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After encountering many people in my life who fear they've committed the unpardonable sin, I would like to offer encouragement to those who come here to Worthy with that same concern: If you are fearful that you've committed the unpardonable sin - do not worry - you haven't.

If you did commit it, you would have no concern at all for your salvation.

In the Bible, Jesus said, "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them." (John 6:44)

The very desire for salvation through Christ comes from the Father Himself. The Bible says that if God did not draw the sinner, absolutely no one would seek God.

"There is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks after God." (Romans 3:11)

It is God the Father who gives the lost to Jesus.

Jesus said, "All that the Father gives me will come to me..." And He then makes a wonderful, beautiful promise, "...and the one who comes to me I will in no way cast out." (John 6:37)

If you have the desire to be saved - you can be - for that desire only comes from God Himself. If you had committed the unpardonable sin, you would have no desire for salvation whatsoever. You would not be drawn toward Jesus at all. Why would God give you a desire to be forgiven, if He did not want to forgive you? Repentance and faith are special gifts of God, which He would not bestow on any man if He were determined never to pardon him.

The Bible never teaches that God will refuse to forgive anyone who wants forgiveness. God's Word never teaches that a sinner can beg for salvation, but that the Lord will refuse to hear, or to save.

Also, the Holy Spirit reproves people of sin. A person who has truly blasphemed the Spirit will, again, have no desire for salvation, because the Spirit will never come to him to reprove him of his sins.

And no Christian can commit the unpardonable sin for the simple reason that on the matter of salvation, the issue is settled, his sins are already pardoned. Jesus paid the whole price. All of a Christian's sins have been forgiven - past, present, and future.

In other words, the very act of being concerned about the possibility of having committed this sin, is a sure giveaway that one's heart has not been hardened in sin.

If the Devil can make you doubt the assurance of salvation, he can beat you senseless and make your life miserable and fruitless.

Notice in the following verses that no one is excluded from salvation through Christ if they truly seek it.

Acts:2:21: "And it shall come to pass that everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

Matthew 7:8 "For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened."

Romans 1:16: "I am not ashamed of the Gospel because it is the power of God for salvation for everyone who believes."

Romans 10:13: "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord will be saved."

Remember: "The blood of Jesus Christ cleanses us from all sin." (1 John 1:9)

Jesus did not endure the incredible agony of the cross to not save anyone who sincerely seeks salvation.

​Now stop worrying and rest in the arms of the good Shepard who will leave the 99 to seek the one that is lost. (Luke 15:4)

Blessings! :heart:

- Tinky (with a little help from various contributors)

Spot on, Tinky!! Great minds think alike, :) I love posts that speak about our assurance in Christ. A lack of assurance is paralyzing to the Christian's walk and witness.


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Great post, Tinky! Do you mind if I pass this to a friend? (One who is not a member here.) I won't if you don't want this shared outside this site.


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Great post, Tinky! Do you mind if I pass this to a friend? (One who is not a member here.) I won't if you don't want this shared outside this site.

Use it as you like, MorningGlory. :heart:


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After encountering many people in my life who fear they've committed the unpardonable sin, I would like to offer encouragement to those who come here to Worthy with that same concern: If you are fearful that you've committed the unpardonable sin - do not worry - you haven't.

If you did commit it, you would have no concern at all for your salvation.

In the Bible, Jesus said, "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them." (John 6:44)

The very desire for salvation through Christ comes from the Father Himself. The Bible says that if God did not draw the sinner, absolutely no one would seek God.

"There is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks after God." (Romans 3:11)

It is God the Father who gives the lost to Jesus.

Jesus said, "All that the Father gives me will come to me..." And He then makes a wonderful, beautiful promise, "...and the one who comes to me I will in no way cast out." (John 6:37)

If you have the desire to be saved - you can be - for that desire only comes from God Himself. If you had committed the unpardonable sin, you would have no desire for salvation whatsoever. You would not be drawn toward Jesus at all. Why would God give you a desire to be forgiven, if He did not want to forgive you? Repentance and faith are special gifts of God, which He would not bestow on any man if He were determined never to pardon him.

The Bible never teaches that God will refuse to forgive anyone who wants forgiveness. God's Word never teaches that a sinner can beg for salvation, but that the Lord will refuse to hear, or to save.

Also, the Holy Spirit reproves people of sin. A person who has truly blasphemed the Spirit will, again, have no desire for salvation, because the Spirit will never come to him to reprove him of his sins.

And no Christian can commit the unpardonable sin for the simple reason that on the matter of salvation, the issue is settled, his sins are already pardoned. Jesus paid the whole price. All of a Christian's sins have been forgiven - past, present, and future.

In other words, the very act of being concerned about the possibility of having committed this sin, is a sure giveaway that one's heart has not been hardened in sin.

If the Devil can make you doubt the assurance of salvation, he can beat you senseless and make your life miserable and fruitless.

Notice in the following verses that no one is excluded from salvation through Christ if they truly seek it.

Acts:2:21: "And it shall come to pass that everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

Matthew 7:8 "For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened."

Romans 1:16: "I am not ashamed of the Gospel because it is the power of God for salvation for everyone who believes."

Romans 10:13: "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord will be saved."

Remember: "The blood of Jesus Christ cleanses us from all sin." (1 John 1:9)

Jesus did not endure the incredible agony of the cross to not save anyone who sincerely seeks salvation.

​Now stop worrying and rest in the arms of the good Shepard who will leave the 99 to seek the one that is lost. (Luke 15:4)

Blessings! :heart:

- Tinky (with a little help from various contributors)

Spot on, Tinky!! Great minds think alike, :) I love posts that speak about our assurance in Christ. A lack of assurance is paralyzing to the Christian's walk and witness.

Thank-you, Shiloh357! :heart:

And I agree - Satan knows a person cannot share the gospel effectively with others if they are not even sure of their own salvation.


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I think Tinky is right in that if someone is worried that they committed the unforgivable sin, then they didn't. It reminds me of what we used to say about people who are truly crazy. They never think they are crazy. So the old rule of thumb was if you think you're insane, you're not. The same holds true for this sin. If you worry you've committed it you haven't, because you wouldn't be worried about it if you did.

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I think Tinky is right in that if someone is worried that they committed the unforgivable sin, then they didn't. It reminds me of what we used to say about people who are truly crazy. They never think they are crazy. So the old rule of thumb was if you think you're insane, you're not. The same holds true for this sin. If you worry you've committed it you haven't, because you wouldn't be worried about it if you did.....

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Hear the word of the LORD, ye that tremble at his word; your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name's sake, said, Let the LORD be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed. Isaiah 66:5


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Great post, Tinky! Do you mind if I pass this to a friend? (One who is not a member here.) I won't if you don't want this shared outside this site.

Use it as you like, MorningGlory. :heart:

Thanks, Tinky! I believe I can use it to strongly impact someone I know. :mgbowtie:


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If you have the desire to be saved - you can be - for that desire only comes from God Himself. If you had committed the unpardonable sin, you would have no desire for salvation whatsoever. You would not be drawn toward Jesus at all. Why would God give you a desire to be forgiven, if He did not want to forgive you? Repentance and faith are special gifts of God, which He would not bestow on any man if He were determined never to pardon him.

Just so I am clear about what you mean in this passage, are you saying that God calls all men (people) to be saved, and all those that WANT to be saved, He does save. However, while hearing this call from God, some people choose to reject this calling, and having done so, they essentially, are blaspheming the Holy Spirit, and from that point on can NO LONGER be saved? That the Holy Spirit simply stops striving with this human?

What if a person simply resists the calling for a time, and says over and over again that they are "not interested" in the Gospel, or that the Gospel may be "good enough for me" but that he prefers not to be bothered? Does the apparent lack of desire to be saved at any given moment always an automatic indication that he has already committed the unforgiveable sin, and that God has lost interest in him?

No offense, but I had always believed that as long a human drew breath, that there was still time for him or her to change their minds about God and about their lives. That in order to literally blaspheme the Holy Spirit one would have to deny His calling right up to their dying breath, and at THAT point, it would become an unpardonable sin. After all, it is not until we are DEAD that we face the judgment, and once dead, there is NO changing one's mind about anything.

Being misguided, disillusioned, angry, bitter and a great host of other detrimental attitudes towards life could very well deafen a person to the call of God and cause a person to resist the pull of the Holy Spirit. If we treated every person as irretrievably lost simply because they do not currently show an interest in salvation, then why bother evangelizing in the first place? Why bother trying to love this person, and showing them by the love we have for each other that there is a BETTER way than their bitter attitude towards God?

Please, let me know where I am going wrong in my understanding of your post ... :confused:

This is not what I got from her posts. Take it at what it says. If someone doe snot have a desire to be saved, they won't be. If anyone has committed the unforgivable sin, they would not have a desire to repent. I do believe that God would turn such a person over to Satan.


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The unpardonable sin is to blaspheme or speak a word against the Holy Spirit. Anyone could theoretically open their mouth and speak a word against the Holy Spirit. That is just common sense.

How can a person indwelt by the Holy Spirit, made alive by the Holy Spirit blaspheme the Holy Spirit? The unpardonable sin is NOT speaking a word against the Holy Spirit. The unpardonable sin is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Blasphemy is slander. To blaspheme the Holy Spirit is to slander Him. In the ONLY biblical context for that sin it was unbelievers who blasphemed the Holy Spirit. Your position leaves the realm of Scripture and enters the realm of what you call "common sense." The problem is that the position you offer is not according to Scripture.

There is NO warning given to the churches in any epistle. If this were something Christians were in danger of committing, don't you think there would be no shortage of warnings all over the NT? It would be one of the most important warnings to the Christians that could be made.

We are taught that salvation comes about because of an act we did in going to the alter and praying a sinner's prayer, but God's Word says we are saved if we are among the chosen, who were predestined to be saved.

The Bible NEVER uses predestination in terms of who is or is not chosen to be saved. The verses on Predestination refer to what God has predestined for Christians after they have been saved.

I do not agree that when you accept Jesus, all your present and future sins are automatically under the blood covering.

The only reason I can appropriate forgiveness today is that all of my sins are covered under the blood of Jesus. The work of the blood is to cover all sin, past, present and future. That doesn't mean I am automatically forgiven for the sins I commit. I must still appropriate forgiveness. But if the sins I commit in the future were not paid for on the cross, then I cannot be forgiven for them. I cannot appropriate the power of the blood of Jesus to forgive sins that His blood doesn't cover.

"Covered" by the blood is not scriptural...we have been cleansed from our sins. Saying "covered" means the sins are still there ...just covered up.

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The unpardonable sin is to blaspheme or speak a word against the Holy Spirit. Anyone could theoretically open their mouth and speak a word against the Holy Spirit. That is just common sense.

How can a person indwelt by the Holy Spirit, made alive by the Holy Spirit blaspheme the Holy Spirit? The unpardonable sin is NOT speaking a word against the Holy Spirit. The unpardonable sin is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Blasphemy is slander. To blaspheme the Holy Spirit is to slander Him. In the ONLY biblical context for that sin it was unbelievers who blasphemed the Holy Spirit. Your position leaves the realm of Scripture and enters the realm of what you call "common sense." The problem is that the position you offer is not according to Scripture.

There is NO warning given to the churches in any epistle. If this were something Christians were in danger of committing, don't you think there would be no shortage of warnings all over the NT? It would be one of the most important warnings to the Christians that could be made.

We are taught that salvation comes about because of an act we did in going to the alter and praying a sinner's prayer, but God's Word says we are saved if we are among the chosen, who were predestined to be saved.

The Bible NEVER uses predestination in terms of who is or is not chosen to be saved. The verses on Predestination refer to what God has predestined for Christians after they have been saved.

I do not agree that when you accept Jesus, all your present and future sins are automatically under the blood covering.

The only reason I can appropriate forgiveness today is that all of my sins are covered under the blood of Jesus. The work of the blood is to cover all sin, past, present and future. That doesn't mean I am automatically forgiven for the sins I commit. I must still appropriate forgiveness. But if the sins I commit in the future were not paid for on the cross, then I cannot be forgiven for them. I cannot appropriate the power of the blood of Jesus to forgive sins that His blood doesn't cover.

Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. Matthew 12:31,32

You are mistaken on this point Shiloh. Anyone is capable of speaking a word against the Holy Ghost. In addition, the only way a person can be saved is for the Father to reveal the Son to them, as he did to the Apostle Peter.

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