NT is contradicting to OT?

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The LORD Of Armies

Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts. Jeremiah 15:16

 

He's My Commander, My LORD, My God, My Love

And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. Then saith he to Thomas, reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. John 20:26-28

 

And Hear O Israel, He's Coming Back

The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel. Joel 3:16

 

Maranatha~!

He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. Revelation 22:20

 

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In OT, in Joshua

GOD commanded the Israelites totally killing  the persons in the cities their conquered, even including the kids and infants:

Joshua 11

¹¹And they put to the sword all who were in it, utterly destroying them; there was no one left who breathed, and he burned Hazor with fire.

But in NT, in Matthew 5

43 ‘You have heard that it was said, “You shall love your neighbour and hate your enemy.” ⁴⁴But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you

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So we can use JESUS’ teaching to blame God’s command in Joshua, and even Moses, David, Samuel, killed their enemies without any mercy.

And in Saul’s case, Saul and Israelites had the pity on king Agag, but Samuel killed him according to GOD’s command, and according to JESUS’ teaching in Matthew, Saul is right, Samuel is wrong

 

 

So how to explain the Contradiction

 

 

Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. Romans 12:19

 

Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. Hebrews 13:8

 

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Seriously

Come and hear, all ye that fear God, and I will declare what he hath done for my soul. I cried unto him with my mouth, and he was extolled with my tongue.

 

If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me:

 

But verily God hath heard me; he hath attended to the voice of my prayer.

 

Blessed be God, which hath not turned away my prayer, nor his mercy from me. Psalms 66:16-20

 

Folks

See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand. For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever.

 

If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me. I will make mine arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh; and that with the blood of the slain and of the captives, from the beginning of revenges upon the enemy.

 

Rejoice, O ye nations, with his people: for he will avenge the blood of his servants, and will render vengeance to his adversaries, and will be merciful unto his land, and to his people. Deuteronomy 32:39-43

 

Don't Mess

And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.  His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

 

And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. Revelation 19:11-14

 

With Jesus

And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. Revelation 19:15-16

 

Seriously

And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. Revelation 19:17-19

 

Don't

And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh. Revelation 19:20-21

 

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Be Blessed Beloved

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:
The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:
The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

 

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them. Numbers 6:24-27

 

Love, Your Brother Joe

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Love you Fresno Joe....Hug,,, 

[Edwin]

Thank you silviawang for your topic,  NT is contradicting to OT?

 

Which brougnt to mind the following,

 

A difficult verse to understand.

 

Luk 14:26 "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.

 

Which appears to contradict Divine instructions given at,

 

Deu 5:16 "'Honor your father and your mother, as the LORD your God commanded you, that your days may be long, and that it may go well with you in the land that the LORD your God is giving you. 

 

Help will be much appreciated.

 

Thank you.

 

Edwin.

[*Zion*]

God does not contradict Himself, His Word is perfect and complete, lack nothing, not containing too much.  God loves His creation.  God hates sin.  Man (in the flesh) loves sin and hates God.  God asked: 

 

Isaiah 6:8  Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?

 

And Jesus said:

 

John 13:20  Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

 

But when He comes again, it shall not be as the Lamb of God, but  as the Lion of Judah.  Not in mercy, but in judgement.  He is still the same God.

 

Exodus 33:19

And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the Lord before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy.

 

 

Who will He show mercy to?  All those who accept it.  No one can force love on anyone.  But He did more than meet us half way.

[kwikphilly]

Hello paredwin,

 Welcome to Worthy and God bless you....I understand your confusion about the seemingly contradiction in the two verses you have singled out....I am going to try to simplify it so that you can really see that the Word of God NEVER contradicts,the Word of God....God is not the author of confusion....here goes(lol)

      In Dueteronomy 5:16 we are commanded by God to honor our mother and father...in doing so we are blessed with longevity

     Now in Luke 14:26 Jesus is explaining the true devotion that He wants....how can He possibly express the kind of love and devotion that this would mean...So He uses something that we could understand,our parents,our own children,the ones that we hold dearest in our hearts...this is only a point of comparison so that those that love him are expected to love Him even more than we love our very own parents,our children....We would never understand what He meant if He were to simply say"Love me and be devoted to me as I am for You"....so He uses the emotions that we know so very well....the devotion to our parents.our children ,any of our very own flesh and blood must take second place to our devotion to Him,,,

     Jesus never wants that we should hate anyone ,not even our enemies....so we know just by knowing Him that He is not looking for us to hate but to love,even more than we have ever known........Our Father in Heaven loves us so much that He did not spare His very own Son for our sakes...is this a God that would want us to hate?

     I hope you have been encouraged by His Word to pray for the Wisdom and Guidance of the Holy Spirit and He will reveal His Will to You,He will reveal Himself.....God bless you

                                                                                           With love,in Christ-Kwik