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It is absolutely amazing the fall from faith today.

 

Most either flat out reject Jesus Christ or they have adopted a works based or merit based salvation. That is not faith at all.

 

Many deny that eternal security and Once Saved Always Saved are true. But that is just a works based or merit based salvation in disguise.

 

Maybe that is why Jesus Christ said:

 

Luke 18:8

I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?

 

 


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Faith is not of ourselves, lest we boast. Faith is a gift from God which we receive through His grace. We are saved by grace. We do not have grace because we believed. That would make believing a work by which we are saved. On the contrary, we have faith because we first received grace (cf. Titus 1:11). We also know that faith without works is dead. What then is the source of our works which are pleasing to God? (cf. Matt 25) Grace alone. The works we do through grace are salvific in that by doing them we are carrying out not our own will, but God's will. He wills our faith and He wills our good works. Just as faith without works is dead, so is works without faith dead. They are like the two peddles on a bicycle, and the energy we use to ride that bicycle to heaven is grace. We cannot serve God by saying: I will only believe. We will never hear the words: "Well done good and faithful servant," if we do not carry out the will of our Master. So, yes, works of the Law are not salvific, and works that we do on our own are not salvific, but works that we do through grace that carry out the divine will of God are salvific. That is the meaning of Jesus' discourse on works done to be glorified by men, and works done in secret which are pleasing to the Father. That is why the former receives no heavenly reward, while the latter does indeed receive a heavenly reward.


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Faith is not of ourselves, lest we boast. Faith is a gift from God which we receive through His grace. We are saved by grace. We do not have grace because we believed. That would make believing a work by which we are saved. On the contrary, we have faith because we first received grace (cf. Titus 1:11). We also know that faith without works is dead. What then is the source of our works which are pleasing to God? (cf. Matt 25) Grace alone. The works we do through grace are salvific in that by doing them we are carrying out not our own will, but God's will. He wills our faith and He wills our good works. Just as faith without works is dead, so is works without faith dead. They are like the two peddles on a bicycle, and the energy we use to ride that bicycle to heaven is grace. We cannot serve God by saying: I will only believe. We will never hear the words: "Well done good and faithful servant," if we do not carry out the will of our Master. So, yes, works of the Law are not salvific, and works that we do on our own are not salvific, but works that we do through grace that carry out the divine will of God are salvific. That is the meaning of Jesus' discourse on works done to be glorified by men, and works done in secret which are pleasing to the Father. That is why the former receives no heavenly reward, while the latter does indeed receive a heavenly reward.

Paul is quite clear that works do not save. In fact relying on works for salvation prevents salvation.

 

 

Paul is the apostle of the Gentiles. (Romans 11:13) He got the gospel of salvation by direct revelation from the Lord Jesus Christ (Galatians 1:11-12). It is by Paul that the Gentiles are to hear the gospel (Romans 15:16 and 2 Timothy 4:17).

 

Paul wrote the following. So it is absolutely sure that works are not needed for salvation.

 

Ephesians 2:8-9

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Not of works, lest any man should boast.

 

Titus 3:5

Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

 

But Paul declared that trusting in works or merit for salvation prevents salvation.

 

Romans 11:6

And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

 

Romans 4:5

But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

 

Hebrews 6:1

Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

 

Hebrews 4:10

For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

 

Titus 1:16

They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

 

Jesus Christ was asked by some people what were the works of God. Notice the plural works, that is, they wanted to know them all. But Jesus Christ answered there was only one (notice the singular) of God and it is just to believe on Jesus Christ.

 

John 6:28-29

28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?

29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.


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Faith is not of ourselves, lest we boast. Faith is a gift from God which we receive through His grace. We are saved by grace. We do not have grace because we believed. That would make believing a work by which we are saved. On the contrary, we have faith because we first received grace (cf. Titus 1:11). We also know that faith without works is dead. What then is the source of our works which are pleasing to God? (cf. Matt 25) Grace alone. The works we do through grace are salvific in that by doing them we are carrying out not our own will, but God's will. He wills our faith and He wills our good works. Just as faith without works is dead, so is works without faith dead. They are like the two peddles on a bicycle, and the energy we use to ride that bicycle to heaven is grace. We cannot serve God by saying: I will only believe. We will never hear the words: "Well done good and faithful servant," if we do not carry out the will of our Master. So, yes, works of the Law are not salvific, and works that we do on our own are not salvific, but works that we do through grace that carry out the divine will of God are salvific. That is the meaning of Jesus' discourse on works done to be glorified by men, and works done in secret which are pleasing to the Father. That is why the former receives no heavenly reward, while the latter does indeed receive a heavenly reward.

Paul is quite clear that works do not save. In fact relying on works for salvation prevents salvation.

 

Neither faith nor works save. Grace alone saves. Relying on works without grace does not save. Relying on faith without grace does not save. Only grace saves.


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Faith is not of ourselves, lest we boast. Faith is a gift from God which we receive through His grace. We are saved by grace. We do not have grace because we believed. That would make believing a work by which we are saved. On the contrary, we have faith because we first received grace (cf. Titus 1:11). We also know that faith without works is dead. What then is the source of our works which are pleasing to God? (cf. Matt 25) Grace alone. The works we do through grace are salvific in that by doing them we are carrying out not our own will, but God's will. He wills our faith and He wills our good works. Just as faith without works is dead, so is works without faith dead. They are like the two peddles on a bicycle, and the energy we use to ride that bicycle to heaven is grace. We cannot serve God by saying: I will only believe. We will never hear the words: "Well done good and faithful servant," if we do not carry out the will of our Master. So, yes, works of the Law are not salvific, and works that we do on our own are not salvific, but works that we do through grace that carry out the divine will of God are salvific. That is the meaning of Jesus' discourse on works done to be glorified by men, and works done in secret which are pleasing to the Father. That is why the former receives no heavenly reward, while the latter does indeed receive a heavenly reward.

Paul is quite clear that works do not save. In fact relying on works for salvation prevents salvation.

 

Neither faith nor works save. Grace alone saves. Relying on works without grace does not save. Relying on faith without grace does not save. Only grace saves.

 

Although saved by grace, it is through faith.

 

Ephesians 2:8-9

 

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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Why can't salvation be based on works? It can be based by works.

Faith without works is dead as James stressed.
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Why can't salvation be based on works? It can be based by works.

 

Faith without works is dead as James stressed.

 

It Is His

 

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8-9

 

Work

 

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. Ephesians 2:10

 

That Gives Us Love

 

And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. James 2:16-18

 

For God Loves Mercy And Grace

 

For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Philippians 2:13

 

And Works Without Jesus

 

Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

 

Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Romans 3:24-28

 

Is Sure Hell You See

 

The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. John 3:16


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I was not disputing that salvation is through grace, just confirming an earlier post.


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Why can't salvation be based on works? It can be based by works.

 

No one can behave their way into the kingdom. It's impossible to please God except by faith.

 

Hebrews 11:6 (NLT)

And it is impossible to please God without faith. Anyone who wants to come to him must believe that God exists and that he rewards those who sincerely seek him.


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Blessing Everyone!

     The once saved always saved concept is beautiful and very true as far as no one being able to pluck the believer out of Christs hand ....but people just look at 2 options,either once saved always saved or not....there is the 3rd....a person can lose their salvation of their own"free will"....by having received grace though faith & then becoming apostate,the unforgivable sin,willfully turning away from Christ......Which many will choose to do,especially in end times were there will be a great falling away....and those will be in rebrobate(Christ having died Once for our sin,there is no more sacrifice......so as this is accurate in saying one cannot simply "lose"their salvation,one can most certainly give it up

      I don't wish to open a "can of worms"but this is the written Word of God

                                                                                                             With love,in Christ-Kwik

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