He Did Away With The Law

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Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts:

And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting. Psalms 139:23-24

Want To Be Happy For The Rest Of Your Life

Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. Psalms 1:1-2

Look Into God's Mirror

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1 John 1:8-10

And Confess

As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us. Psalms 103:12

[Matthitjah]

The only reason we are not condemned is because we have been raised from spiritual death to eternal life in the new birth through faith.

Exactly.

I don't know how you believe the Law to be a curse.

Rather, cursed is he who hangs on a tree.

Ga 3:13

Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us; for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

The Law which was and is Righteous became a curse to us because we could not keep it.

The Law is not a curse, in fact, it is Grace. It is Grace because it showed us the way to Christ.

Blessed was the Jew chiefly because they were given the Oracles of God.

Ro 3:2

Much every way: chiefly, because unto them were committed the oracles of God.

What does Paul go on to say?

Ro 3:31

Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

[He giveth more grace]

But what about Mt 5:17-18 - ". . .I have not come to abolish them (the Law or the Prophets) but to fulfill them.. . .until heaven and earth disappear. . .(nothing) will be any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."

True, he did not come to contradict it, but to fulfill its purpose, plan and design.

And fulfill them, he did, not just by what he did and said, but by who he was--perfect righteousness.

He obeyed the commands of the Law,

he made good the promises of the Law, the predictions of the prophets, and the ceremonial law by being the reality of its shadows (Heb 10:1),

he filled up (fulfilled) its defects in taking away sin (Heb 10:4, because it only covered sin--Ro 4:7; Ps 85:2).

And because it is now fulfilled, the NT sets it aside (Heb 7:12, 18: Co 9:20; ) in favor of the royal law of Christ (Ro 13:8-10).

So the Word God, in the contexts of the many statements above, is clear that it is freedom from the Mosaic law that is being treated in them.

In the NT, not only do believers have freedom from slavery to sin, they also have freedom from slavery to the Mosaic law (Gal 4:21-31).

In the NT, God's standard of righteousness is now the law of Christ (Ro 13:8-10), rather than the law of Moses (Gal 4:21-31).

The law of Moses still stands to condemn the unbelievers. Paul in his treatise on the Law of Moses stated that the Law defined sin and I died. Jesus said your accuser is Moses. The Law of Moses. It was a school teacher to lead us to the Law of Grace (Christ). We who went there are free of the law of sin and death (Romans 8:2). It still points to Christ, but it stands to condemn those who do not believe in Christ.

Excellent point, JohnDB! Can the sinner be saved unless convict by the word, particularly by the Law.

[Matthitjah]

The only reason we are not condemned is because we have been raised from spiritual death to eternal life in the new birth through faith.

Exactly.

I don't know how you believe the Law to be a curse.

Rather, cursed is he who hangs on a tree.

Ga 3:13: Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us; for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

The Law which was and is Righteous became a curse to us because we could not keep it.

The Law is not a curse,

As you say above, it is a curse to those who do not keep in perfectly.

That makes it a curse for all mankind, because Jesus Christ is the only one who kept it perfectly.

If there is no son of Adam for whom the law is not a curse, then the law is a curse, as the Word of God states.

in fact, it is Grace. It is Grace because it showed us the way to Christ.

Blessed was the Jew chiefly because they were given the Oracles of God.

Ro 3:2: Much every way: chiefly, because unto them were committed the oracles of God.

What does Paul go on to say?

Ro 3:31: Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Paul is answering the question: if justification comes by faith alone, is the law then rejected?

His answer is in chp 7:

no, the law is necessary to show sin to the unredeemed (vv.1),

no, the law is necessary as the basis for judgment of the sin of the unredeemed (vv.10-11),

no, the the righteous law is upheld by Christ's sacrifice which appeases its righteous and just judgment (3:31),

no, the law is a holy judge (v.12).

But the holy law is a curse to all mankind, because none keep it perfectly (Gal 3:10).

For the redeemed, the Mosaic law, with its curse from which none are exempt, is nailed to the cross (Eph 2:15; Col 2:14),

the redeemed are no longer under it, because they would be cursed by their failure to keep in perfectly (Gal 3:10),

they are under the law of Christ (Ro 13:8-10), which has no curse for not keeping it perfectly.

No, The Law was not nailed to the Cross. Your sin was nailed to the Cross. The Law stands.

The curse was the breaking of the Law and it's consequences which he nailed to the Cross, not the Law itself. His Life summed up the Law.

[Matthitjah]

The only reason we are not condemned is because we have been raised from spiritual death to eternal life in the new birth through faith.

Exactly.

I don't know how you believe the Law to be a curse.

Rather, cursed is he who hangs on a tree.

Ga 3:13: Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us; for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

The Law which was and is Righteous became a curse to us because we could not keep it.

The Law is not a curse,

As you say above, it is a curse to those who do not keep in perfectly.

That makes it a curse for all mankind, because Jesus Christ is the only one who kept it perfectly.

If there is no son of Adam for whom the law is not a curse, then the law is a curse, as the Word of God states.

in fact, it is Grace. It is Grace because it showed us the way to Christ.

Blessed was the Jew chiefly because they were given the Oracles of God.

Ro 3:2: Much every way: chiefly, because unto them were committed the oracles of God.

What does Paul go on to say?

Ro 3:31: Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Paul is answering the question: if justification comes by faith alone, is the law then rejected?

His answer is in chp 7:

no, the law is necessary to show sin to the unredeemed (vv.1),

no, the law is necessary as the basis for judgment of the sin of the unredeemed (vv.10-11),

no, the the righteous law is upheld by Christ's sacrifice which appeases its righteous and just judgment (3:31),

no, the law is a holy judge (v.12).

But the holy law is a curse to all mankind, because none keep it perfectly (Gal 3:10).

For the redeemed, the Mosaic law, with its curse from which none are exempt, is nailed to the cross (Eph 2:15; Col 2:14),

the redeemed are no longer under it, because they would be cursed by their failure to keep in perfectly (Gal 3:10),

they are under the law of Christ (Ro 13:8-10), which has no curse for not keeping it perfectly.

No, The Law was not nailed to the Cross. Your sin was nailed to the Cross. The Law stands.

The curse was the breaking of the Law and it's consequences which he nailed to the Cross, not the Law itself. His Life summed up the Law.

P.S.

The curse was their inabilty to keep it, their sin, not the Law;

Ne 10:29

They joined with their brethren, their nobles, and entered into a curse, and into an oath, to walk in God's law, which was given by Moses the servant of God, and to observe and do all the commandments of the LORD our Lord, and his ordinances and his statutes;

Blessing or the curse;

De 11:26

¶ Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse;

De 11:27

A blessing, if you obey the commandments of the LORD your God, which I command you this day:

De 11:28

And a curse, if you will not obey the commandments of the LORD your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which you have not known.

The problem wasn't the Law and it didn't need to be done away with .

[Matthitjah]

The only reason we are not condemned is because we have been raised from spiritual death to eternal life in the new birth through faith.

Exactly.

I don't know how you believe the Law to be a curse.

Rather, cursed is he who hangs on a tree.

Ga 3:13: Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us; for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

The Law which was and is Righteous became a curse to us because we could not keep it.

The Law is not a curse,

As you say above, it is a curse to those who do not keep in perfectly.

That makes it a curse for all mankind, because Jesus Christ is the only one who kept it perfectly.

If there is no son of Adam for whom the law is not a curse, then the law is a curse, as the Word of God states.

in fact, it is Grace. It is Grace because it showed us the way to Christ.

Blessed was the Jew chiefly because they were given the Oracles of God.

Ro 3:2: Much every way: chiefly, because unto them were committed the oracles of God.

What does Paul go on to say?

Ro 3:31: Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Paul is answering the question: if justification comes by faith alone, is the law then rejected?

His answer is in chp 7:

no, the law is necessary to show sin to the unredeemed (vv.1),

no, the law is necessary as the basis for judgment of the sin of the unredeemed (vv.10-11),

no, the the righteous law is upheld by Christ's sacrifice which appeases its righteous and just judgment (3:31),

no, the law is a holy judge (v.12).

But the holy law is a curse to all mankind, because none keep it perfectly (Gal 3:10).

For the redeemed, the Mosaic law, with its curse from which none are exempt, is nailed to the cross (Eph 2:15; Col 2:14),

the redeemed are no longer under it, because they would be cursed by their failure to keep in perfectly (Gal 3:10),

they are under the law of Christ (Ro 13:8-10), which has no curse for not keeping it perfectly.

No, The Law was not nailed to the Cross. Your sin was nailed to the Cross. The Law stands.

The curse was the breaking of the Law and it's consequences which he nailed to the Cross, not the Law itself. His Life summed up the Law.

P.S.

The curse was their inabilty to keep it, their sin, not the Law;

The curse was the curse which the law pronounced on their sin; i.e., the wrath of God.

All mankind is under its curse, except for those who have been freed from it by Christ.

Then by your own words the Law is still in effect. It can't have been nailed to the Cross. If it was it perished.

[Matthitjah]

The only reason we are not condemned is because we have been raised from spiritual death to eternal life in the new birth through faith.

Exactly.

I don't know how you believe the Law to be a curse.

Rather, cursed is he who hangs on a tree.

Ga 3:13: Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us; for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

The Law which was and is Righteous became a curse to us because we could not keep it.

The Law is not a curse,

As you say above, it is a curse to those who do not keep in perfectly.

That makes it a curse for all mankind, because Jesus Christ is the only one who kept it perfectly.

If there is no son of Adam for whom the law is not a curse, then the law is a curse, as the Word of God states.

in fact, it is Grace. It is Grace because it showed us the way to Christ.

Blessed was the Jew chiefly because they were given the Oracles of God.

Ro 3:2: Much every way: chiefly, because unto them were committed the oracles of God.

What does Paul go on to say?

Ro 3:31: Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Paul is answering the question: if justification comes by faith alone, is the law then rejected?

His answer is in chp 7:

no, the law is necessary to show sin to the unredeemed (vv.1),

no, the law is necessary as the basis for judgment of the sin of the unredeemed (vv.10-11),

no, the the righteous law is upheld by Christ's sacrifice which appeases its righteous and just judgment (3:31),

no, the law is a holy judge (v.12).

But the holy law is a curse to all mankind, because none keep it perfectly (Gal 3:10).

For the redeemed, the Mosaic law, with its curse from which none are exempt, is nailed to the cross (Eph 2:15; Col 2:14),

the redeemed are no longer under it, because they would be cursed by their failure to keep in perfectly (Gal 3:10),

they are under the law of Christ (Ro 13:8-10), which has no curse for not keeping it perfectly.

No, The Law was not nailed to the Cross. Your sin was nailed to the Cross. The Law stands.

The curse was the breaking of the Law and it's consequences which he nailed to the Cross, not the Law itself. His Life summed up the Law.

P.S. The curse was their inabilty to keep it, their sin, not the Law;

The curse was the curse which the law pronounced on their sin; i.e., the wrath of God.

All mankind is under its curse, except for those who have been freed from it by Christ.

Then by your own words the Law is still in effect. It can't have been nailed to the Cross. If it was it perished.

And by God's Word it has been nailed to the cross (Eph 2:15; Col 2:14).

LOL

[Matthitjah]

So the people of God are no longer under the law of Moses, but are now under the law of Christ

Same Law.

The folks under the Law that was handed down by Angels to Moses still attained the promise by Faith and not by works.

[Matthitjah]

So the people of God are no longer under the law of Moses, but are now under the law of Christ

Same Law.

The folks under the Law that was handed down by Angels to Moses still attained the promise by Faith and not by works.

With one major difference: there is no curse attached to the law of Christ for not keeping it perfectly.

There was no curse under the old one either save those who refused to live it by Faith. That is why there was a yearly atonement for sin.

The curse was in not accepting Gods Law and living to the detriment of it. It was a blessing or a curse.

Today we operate the same way. We are either Obedient or we are not. The Law is still in effect. You can either live by the Spirit or you can try and live by your Religious Law. Your Religious Law will fail you.

God expressed it this way and this was folks who still lived under the Law of Moses;

Lu 18:10

Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a tax collector.

Lu 18:11

The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank you, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector.

Lu 18:12

I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

Lu 18:13

And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

Lu 18:14

I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for everyone that exalts himself shall be abased; and he that humbles himself shall be exalted.

[Matthitjah]

There is, and always has been, only one means of righteousness given by God; i.e., faith in the Promise (Christ).

Amen, both under the Law and under Christ. We're saying the same thing.

The Law has not been done away with, it has been fulfilled. It didn't die on the Cross it was fulfilled. It wasn't nailed to anything and it hasn't been nullified, even in our lives.