings up so he can charge more for his advertising. Also keep in mind that there is no one stopping him from putting his religion into his shows now that he's on the internet and that is what makes him spooky to me

In the long run you have the thing you need to do already when you said that all you could do is pray and trust the lord (paraphrasing). If any of this other stuff is what you need to do, he'll make a way.

As for a job, go to a good employment agency and let a professional find you the best job you're qualified for...... that is if you're looking. The best jobs available don't usually hire people off the street, they have companies screen people for them and most of those jobs, people on the street don't even know are available.

[OneLight]

I will not gather plenty, but I will have my trust in God.

[other one]

I will not gather plenty, but I will have my trust in God.

God told you what was coming OneLight..... maybe he did so for you to be ready for it...... He told Joseph to be ready..... and he told Noah to be ready..... are you better than them that God should just do all the work and planning for you?

Just some questions going on through my mind that I thought I should ask....

[OneLight]

I will not gather plenty, but I will have my trust in God.

God told you what was coming OneLight..... maybe he did so for you to be ready for it...... He told Joseph to be ready..... and he told Noah to be ready..... are you better than them that God should just do all the work and planning for you?

Just some questions going on through my mind that I thought I should ask....

I am lesser then most, but allow me to ask you this. Why would people stockpile their goods? If they have enough for 6 months, and it appears that things will not go well for many years, will they share with their neighbor what they have when their neighbor comes in need, or will their hearts be hardened by denying their neighbor?

My task, which I have accepted, is to lead people to Christ. I do not fear what is coming. The wise will learn how to live off the land and need not to purchase anything, when it comes down to taking the mark to purchase.

When God tells me to store up for a famine to prove to the unsaved that there is a God, or to store up because He is going to cause such a disaster that there will be no other means to survive, then I will obey. I have not found in scripture where this will happen.

[Strader327]

Should you be prepared? Some say yes and some say no. Pray on it and see. Keep in mind the following:

Food insurance stuff started with becks mormon background. Mormons believe in having a 7 year food supply. All of the reasons for having it also fit into becks mormon beliefs about the collapse of the us and how mormons will save it (the white horse prophecy).

Very interesting Jade! You really taught me something new there. I know quite a bit of stuff about mormons, such as their view of God being a former man who lives on another planet who has a goddess wife, but this was something I wasn't aware of until now.

Needless to say it appears to be quite a major coiencidence that we have a major mouthpiece for mormonism (Beck) at the right time where you have another mormon (Romney) being a front runner for president next year. It's almost like we are witnessing a mormon invasion. I guess the lds church felt like since they were not getting enough converts going door to door I guess they have to get their message accross in other ways.

But as far as I know, I currently don't feel led to do much except pray, trust God, and make sure I'm right with Him just in case if the end for alot of us is near. I'm probably going to try and share Christ with more people that's something else I need to start doing.

Edited November 2, 2011 by Strader327

[other one]

I will not gather plenty, but I will have my trust in God.

God told you what was coming OneLight..... maybe he did so for you to be ready for it...... He told Joseph to be ready..... and he told Noah to be ready..... are you better than them that God should just do all the work and planning for you?

Just some questions going on through my mind that I thought I should ask....

I am lesser then most, but allow me to ask you this. Why would people stockpile their goods? If they have enough for 6 months, and it appears that things will not go well for many years, will they share with their neighbor what they have when their neighbor comes in need, or will their hearts be hardened by denying their neighbor?

My task, which I have accepted, is to lead people to Christ. I do not fear what is coming. The wise will learn how to live off the land and need not to purchase anything, when it comes down to taking the mark to purchase.

When God tells me to store up for a famine to prove to the unsaved that there is a God, or to store up because He is going to cause such a disaster that there will be no other means to survive, then I will obey. I have not found in scripture where this will happen.

When the antichrist comes and the last half of the seven starts nothing you can do will keep you safe.

In the mean time when things do go wrong you can help yourself and others to survive. History has proven that it's hard to reach people when they're hungry. When the things come that are to happen before the antichrist gets here will the Mormons be the only people that can help other people.

We know that tough times are coming, who will you be able to help? It's hard to convince people that God loves them when they are hungry...... ask the missionaries that go to poor countries to preach.

BTW Ayin, when we were attending the Mormon Church they told us to have enough for a year, not seven. I did not reach the level of attending temple meetings so I am not familiar with what is taught there.

[OneLight]

I will not gather plenty, but I will have my trust in God.

God told you what was coming OneLight..... maybe he did so for you to be ready for it...... He told Joseph to be ready..... and he told Noah to be ready..... are you better than them that God should just do all the work and planning for you?

Just some questions going on through my mind that I thought I should ask....

I am lesser then most, but allow me to ask you this. Why would people stockpile their goods? If they have enough for 6 months, and it appears that things will not go well for many years, will they share with their neighbor what they have when their neighbor comes in need, or will their hearts be hardened by denying their neighbor?

My task, which I have accepted, is to lead people to Christ. I do not fear what is coming. The wise will learn how to live off the land and need not to purchase anything, when it comes down to taking the mark to purchase.

When God tells me to store up for a famine to prove to the unsaved that there is a God, or to store up because He is going to cause such a disaster that there will be no other means to survive, then I will obey. I have not found in scripture where this will happen.

When the antichrist comes and the last half of the seven starts nothing you can do will keep you safe.

Only God can keep us safe, as He did our forefathers. I agree!

In the mean time when things do go wrong you can help yourself and others to survive. History has proven that it's hard to reach people when they're hungry. When the things come that are to happen before the antichrist gets here will the Mormons be the only people that can help other people.

We know that tough times are coming, who will you be able to help? It's hard to convince people that God loves them when they are hungry...... ask the missionaries that go to poor countries to preach.

BTW Ayin, when we were attending the Mormon Church they told us to have enough for a year, not seven. I did not reach the level of attending temple meetings so I am not familiar with what is taught there.

The Holy Spirit can work in a person no matter where they are. It is not up to us to convince anyone of anything, but to tell them the truth.

Besides that, ever hear that if you give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime? BTW, I will not be in as poor country, but here in the US.