Interesting things about "antichrist"

[Guest]

.... Guys...what does this have to do with antichrist? Absolutely nothing. Please stay on topic....

From A Beloved Brother

Here's A Few Thoughts About The Times We Are In

Monday, 28 November 2011 12:08

Read every word, it's important

Many have asked me why I don't write more articles, it's not easy for me to answer that question. There is within my spirit such a heaviness and sorrow for the many who will not listen to the warnings of the Ruach HaKodesh (Holy Spirit) that in so many ways is telling those who know Yeshua as Messiah to prepare for God's judgment that has already started and is being felt around the world. For the beginning of great sorrows has begun and will continue to get much worse.

Here in Israel we are seeing the forces of darkness build in giant proportions around us, threatening to kill every Jew, for this is and has always been the desire of the Devil. In fact, the one sure way to see the hand of the Devil in anything is when anti-Semitism shows its ugly head like it is now doing in the Occupy Wall Street and the Islamic Revolution it's the same spirit that drove Hitler and the Nazis. I have written so many articles about this evil that I feel like I am repeating myself over and over. It's not a new movement, it is one that all Believers in God should be aware of, for it is written in Daniel, Ezekiel, Isaiah, and in Revelation and throughout God's Word that these things would occur in the end days.

Yet the Hirelings still stand behind pulpits preaching pie in the sky and all is well. Not preaching truth but what they know will keep them popular in the Church. Afraid to even tell them to put up some provisions or plant a garden if they can. You can find many articles I've sent out by CLICKING HERE.

We all know that there is a lot of Conspiracy Nuts out there, many of them have gone over the edge, but don't allow that to stop you from listening for God has people shouting out there trying to warn His People at the same time the Devil is trying to confuse you with the nuts. Ask God for the discernment of spirits to know the truth and who to listen to. I was amazed to here from an unlikely source, it is most likely some will write me and tell me they don't like him and I am not endorsing him either, his name is Newt Gingrich he said the following that should alert even the atheists among us To hear his short message on EMP CLICH HERE.

Russia has always and will always be the enemy to Israel and the USA, there desire to destroy both hasn't diminished in fact it has grown and they have a plan that is being put into effect today, and the same stands for China. What has changed is today they together have decided that they can destroy both Israel and the USA without a lot of trouble now with Obama in the WH. Now what I am about to say will not be received by many, but I believe they are right about their ability to take down the USA without a lot of trouble, in fact, their plan is in the final stages as you read this. But they are very wrong about Israel, but let me make myself clearer. America (USA) is without any doubt the greatest Country that has ever existed on this Planet, no other has ever stood for freedom and true democracy as the US has, no other Country has blessed Israel like the US has. The difference is God loves Israel and Jerusalem more than all others and He has made many promises to His people that stand for ever and ever. It is God who has chose the Jew it was His choice and through the Jews God has blessed the world more than with any other people.

No, Russia, China, Islam or no one will destroy Israel or kill all the Jews. That is a lie straight out of the pits of Hell and believed by many who call themselves "Christians" but they are wrong and they are about to find out just how wrong they are. They should read Zechariah 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. There is a truth that lives within me, that God called us to save Jewish lives and for the past few years we have seen miracles after miracles as He has brought us through dangers and provided where it looked impossible yet God is and always will be there as long as we walk in the way He provides before us. And I know that God has called many to bless Israel who have turned there backs or have given a token, yet God is calling for more much more. Gen 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, (Israel) and curse him that curseth thee: (Israel) and in thee (Israel) shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Originally I believed this Ministry was to save only the European Jews, or to save those who refused to leave in time, and would have no other way accept to be rescued by boat. For without any doubt another Holocaust is on the horizon. But God has also burdened us with other Countries, and in the US we have established Safe Houses, there are things I don't know about this part of the ministry, for there is no way we can go to the US with the two boats we now have to rescue Jews. But if they can first be saved in safe houses and then moved to the Greek Islands, Cyprus or even Turkey it is very possible we could save some. And if we could purchase a larger boat we would be able to save many more. For when the war begins there will be no commercial flights coming into or out of Israel, and the only possible way will be by boats.

Regardless of where or who you are, hard times in headed your way, the world is changing and in just one single day it will make a terrible and sudden change. I am asking you to prepare for your family and loved ones the best you possibly can. 1Tim.5 [8] But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infid The greatest preparation you could ever make is to come to grips with the truth of God's Word that became flesh and Tabernacle with us, many call Him Jesus, we Jews call Him Yeshua.

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem, for our son and all the IDF soldiers. Pray for this Ministry and your part in it.

Shalom, jerry golden

http://www.thegolden...d-its-important

And So I Pray

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Be Blessed Beloved Of The KING

Love, Joe

[Bold Believer]

Bold

You asked me about Gentry: Was Revelation written in AD 90? There is considerable question to whether that is true. I invite you to read Before Jerusalem Fell by Dr. Kenneth Gentry. Dr. Gentry cites a lot of excellent evidence to mitigate for a pre-AD 70 writing of Revelation.

I don't believe in preterism, therefore I do not believe what Kenneth Gentry peddles. He also is a postmill. For preterism needs to pre date Revelation to make their timeline work. They must allegorize the literal, they must interchange meanings.

Nero did not occupy any other persons soul (temple of God). For he was human. For Gods temple is in Jerusalem and was first built by King Solomon for worship.

Now back to the "antichrist" - 1 John 2:18 - Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. Now Nero may be considered one the "these many antichrists", but not the "antichrist". For 1,2,3rd John was written in about 90-95 A.D. As was Revelation in abut 90-91 A.D. These dates are confirmed by the experts of their field. The A/C is a person. Someone is coming.

In Christ

Montana Marv

I'm a partial preterist, not a full, and there is a great distinction. I am for lack of a better term, a Last Day Adventist. Jesus will come on the last day and not before.

Nero was not an antichrist, because the antichrists of whom John spoke had not even come on the scene yet. Nero died in 67 or 68 AD, John didn't write of antichrists until 91-95 AD. Antichrists have nothing to do with the end of days. Revelation was not written in 90 AD, of that I am sure. Gentry's evidence is pretty compelling. But the end of the Old Testament order was not the end of all things, and that is why I am not a full preterist.

Gog and Magog are here, now, marching across the earth. That my friend is what is coming. They are like the sands of the sea. And they absolutely hate and despise Believers in particular and religion in general. John and Paul's writing do agree regarding the man of sin. The man of sin is a category of people, Nero is an archetype of the man of sin, not an antichrist. The people today are believing The Lie that man is evolving into a god, and that was Satan's lie which he used to murder the First Man. Now, he will attempt to use it to do in those who live in the end of days, and he is succeeding because the Apostasy (2 Thess 2) is in full swing within the Church.

[Bold Believer]

.... Guys...what does this have to do with antichrist? Absolutely nothing. Please stay on topic....

From A Beloved Brother

Here's A Few Thoughts About The Times We Are In

Monday, 28 November 2011 12:08

Read every word, it's important

Many have asked me why I don't write more articles, it's not easy for me to answer that question. There is within my spirit such a heaviness and sorrow for the many who will not listen to the warnings of the Ruach HaKodesh (Holy Spirit) that in so many ways is telling those who know Yeshua as Messiah to prepare for God's judgment that has already started and is being felt around the world. For the beginning of great sorrows has begun and will continue to get much worse.

Here in Israel we are seeing the forces of darkness build in giant proportions around us, threatening to kill every Jew, for this is and has always been the desire of the Devil. In fact, the one sure way to see the hand of the Devil in anything is when anti-Semitism shows its ugly head like it is now doing in the Occupy Wall Street and the Islamic Revolution it's the same spirit that drove Hitler and the Nazis. I have written so many articles about this evil that I feel like I am repeating myself over and over. It's not a new movement, it is one that all Believers in God should be aware of, for it is written in Daniel, Ezekiel, Isaiah, and in Revelation and throughout God's Word that these things would occur in the end days.

Yet the Hirelings still stand behind pulpits preaching pie in the sky and all is well. Not preaching truth but what they know will keep them popular in the Church. Afraid to even tell them to put up some provisions or plant a garden if they can. You can find many articles I've sent out by CLICKING HERE.

We all know that there is a lot of Conspiracy Nuts out there, many of them have gone over the edge, but don't allow that to stop you from listening for God has people shouting out there trying to warn His People at the same time the Devil is trying to confuse you with the nuts. Ask God for the discernment of spirits to know the truth and who to listen to. I was amazed to here from an unlikely source, it is most likely some will write me and tell me they don't like him and I am not endorsing him either, his name is Newt Gingrich he said the following that should alert even the atheists among us To hear his short message on EMP CLICH HERE.

Russia has always and will always be the enemy to Israel and the USA, there desire to destroy both hasn't diminished in fact it has grown and they have a plan that is being put into effect today, and the same stands for China. What has changed is today they together have decided that they can destroy both Israel and the USA without a lot of trouble now with Obama in the WH. Now what I am about to say will not be received by many, but I believe they are right about their ability to take down the USA without a lot of trouble, in fact, their plan is in the final stages as you read this. But they are very wrong about Israel, but let me make myself clearer. America (USA) is without any doubt the greatest Country that has ever existed on this Planet, no other has ever stood for freedom and true democracy as the US has, no other Country has blessed Israel like the US has. The difference is God loves Israel and Jerusalem more than all others and He has made many promises to His people that stand for ever and ever. It is God who has chose the Jew it was His choice and through the Jews God has blessed the world more than with any other people.

No, Russia, China, Islam or no one will destroy Israel or kill all the Jews. That is a lie straight out of the pits of Hell and believed by many who call themselves "Christians" but they are wrong and they are about to find out just how wrong they are. They should read Zechariah 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. There is a truth that lives within me, that God called us to save Jewish lives and for the past few years we have seen miracles after miracles as He has brought us through dangers and provided where it looked impossible yet God is and always will be there as long as we walk in the way He provides before us. And I know that God has called many to bless Israel who have turned there backs or have given a token, yet God is calling for more much more. Gen 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, (Israel) and curse him that curseth thee: (Israel) and in thee (Israel) shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Originally I believed this Ministry was to save only the European Jews, or to save those who refused to leave in time, and would have no other way accept to be rescued by boat. For without any doubt another Holocaust is on the horizon. But God has also burdened us with other Countries, and in the US we have established Safe Houses, there are things I don't know about this part of the ministry, for there is no way we can go to the US with the two boats we now have to rescue Jews. But if they can first be saved in safe houses and then moved to the Greek Islands, Cyprus or even Turkey it is very possible we could save some. And if we could purchase a larger boat we would be able to save many more. For when the war begins there will be no commercial flights coming into or out of Israel, and the only possible way will be by boats.

Regardless of where or who you are, hard times in headed your way, the world is changing and in just one single day it will make a terrible and sudden change. I am asking you to prepare for your family and loved ones the best you possibly can. 1Tim.5 [8] But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infid The greatest preparation you could ever make is to come to grips with the truth of God's Word that became flesh and Tabernacle with us, many call Him Jesus, we Jews call Him Yeshua.

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem, for our son and all the IDF soldiers. Pray for this Ministry and your part in it.

Shalom, jerry golden

http://www.thegolden...d-its-important

And So I Pray

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Be Blessed Beloved Of The KING

Love, Joe

Joe, you should read Gingrich and Forstchen's book One Second After about EMP and its effect on the US. It's a novel. I have heard from experts who state that EMP is not the bugaboo it might have been years ago though.

[Guest]

Joe, you should read Gingrich and Forstchen's book One Second After about EMP and its effect on the US. It's a novel. I have heard from experts who state that EMP is not the bugaboo it might have been years ago though.

Thank You Beloved

Properly Done In Orbital Space

Nuclear EMP Will Shut Down All Most All Modern US Military C⁴I

{Command, Control, Communications, Computers, And (Military) Intelligence}

And From Time To Time, Sunspots Already Do A Fair Number On Civilian Control And Communication

Get A HAM License And Equipment If You Want To Stay On The Air

CQ CQ CQ de ------ :24:

[Bold Believer]

Joe, you should read Gingrich and Forstchen's book One Second After about EMP and its effect on the US. It's a novel. I have heard from experts who state that EMP is not the bugaboo it might have been years ago though.

Thank You Beloved

Properly Done In Orbital Space

Nuclear EMP Will Shut Down All Most All Modern US Military C⁴I

{Command, Control, Communications, Computers, And (Military) Intelligence}

And From Time To Time, Sunspots Already Do A Fair Number On Civilian Control And Communication

Get A HAM License And Equipment If You Want To Stay On The Air

CQ CQ CQ de ------ :24:

At one time, that would've been correct, however, some of the people I read after having read Newt and Bill's book state that newer measures and hardening will prevent such a disaster. But we digress.

[rod1]

Dear friends, the Antichrist is here, right now, in power, soon to establish his empire of ten, according to the Daniel prophesy.

I have been watching him for a couple of years now and the evidence is now without doubt, IMO.

The current President of France.

God Bless,

Rod.

Edited November 30, 2011 by rod1

[Bold Believer]

Dear friends, the Antichrist is here, right now, in power, soon to establish his empire of ten, according to the Daniel prophesy.

I have been watching him for a couple of years now and the evidence is now without doubt, IMO.

The current President of France.

God Bless,

Rod.

Sarkozy? Rod, even if I DID believe in an antichrist dictator, it wouldn't believe it was him. I don't think that man could find his nose in a snowstorm. And Europe is crumbling due to their poor economic system, aka socialism. Ten nations...not gonna happen. Just an FYI though...the Roman Empire broke into 10 nations, just like Daniel said it would. Still, when you try to project the past into the future, any guess is as good as another. It's been everyone from Napoleon to the Pope...AND THEY'VE ALL BEEN WRONG.

[other one]

Joe, you should read Gingrich and Forstchen's book One Second After about EMP and its effect on the US. It's a novel. I have heard from experts who state that EMP is not the bugaboo it might have been years ago though.

Thank You Beloved

Properly Done In Orbital Space

Nuclear EMP Will Shut Down All Most All Modern US Military C⁴I

{Command, Control, Communications, Computers, And (Military) Intelligence}

And From Time To Time, Sunspots Already Do A Fair Number On Civilian Control And Communication

Get A HAM License And Equipment If You Want To Stay On The Air

CQ CQ CQ de ------ :24:

At one time, that would've been correct, however, some of the people I read after having read Newt and Bill's book state that newer measures and hardening will prevent such a disaster. But we digress.

But outside the military who's spent the money to harden the electronics we use every day....

[Retrobyter]

Shalom, Rod.

Dear friends, the Antichrist is here, right now, in power, soon to establish his empire of ten, according to the Daniel prophesy.

I have been watching him for a couple of years now and the evidence is now without doubt, IMO.

The current President of France.

God Bless,

Rod.

No, the "antichrist" has been with us since the first century. It is not a PERSON; it's a spirit - an attitude - of being against the Messiah or the Anointed-One of God. Yochanan gave us the term; therefore, he should be the one who defines it for us:

1 John 2:18-27

18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist (Greek: antichristos, literally "[one]-against-anointed") shall come, even now are there many antichrists (Greek: antichristoi, literally "[some]-against-anointed"); whereby we know that it is the last time.

19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

20 But ye have an unction (Greek: chrisma, "an-anointing") from the Holy One (Greek: tou Hagiou, literally, "the Holy [One]"), and ye know all things.

21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.

22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist (Greek: ho antichristos, literally "the [one]-against-anointed"), that denieth the Father and the Son.

23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.

25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.

26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

27 But the anointing (Greek: to chrisma, "the anointing") which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing (Greek: to autou chrisma, "the same anointing") teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

KJV

He even said that we, too, have an anointing (same root word) from the Ruach haQodesh, the "Holy One", the "Holy Spirit of God," and by it, we can recognize the difference between truth and lies.

We have been taught and conditioned to believe that the "Man of sin" or the "Lawless One" in 2 Thes. 2 is the same as the "Beast" in Rev. 13 and that both should be called "the Antichrist," but I don't think so. Someone had to do some mental gymnastics to make such a connection, and it's been taught for so long, that it's next to impossible to read through these passages, such as from 1 John above, without thinking it has to do with such a person!

I'm not saying that there isn't a "man against the Torah" who fulfills the predictions of 2 Thessalonians 2, or that there isn't a "beast" who fulfills the predictions of Revelation 13, but I have serious misgivings that they are talking about the same person! Furthermore, I am 100% certain that the "he" pronouns in Dani'el 9:27 are NOT talking about an "Anti-Messiah" but are talking about THE REAL Messiah of Dani'el 9:25-26! Therefore, all the interpretations of an "Antichrist" character that come from that passage of Scripture should be thrown out the window! He will NOT set up an "abomination on the wing of the Temple" (as some versions render the Hebrew) nor does he make a covenant for 7 years and break it in the middle of the 7-year period! Those are misinterpretations of this rather obscure (in English) passage.

It's high time that we discarded this 50's mentality and get back to the Scriptures, reading them for WHAT THEY SAY, not for what we can see of our eschatological model in them.

Edited December 1, 2011 by Retrobyter

[rod1]

Dear friends, the Antichrist is here, right now, in power, soon to establish his empire of ten, according to the Daniel prophesy.

I have been watching him for a couple of years now and the evidence is now without doubt, IMO.

The current President of France.

God Bless,

Rod.

Sarkozy? Rod, even if I DID believe in an antichrist dictator, it wouldn't believe it was him. I don't think that man could find his nose in a snowstorm. And Europe is crumbling due to their poor economic system, aka socialism. Ten nations...not gonna happen. Just an FYI though...the Roman Empire broke into 10 nations, just like Daniel said it would. Still, when you try to project the past into the future, any guess is as good as another. It's been everyone from Napoleon to the Pope...AND THEY'VE ALL BEEN WRONG.

Bold Believer, just remember you were told, all nations are broke!......don't worry about old money Europe they still call the shots, time for the Euro users to become ten, coming soon.

See Daniel 7:8, He's going to control the Euro nations and when he does, he'll personally throw three out to make Ten.

And you know who is in the box seat, he has centre stage in directing economic stratages for all of the EU, not just France.

The antichrist will be Nicholas Sarkozy, whatsmore he's also a half blood Jew.

Messiah material!

He has to be a Western politician if he's going to change the Financial structure of the world.....surely that's obvious to start, no one ticks the boxes like this guy.

Rev 13:17, buying and selling, financial transactions, global financial reform. He's up to his eyeballs doing all this stuff, and he's in the right corner of the globe.

Watch and learn, since the reemergence of Israel as a Nation, the generation that witnesses these things will not pass away, according to Jesus.

Thought the Roman Empire comprised of Ten Provinces, and that's why the Ten.

Retrobyter,

Why do you think Rev divides the last seven years in half? A first 42mths, the ascention and rule of AC, then the rest?......The time of wrath.

About AC, does say he tries to change traditions, looks to be worshipped and exalts himself so as to be worshipped, sounds like a man to me!

Also, Antiochus never fully conquered Egypt, AC does, and already has, including Libya. See book of Daniel, Chpt 11:43, Antiochus was an anti-type to natural Isreal

final Antichrist comes against the Church, the elect.

Nicolas Sarkozy has fullfilled this AC prophesy by orchestrating the overthrow of these Nations inline with Scripture, another reason why I know who he is.

Soon it'll be Syria, cause he's to be know as the Assyrian, and that's also according to scripture, there's only one person on the face of the globe that's done

all this, Sarkozy. He's the man.

Edited December 1, 2011 by rod1