Peace Maker Tony Posted December 27, 2012 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 63 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 16 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/01/1969 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I have asked in another post for someone to tell me how recreational use of weed glorifies God, and have not received an answer, despite all the proponents of it on here. I will add, how does it not contradict 1 Peter 5:8, 1 Corinthians 6:19-20, Ephesians 5:18 and the many other scriptures? Lastly, if drunkards do not inherit the kingdom, how will recreational weed-users? Man may be double-minded, God isn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chloe_fantastic Posted December 27, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 868 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 221 Days Won: 2 Joined: 06/09/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/17/1981 Share Posted December 27, 2012 why do defenders of pot always compare it to other things in order to try justify it? ... I think you see my point, that, like pornography ... Pot is like pornography, people keep comparing it to other things. I see what you did there! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Maker Tony Posted December 27, 2012 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 63 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 16 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/01/1969 Share Posted December 27, 2012 (edited) why do defenders of pot always compare it to other things in order to try justify it? ... Pot is like pornography, people keep comparing it to other things. I see what you did there! Thank you for your input here on the discussion of whether or not Christians should smoke pot. I guess you missed it that I was making an analogy in response to a commonality in a lot of the posts of the pot defenders. My point was that as porn and pot-use are VICES, and neither is better than the other, so too, pot and cigs are vices, and neither one is better or justifiable over another. Whereas many people in this thread want to justify weed by using that "pot is better than cigarettes" (or booze, or whatever) mentality. Edited December 27, 2012 by Peace Maker Tony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted December 27, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted December 27, 2012 I have said once before that the discussion on "pharmakeia" needs to have it's own thread. I will continue to hide all responses to this topic and will close the thread if people do not adhere to this. Yes, before this post I had already gotten your point about starting a new thread, and I haven't used the word since then, nor do I see the point in doing so again.When I first mentioned it I just didn't foresee how bringing up a biblical Hebrew word in a (Christian) thread about drugs could be a problem, nor how that word was somehow unrelated to the discussion. We do have those who use it for medical reasons and they are not witches or sorcerers. I invite you to point me to a post where I said or implied that medical use of weed is sorcery. This thread is not about medical use, it is about whether or not Christians should use marijuana. So rather than me or anyone else having to stop talking about "sorcery" in this thread, don't you think maybe it's the people who keep bringing up medical use in a thread that isn't about that, should be the ones to have to start a new thread? You will notice that I did not quote you in my post, meaning that the post was to everyone, not only to you. After I asked you not to do this, others chimed in quoting your post. Since it was obvious that my message had not gotten across yet, possibly they had not seen it, I made another post like the first one. If I am addressing one particular member, I will quote them. Otherwise, take the post as a general one, to everyone. You do not need to take this personal As for a decision a Servant makes, be it me or another, I suggest you take heed to the suggestion and not argue against it. If you have an issue with anyone in ministry, or questioning their actions, take it private, meaning in a PM, which is part of the ToS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_christian_warrior Posted December 29, 2012 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 69 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 21 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/26/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/11/1964 Share Posted December 29, 2012 I find this question amazing. We are Christians.... we live by another lifestyle. So let me get this straight...... do you think it's OK for Christians so smoke dope just because it's legal in some states? Let me think about this. ...................... NO! Are you kidding. What do you say to your friends or even strangers that are looking to us for answers. And please let me hear you say to God when you face Him, "Well You know Lord it was legal". Think about it. I agree totally, how can smoking pot help our commission in any way. It is best at messing up your mind, making it harder for a person to learn, and the paranoia hinders any teaching that you might have been able to do. I must admit though, it has great medical uses for painkiller. 1/3 of a medium size joint kills the pain as well as a 24 mg doses of morphine. Better yet, it removes all nausea and the pain within seconds, instead of the waiting 1-2 hours for the morphine pills to take effect, which tends to cause nausea instead of helping with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinky Posted December 29, 2012 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,602 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 291 Days Won: 8 Joined: 10/24/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/01/1986 Author Share Posted December 29, 2012 I would suppose that if a Christian did smoke legal marijuana, they would do so in moderation, as some Christians do with alcohol. What strikes me, is that many people slam marijuana because of the harm it can do, with a tobacco cigarette hanging out of their mouths. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted December 29, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted December 29, 2012 One joint has more tar in it than one cigarette. One study stated that one joint has seven times more tar and carbon monoxide than tobacco smoke. This should be a consideration when deciding to partake or not. Marijuana studies have not really been publicized due to it being illegal. The question that I have is why would doctors prescribe pot over narcotics if pot is more dangerous? It would benefit everyone who is making the choices to have the real facts, not skewed by any political or religious reasons, set side by side so the real facts can be examined and the risks known. To say pot is not addictive is wrong. To say that if you smoke pot you will become a hard core junkie is wrong. To say that people only smoke pot to get high is wrong. The truth is found somewhere in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j102 Posted January 3, 2013 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 443 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 24 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/08/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted January 3, 2013 Now that marijuana is legal in Colorado and Washington, would it still be wrong for Christians to smoke it in those states? Would it be wrong for a Christian to have an abortion in a state or country where it is legal? I think as we are "aliens" no matter where we are planted, and we should live by the bible and what it tells us, not what man decrees? abortion is murder that is clearly wrong.... marijuana on the other hand (which jesus created) is less dangerous than alcohol when compaired side by side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j102 Posted January 3, 2013 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 443 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 24 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/08/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted January 3, 2013 Medical marijuana exists in the form of marinol, a pill that takes marijuana into standardized form as a pain medication. It is rarely used because folks do not like it. It does not work as well as other pain meds and they do not get high from it. Medical marijuana laws were written to start the process of legalizing it for recreational use. No other medicine is permitted to be sold in unstandardized form by someone not a medical practioner. Since it is not standardized in potency, one can have varied effects from it. Which is not how real medicine is practiced in this country. Marinol is not a marijuana in a pill. It's THC in a pill. I know nothing about how commonly it is prescribed, but it's well known that THC is only one of the active chemicals in marijuana. And, so marijuana is much more effective than a THC pill. Marijuana isn't used as a stand-alone painkiller, but as an enhancement to other painkillers, so it's a non-sequitur to say it's not as effective as other pain meds. Medical herbs are normally sold in non-standardized form by non-practitioners. Look in any grocery store, near the vitamins. amen to that... there is so much misinformation out there and its sad that alot people do not fact check. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j102 Posted January 3, 2013 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 443 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 24 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/08/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted January 3, 2013 To recreationally use anything that alters one's state of mind is wrong. Why is a little mood elevation wrong? Is it wrong to enjoy your home team winning a game? Are you of the opinion that wine in the Bible was just grape juice? This is more wickedness that will only lead to trouble. Who are the suppliers of this drug? EVIL MEN. Shortly after 9-11, commercial appeared on American TV stating that to use marijuana and other drugs was to help terrorists. Now we legalize it? More national hypocrisy. It makes me wanna hurl. You're blaming 9-11 on marijuana? The only way to get drugs out of the hands of organized crime is to legalize them. Being happy over your home team winning a game is not the same as using a drug recreationally which can alter your mind. That's a ridiculous comparison. No, oinos means fermented wine, and again, there's a big difference. One can use alcohol responsibly. Wine grapes are grown by responsible people; marijuana is not. I was referring to the commercials which the government put on TV after 9-11 which equaled buying drugs to helping terrorists. And it does. There is a sub-set of terrorists who grow both pot and poppies for heroin and make sure they make their way to US shores. They use the cash from their ill-gotten gain to buy weapons and fund more terror. Legalizing drugs will allow the cartels more inroad into the US. They are particularly violent sons of the devil and they have no qualms about murdering you, your wife, your kids and your friends. Ask anyone who lives in Mexico or Central America where the cartels hold sway. If cartels are allowed to import their wares, what do you think will happen if you don't pay for that shipment on time? We're not talkin' being late on your car payment here. That was a silly thing to say. You certainly didn't think it through very well. i dont get your logic- you say that money from illegal drugs funds terrorist, but if we remove them from the black market and make some of the drugs legal that the money will still go to terrorist. please explain this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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