OneLight Posted December 29, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted December 29, 2011 I take it seriously. Besides it being part of my family, it is in His word that many will turn from the truth and follow false religions (paraphrased). If anything, it should drive us to live the truth and speak the truth without hesitation to those who we meet and will listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peri Posted December 29, 2011 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 29 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/15/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted December 29, 2011 So you're saying that no one is allowed to make hats and scarves for other people on the first day of winter because some Wiccans worship Mother Nature on that same day? And Christians aren't allowed to thank God for the seasons and the things that come with them that allow us to have food, because pagans are also glad for the seasons? You don't think that's a bit legalistic? I don't see where in the Bible it says that I'm not allowed to make hats and scarves on any day of the year that I want and give them away. Maybe we should all go in and edit Proverbs 31 to make sure that everyone knows that a woman shouldn't clothe her family on the first day of winter. And let's make sure that everyone knows to adjust that for time zones. Oh, and it flips over to winter at one particular second, so I guess we need some clarity on whether the whole entire day is taboo or just that particular second. Even though I've never knitted anything in my life, just in case I ever pick up the habit, it'll be important to know which second of the year I'm not allowed to knit anything in. So, if one is knitting a scarf for the homeless person on the corner on the day of the Solstice, what are they supposed to do on the exact second that it flips over to winter? Observe a moment of silence, or what? (And, no, I'm not trying to be sarcastic here; I'm genuinely curious.) To make it as simple as I can, Wicca, the religion, worships the solstices, both of them, and the equinoxes, both of them. They also worship the spirits of the North, South, East and West. They honor Mother Earth in every degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted December 29, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 So you're saying that no one is allowed to make hats and scarves for other people on the first day of winter because some Wiccans worship Mother Nature on that same day? And Christians aren't allowed to thank God for the seasons and the things that come with them that allow us to have food, because pagans are also glad for the seasons? First of all, the solstice isn't about the changing of the seasons, it's about the sun. "Solstice" is derived from the Latin phrase for "sun stands still." That's because—after months of growing shorter and lower since the summer solstice—the sun's arc through the sky appears to stabilize, with the sun seeming to rise and set in the same two places for several days. Then the arc begins growing longer and higher in the sky, reaching its peak at the summer solstice. news.nationalgeographic.com Labeling it as the first day of winter is the Astronomical Winter. However, the Meteorological Winter begins Dec. 1. ( See here for explanation ) Secondly, my problem is that the honoring of the Winter Solstice (the birth of the sun) is replacing the honoring of the birth of our Savior (Christmas). Thirdly, I have no problem with thanking God for the seasons. However, I see nothing in the article that indicates a thanking of God. Do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted December 29, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted December 29, 2011 So you're saying that no one is allowed to make hats and scarves for other people on the first day of winter because some Wiccans worship Mother Nature on that same day? And Christians aren't allowed to thank God for the seasons and the things that come with them that allow us to have food, because pagans are also glad for the seasons? You don't think that's a bit legalistic? I don't see where in the Bible it says that I'm not allowed to make hats and scarves on any day of the year that I want and give them away. Maybe we should all go in and edit Proverbs 31 to make sure that everyone knows that a woman shouldn't clothe her family on the first day of winter. And let's make sure that everyone knows to adjust that for time zones. Oh, and it flips over to winter at one particular second, so I guess we need some clarity on whether the whole entire day is taboo or just that particular second. Even though I've never knitted anything in my life, just in case I ever pick up the habit, it'll be important to know which second of the year I'm not allowed to knit anything in. So, if one is knitting a scarf for the homeless person on the corner on the day of the Solstice, what are they supposed to do on the exact second that it flips over to winter? Observe a moment of silence, or what? (And, no, I'm not trying to be sarcastic here; I'm genuinely curious.) To make it as simple as I can, Wicca, the religion, worships the solstices, both of them, and the equinoxes, both of them. They also worship the spirits of the North, South, East and West. They honor Mother Earth in every degree. You quoted me. Did you have a question for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted December 30, 2011 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,250 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,981 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted December 30, 2011 this sun worship started long long before Jesus was born, and since it's not really Jesus's birthday, in reality this is just going back to what it was origionally..... That's not a good thing, but in my personal view we should be having christmas in September if at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 I'm surprised that people aren't taking this seriously.... Seriously And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. Deuteronomy 13:2-4 With Joy And Thanksgiving Seriously Beloved, Seriously He only is my rock and my salvation: he is my defence; I shall not be moved. Psalms 62:6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldzimm Posted December 30, 2011 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 85 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,874 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 348 Days Won: 12 Joined: 03/10/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/08/1955 Share Posted December 30, 2011 this sun worship started long long before Jesus was born, and since it's not really Jesus's birthday, in reality this is just going back to what it was origionally..... That's not a good thing, but in my personal view we should be having christmas in September if at all. You want to celebrate Christmas in September, find I'm all for it, if you can convince the whole Christian Community to do so. Yet I can almost guarantee there is a chance that day will fall on a time of some pagan belief or event. Today is December 30th, people are sinning today (heck we probably all did in some form or another), is it wrong for me to worship God today because others are sinning?.......................(of course not) So is it wrong for Christians to celebrate the birth of Jesus and praise him, if by chance December 25th might be celebrated by pagans for something else?......................(again, of course not) A day is just time, God doesn't really care about time, God only cares about what is in our hearts. On Christmas my heart is in the celebrating of the birth of Jesus Christ, the man who gave it all for our sorry souls. Anything else we Christians do on Christmas (Family gatherings, Gift giving, Santa Clause or whatever) is just cultural or family traditions to bring more joy to Christmas and has nothing to do with any of us worshiping any Micky Mouse form of paganism. That is something this world needs more of, "JOY". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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