Does God DESIRE to save everyone?

[kwikphilly]

Blessings DRS!

   I must say it is quite enjoyable discussing these things with you because you have such a sincere heart & a sxweet spirit,I am so tired of "the Bible Police" ripping apart your every word & sentence because"Where does it say that in the Bible"....I pray everyone gain the Wisdom & Understanding by the Counsel of the Holy Spirit & just learn how to talk to one another as you do,my pleasure!You are a blessing & very refreshing...

    Yeah,I am quite sure God does not interfere and I couldn't be in any more agreement with you as this would be my heartfelt desire that God make my decisions for me(lol)and I cannot tell you how often I pray"Have your Way Lord...please,just have your Way with me!'You referred to the perfect verses because Jesus told us He would send the Comforter,the Counselor....The same way Jesus did not make any decisions for the 12 or any of His disciples ,neither will the Holy Spirit....but ask for His help & we will sure give it!

    Being convicted of sin are encouraged to repent but we are not made to......Yes DRS,I say the same thing as you,"Interfere Lord,interfere"...of course we can pray for Gods Divine intervention and I do believe ,according to His Will,He shall!

   Again ,I cannot tell you how nice it is to talk with people like you &Fresno Joe, brother Hall,Fez,ninhao & truly enjoy our discussions!God bless you & keep you

                                                                                                                           With love ,in Christ-Kwik

Dearest Hall,I really don't even like saying that I disagree so much but rather that i interpret differently....LOL,......Peace,love & blessings to you!

[Guest DRS81]

Thank you kwikphilly, blessings back!  (1 John 3:20 for whenever our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and he knows everything.) Since he knows everything, then why did he create unbelievers knowing they will not repent and go to hell one day.

[JustinM]

Perhaps that's another reason why we cannot interact with God personally, he is outside of time, outside of eternity, and unable to "predecide our future" in our dimension.

 

This could be difficult to explain, so let me try something more basic.

 

Perhaps God made Himself unreachable to us in our dimension, so we could have the free will to decide for ourselves if we want a relationship with Him.

 

He is omniscient, but has sealed himself off from our world so we can be left to live our lives freely, and without His direct influence.  That may explain why He doesn't intervene when we are suffering too.

[Guest DRS81]

Perhaps God made Himself unreachable to us in our dimension, so we could have the free will to decide for ourselves if we want a relationship with Him.

 

He is omniscient, but has sealed himself off from our world so we can be left to live our lives freely, and without His direct influence.  That may explain why He doesn't intervene when we are suffering too.

 

Wait a minute, no. He does reach us, has direct influence and does intervene..through the Holy Spirit..especially when we're suffering.

[JustinM]

 

Perhaps God made Himself unreachable to us in our dimension, so we could have the free will to decide for ourselves if we want a relationship with Him.

 

He is omniscient, but has sealed himself off from our world so we can be left to live our lives freely, and without His direct influence.  That may explain why He doesn't intervene when we are suffering too.

 

Wait a minute, no. He does reach us, has direct influence and does intervene..through the Holy Spirit..especially when we're suffering.

 

Yes, through the Holy Spirit, but not directly. . .

[OneLight]

Isn't the Holy Spirit God too?  Are you thinking of the Father, and not the Son or the Holy Spirit?

[Floatingaxe]

Perhaps that's another reason why we cannot interact with God personally, he is outside of time, outside of eternity, and unable to "predecide our future" in our dimension.

 

This could be difficult to explain, so let me try something more basic.

 

Perhaps God made Himself unreachable to us in our dimension, so we could have the free will to decide for ourselves if we want a relationship with Him.

 

He is omniscient, but has sealed himself off from our world so we can be left to live our lives freely, and without His direct influence.  That may explain why He doesn't intervene when we are suffering too.

 

I interact with God every day. He is not outside of my time, my dimension. He is not sealed off from the creation He loves, nor does He leave us to live our lives freely. He loves every single human being so much that His Spirit is continuously active in pursuing them. That is direct influence!

 

God does intervene when the righteous intercede.

[kwikphilly]

Bless you,bless you ,bless you DRS!

      LOL...We will really go back to square one  & forth & back!God didn't create the unbeliever,He created a person that chooses(or will choose) not to believe-plus,He gave each & every person their equal portion of faith(a measure of).....As I said originally,just because He knows the outcome( not bound by space or time He IS where we have not yet arrived)does not mean He interfered with our choices.I do not believe that God intended for anyone to deny His Son and refuse His gift of Grace

      We live in a realm that is limited by time,minutes ,hours,days,months years-our temporal & physical life has a span from beginning to end....THE GREAT I  AM is infinite,from Everlasting to Everlasting.........let us suppose  that on July 24th,2018 I am going to convert to Buddism....God knows that because He IS(I AM) there right now as I am making that decision....He did not desire I would do that because His Word says that" He loves us so much.......That no man should perish"(john 3:16)

      How can our mortal ,little minds possibly fully comprehend these things of God.....We can only see & understand in part right  now,Gods Ways are just too Awesome,Magnificent & Wondrous                                    To God be the Glory!!!!!!

                                                                                                                            With love,in Christ-Kwik

[Guest DRS81]

just because He knows the outcome( not bound by space or time He IS where we have not yet arrived)does not mean He interfered with our choices.

 

So God creates people out of love, knows the outcome of their lives, knowing they're going to hell but does not interfere. Why? If you knew something bad was going to happen because of something you created, wouldn't you want to stop it from happening?

[Floatingaxe]

 

just because He knows the outcome( not bound by space or time He IS where we have not yet arrived)does not mean He interfered with our choices.

 

So God creates people out of love, knows the outcome of their lives, knowing they're going to hell but does not interfere. Why? If you knew something bad was going to happen because of something you created, wouldn't you want to stop it from happening?

 

 

 

God intervened 2000 years ago and made a way for man to be saved and cleansed from all sin, so that we won't have to suffer an excruciating eternal death for them. That is love.

 

Romans 5:6-9 (NLT)

⁶ When we were utterly helpless, Christ came at just the right time and died for us sinners. ⁷ Now, most people would not be willing to die for an upright person, though someone might perhaps be willing to die for a person who is especially good. ⁸ But God showed his great love for us by sending Christ to die for us while we were still sinners. ⁹ And since we have been made right in God’s sight by the blood of Christ, he will certainly save us from God’s condemnation.