unity at the cost of doctrine

[other one]

1 Cor 3:10-15

10 According to the grace of God which was given to me, as a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building upon it. But let each man be careful how he builds upon it. 11 For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if any man builds upon the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 13 each man's work will become evident; for the day will show it, because it is to be revealed with fire; and the fire itself will test the quality of each man's work. 14 If any man's work which he has built upon it remains, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man's work is burned up, he shall suffer loss; but he himself shall be saved, yet so as through fire.

NASB

I think this pretty much gives us the latitude of different denominations as long as they are built on Christ. We'll see how each of them stand up in the next few years as the firestorm comes.

Rom 10:8-10

"The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart"

[stevehut]

as long as they are built on Christ.

My point exactly.

Are they?

[larryt]

Daniel is the picture of non-compromise in the bible. This was ingrained in me as a young christian and I determined not to compromise on what I knew from the Word as a result. Alone the way I have come to realize that we are at war, more fierce than any fought in the flesh. It is nice to know that the person bringing up the rear is on your side.

Not to bring up another thread, but the bottom line in doctrine seems to be what does it mean to be truly saved. The bible clearly says there are false believers, false bretheren, wolves in sheeps clothing.

This may seem simplistic but I boiled it down to this.

1. Did the Father call you?

2. Did Jesus save you?

3. Do you know you have the Holy Spirit?

4. Have you repented of your sins?

To theologically understand this is not what I am getting at. No one had to explain to me that I was changed. I knew it.

LT

[larryt]

Hi He'sTN,

If a non-believer came up to you and said they would like to come and worship with you you'd jump at the chance!

Actually no, I wouldn't. The bible says that to worship God it must be done in Spirit and in truth. The unbeliever can't do this.

I would probably ask Why do you want to do this and share the gospel with them.

LT

[other one]

as long as they are built on Christ.

My point exactly.

Are they?

Depends on who "they" are, some are and some, it looks to me like, maybe not. I don't know enough about some to know.

[Guest the_Panther]

I feel that we are all from 1 Women & 1 Man (Adam & Eve)...So in my eyes we are ALL Family...and I personaly wish we could all treat each other as such

Your Brother In Christ Our Lord,

Patrick A.K.A..the Panther :hug:

[Guest He's taking names]

"Actually no, I wouldn't. The bible says that to worship God it must be done in Spirit and in truth. The unbeliever can't do this.

I would probably ask Why do you want to do this and share the gospel with them.

LT "

ok, sorry my bad let me rephrase....if a non-believer wanting to come to one of your meetings you would want them to yes? so that you could introduce them to what it means to worship God and follow true doctrine yes?

my point was I don't see how it would be different if this person invited was a Christian from a denomination you believe to be false...that would mean in your eyes they ARE a non-believer and should be treated in the same way! the difference is they are already open to Christ!!!

alot of times you can find people don't even know about some of the false teachings within their own denomination...go forth, educate!!!

does that make more sense or do you still think me false?

In His love

S

[larryt]

Hi S,

Hope I didn't seem harsh.

alot of times you can find people don't even know about some of the false teachings within their own denomination...go forth, educate!!!

Isn't that what this thread is supposed to be about, sound doctrine. Those that TRY to adhear to sound doctrine are often labled LEAGALIST, or UNBALANCED.

It seems that I focus on certain issues and thus come accross as legaistic or unbalanced. From my perspective, I don't have to "educate!!!" in areas I agree with. Most don't take the time or just haven't seen the other side of people because they focus on certain issues themselves.

LT

PS -- A wheel needs at least three spokes to be able to roll smoothly. Think about it.

[nebula]

I don't mean to be harsh either, but can you be 100% sure you have the hold on what is absolutely true?

I don't know about you, but there are many things I was raised to believe, which I've since learned aren't quite that way, and I have had many views and beliefs and doctrines reshapened or crushed or formed or reformed. Although I stand by my convictions, I have learned it foolish to act as if I've "got it". The day we stop learning is the day we stop growing. In such a matter, I plan to never grow up. I pray I am always humble enough to be open to continue learning and relearning.

And it's not just you, but it really does concern me when people hammer off about "you gotta believe the 100% truth, or you have no truth at all."

It makes me feel like, "So, I have to bow to you as the source of 100% truth now?"

Can anyone here stand before the Lord, look directly in His eyes, and say, "I'm right, (s)he's wrong, and therefore I am more fit for the Kingdom than him/her?"

Really?

[Guest He's taking names]

Hello again larryt,

no i didn't take it as you being harsh don't worry

I do understand what you are saying and I see the merit in it BUT I also feel that you might be missing out on opportunities to outreach and show people the true gospel. I'm only caring that we all do our best to help people find Christ's love you know?

"Most don't take the time or just haven't seen the other side of people because they focus on certain issues themselves."

???sorry but isn't that what I'm saying? that we need to sit where they sit and take the time? to show people the other side? ...or have I missed your point here? sorry if I have.

In His love

Simon (as opposed you just S)