Could you vote for a Mormon in the Whitehouse?

[winsomebulldog]

Should we care if an American President believes in God or what he believes?

YES. The president's policies shape the laws and regulations that govern our lives. A moral man will have moral and just policies while an immoral or godless one will change with the shifting political wind.

I'm stunned by those who say things like, "I'm voting for a president, not my pastor." But then I've always been amazed at how people can divorce their political and religious beliefs.

[L.J.]

I voted no.

Like Cobalt, I was married to a Mormon for 8 years. They are not Christian.

I decided long ago that I was a Christian who happens to be an American. If there is not a believer on the ticket, I just don't vote. Is it un-American not to vote? I don't think so. It's a right, not a demand. Before anyone starts waving a flag and saying I'm unpatriotic, I proudly served 10 years in the armed forces. I paid for my right for free speech and the right not to vote. I answer to God for my decisions. Nobody else!

Don't mean to sound so harsh. Just tired of some people defining what is duty. Don't remember seeing these people when I was pulling broken bodies off the bus during Desert Storm.

[joi]

1 Samuel 8

1 And it came to pass, when Samuel was old, that he made his sons judges over Israel.

2 Now the name of his firstborn was Joel; and the name of his second, Abiah: they were judges in Beersheba.

3 And his sons walked not in his ways, but turned aside after lucre, and took bribes, and perverted judgment.

4 Then all the elders of Israel gathered themselves together, and came to Samuel unto Ramah,

5 And said unto him, Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways: now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.

6 But the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the LORD.

7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.

I did not vote. This is a problem for me. I want to vote, but if Romney gets the nod, I do not plan on voting for him.

In the verses above, Israel decided they wanted a king to judge them like other nations had, and that is just what God gave them.

I have to wonder if that is not how we got our current President.

In reading some of what Mormonism is it is difficult to separate them from Muslims, if you will re-read the posts.

I get frustrated with Christians who say the system is broken and I am not going to vote in it. They say no matter who gets the nomination

nothing is going to change. Probably they are correct, however if we want things to get better we must submit them to God in prayer and try

and get God fearing men to run for office. If we don't our nation is lost, if it is not already.

I want to vote, but I will not vote to put another man with the mindset of a cult in office. I believe God would not honor this country if we do that.

My decision, my choice.

Someone said he served in the Military and bought his right to vote. My husband was also Military and along with him, I also paid some dues

though not on the field. Every spouse has to deal with the Military life when her husband serves. I am not complaining, but rather explaining my

right to this decision.

If I voted to put a cult driven man into office I could expect to get cult driven laws from him. No thank you. As for me, I will serve the Lord in so far as I am able.

[MorningGlory]

Gotta live what you believe! If the establishment can't see what kind of leader we need and they continue to put up puppets for the progressive, liberal cause who don't share our principles and flip-flop, then the only thing left is a 3rd party run that will likely put one of their puppets in office anyway.

We can only hope for the best and pray God will step in!

So true. This election cycle is looking much like the last one.......there's not much of a choice.

[joi]

1 Samuel 8

1 And it came to pass, when Samuel was old, that he made his sons judges over Israel.

2 Now the name of his firstborn was Joel; and the name of his second, Abiah: they were judges in Beersheba.

3 And his sons walked not in his ways, but turned aside after lucre, and took bribes, and perverted judgment.

4 Then all the elders of Israel gathered themselves together, and came to Samuel unto Ramah,

5 And said unto him, Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways: now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.

6 But the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the LORD.

7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.

I did not vote in this poll.

This is a problem for me. I want to vote, but if Romney gets the nod, I do not plan on voting for him.

In the verses above, Israel decided they wanted a king to judge them like other nations had, and that is just what God gave them.

I have to wonder if that is not how we got our current President.

In reading some of what Mormonism is it is difficult to separate them from Muslims, if you will re-read the posts.

I get frustrated with Christians who say the system is broken and I am not going to vote in it. They say no matter who gets the nomination

nothing is going to change. Probably they are correct, however if we want things to get better we must submit them to God in prayer and try

and get God fearing men to run for office. If we don't our nation is lost, if it is not already.

I want to vote, but I will not vote to put another man with the mindset of a cult in office. I believe God would not honor this country if we do that.

My decision, my choice.

Someone said he served in the Military and bought his right to vote. My husband was also Military and along with him, I also paid some dues

though not on the field. Every spouse has to deal with the Military life when her husband serves. I am not complaining, but rather explaining my

right to this decision.

If I voted to put a cult driven man into office I could expect to get cult driven laws from him. No thank you. As for me, I will serve the Lord.

Daniel stood for what he believed and even in adverse conditions God blessed him for it. I believe He will do the same for me.

[winsomebulldog]

I voted no.

Like Cobalt, I was married to a Mormon for 8 years. They are not Christian.

I decided long ago that I was a Christian who happens to be an American. If there is not a believer on the ticket, I just don't vote. Is it un-American not to vote? I don't think so. It's a right, not a demand. Before anyone starts waving a flag and saying I'm unpatriotic, I proudly served 10 years in the armed forces. I paid for my right for free speech and the right not to vote. I answer to God for my decisions. Nobody else!

Don't mean to sound so harsh. Just tired of some people defining what is duty. Don't remember seeing these people when I was pulling broken bodies off the bus during Desert Storm.

Not to derail or hijack the thread, but I just wanted to take a moment to thank you for your service. God bless you for being willing to make sacrifices that give us ALL the right to vote (or not) however we like.

[winsomebulldog]

Someone said he served in the Military and bought his right to vote. My husband was also Military and along with him, I also paid some dues

though not on the field. Every spouse has to deal with the Military life when her husband serves. I am not complaining, but rather explaining my

right to this decision.

No need to explain your decision not to vote. We all have that right. And thank you for your service as well. I agree wholeheartedly that military spouses serve right along with their husbands and wives. Kids, too. God Bless you and your family.

[JohnD]

Just watched the movie Ides of March.

I do not recommend it. But it did have a good point in a speech by the candidate Clooney played in the movie.

I am running on the everyone pays their fair share of taxes platform. The rich scream "Socialism!" When they are asked to pay their fair share of the tax burden.

Or they scream "No redistribution of wealth!" And scare everybody when they say it. But what about the redistribution of America's wealth to the 1% who bankrupted

this nation and made a profit doing so?

I never heard it put so well before.

And here today Mitt got caught with his mitts in the cookie jar. He claimed 15% tax payments even as his Cayman Island accounts were being discovered.

Still want to vote for this guy?

[JohnD]

This thread was started from the religious aspect. But the fundamental well being of all I suppose ought to be included.

Let me say that most Mormons I have encountered are decent people. They are sincere in their faith. But like the baker who sincerely thought he added a cup of sugar to the pie he was baking and it was actually salt... one can be the most sincere person on the planet and be sincerely wrong. The baker lacked sufficient information. Mormons lack sufficient information. There is a true God and he revealed himself through holy scriptures and warned humanity not to add to them or take away from them. Most Mormons are unaware how their venerated books of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price, Doctrines and Covenants, the various articles of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young and other "prophets" and elders to the LDS Church have done just what God forbade. And these Mormons are placed under spiritual and social duress not to investigate any further than what their elders tell them.

Then there are those who don't care about truth they just want a religion / religious experience that makes them feel good or that most aligns with what they believe regardless of the truth. I suspect there are some here who are this way as well with Christianity. Not that I have anyone in mind. It just occurs to me there are some folks all over the place who don't see any difference in any religion or rather it makes no difference to them.

[oldzimm]

I voted no.

Like Cobalt, I was married to a Mormon for 8 years. They are not Christian.

I decided long ago that I was a Christian who happens to be an American. If there is not a believer on the ticket, I just don't vote. Is it un-American not to vote? I don't think so. It's a right, not a demand. Before anyone starts waving a flag and saying I'm unpatriotic, I proudly served 10 years in the armed forces. I paid for my right for free speech and the right not to vote. I answer to God for my decisions. Nobody else!

Don't mean to sound so harsh. Just tired of some people defining what is duty. Don't remember seeing these people when I was pulling broken bodies off the bus during Desert Storm.

Not to derail or hijack the thread, but I just wanted to take a moment to thank you for your service. God bless you for being willing to make sacrifices that give us ALL the right to vote (or not) however we like.

I don't think your really derailing this thread in anyway, it is about voting and L.J. post reminded me of something. I was in Iraq and I feel a close relationship with all my brothers an sisters that were and are in uniform, just like my brothers and sisters in Christ. The last Presidential election if I remember right the absentee ballets from our fighting men an women from Iraq were some how mysteriously lost and I took that as a slap in the face to all the brave men an women that ever put on a uniform. I wonder if it ever got resolved, because it seems like it was swept under the rug?