Do or Done

[Openly Curious]

Do you do your religion or is it done?

 

I saw this on a sign and thought I would post it to see what others think about it from a biblical perspective.  I found it to be thought provoking none the less.

[Willa]

It is done, and now, in gratitude I follow Him and do.

[other one]

what do you mean by that word religion?

[Openly Curious]

what do you mean by that word religion?

 

Hi other one,  Well other one I personally think religion is your personal relationship (fellowship, standing) with Christ.  Basically it is your Christianity or walk with the Lord in His eyes and yours.  I know that may not be a text book definition per say but it's my belief in short form.

 

Now that was my personal meaning.  But I want to point out that it was a "sign"  someone put up that I read in passing it with these words on it "Do you do your religion or is it done?"  Since I personally did not use the word religion or write and put up the sign.   I cannot speak or give the person(s) "definition or meaning" for their use of the word "religion".  Sorry about that but it was just a sign hope my reply helped. 

 

 

[Openly Curious]

It is done, and now, in gratitude I follow Him and do.

 

 

Hi Willamina, thanks for your reply a heart of gratitude can go along long ways can't it.   When you think and comprehend understanding on a personal level (me) what all Christ "really" did for us through his death, burial and resurrection it's humbling.  Especially knowing Christ was not required or had to submit himself "a willing sacrifice" but he did out of love for us.  Thus demonstrating and showing the heavenly Father love to us on a personal level as well as to all in the world past and present.

 

Your response made me think of apostle Paul's words found in...

 

Romans 4:4-  - Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt . 

 

My interpretation of the above scripture is one of service from a heart of gratitude we follow and do.

[other one]

 

what do you mean by that word religion?

 

Hi other one,  Well other one I personally think religion is your personal relationship (fellowship, standing) with Christ.  Basically it is your Christianity or walk with the Lord in His eyes and yours.  I know that may not be a text book definition per say but it's my belief in short form.

 

Now that was my personal meaning.  But I want to point out that it was a "sign"  someone put up that I read in passing it with these words on it "Do you do your religion or is it done?"  Since I personally did not use the word religion or write and put up the sign.   I cannot speak or give the person(s) "definition or meaning" for their use of the word "religion".  Sorry about that but it was just a sign hope my reply helped. 

 

in that case I'd have to sat both   the Bible's definition of true religion is a bit different and would cause a different answer.

[Openly Curious]

 

 

what do you mean by that word religion?

 

Hi other one,  Well other one I personally think religion is your personal relationship (fellowship, standing) with Christ.  Basically it is your Christianity or walk with the Lord in His eyes and yours.  I know that may not be a text book definition per say but it's my belief in short form.

 

Now that was my personal meaning.  But I want to point out that it was a "sign"  someone put up that I read in passing it with these words on it "Do you do your religion or is it done?"  Since I personally did not use the word religion or write and put up the sign.   I cannot speak or give the person(s) "definition or meaning" for their use of the word "religion".  Sorry about that but it was just a sign hope my reply helped. 

 

in that case I'd have to sat both   the Bible's definition of true religion is a bit different and would cause a different answer.

 

There are two bible definitions of religion found in one verse of scripture.  I will use only one the scripture is found in.....

 

James 1:27 - Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this...#1)To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction..."and" #2) To keep himself unspotted from the world.

 

How does the bible's definition of true religion cause a different answer if you don't mind me asking?

 

I see the bible's definition and example of true religion as both a doing and done religion.   Just as Christ loved and cared for us when he didn't have too.  But he out of love gave himself willingly on the cross.  Thus giving and making provision for us in the flesh to be saved and sustained us in this life and in the next.    It is through Christ's example to humanity (the world) and to us individually we know what true love and giving is all about.  Christ he gave to us what was necessary (provisions) to sustain us spiritually.  The Father showed his love to us by giving his only begotten Son.  Jesus gave himself willingly on the cross as the sacrificial lamb, his body the true bread from heaven so we could have everlasting life (eternal salvation).  God out of love gave and sent to humanity his only begotten Son Jesus Christ. 

 

But in no wise was the suffering Jesus went through on the cross in our stead a required work that Jesus had to do because he didn't have too give himself as the sacrifice for our sins and trespasses against God.   Instead Christ's work on the cross it was done out of love for fallen man.  The work of love he laid down and gave freely his life on the cross not willing that any should perish but have everlasting life. 

 

When we could do nothing, when we were powerless, helpless and could not take away the guilt of our tresspasses and sins.  Christ came and gave himself preserving us eternally.

 

So in this vein I don't think personally it is a required work that I have to perform.  I don't have to have compassion or love for a woman who lost her husband (the widows) and was left with small children (the fatherless).  I don't have to show compassion in their struggles (afflictions) that arise from having no provider left without provisions to take care of themselves in this life.  I don't have to help those who are not able to care and provide for themselves in order for me to be saved. 

 

But however certainly I would personally have to question my own personal walk and fellowship with the Lord if I shut up my bowels of compassion from those who cannot care for themselves in this life by way of provision.  In other words my own conscious would "condemn" me.  I would have to highly question having the love of God in my own life by not giving and showing love and compassion in these type circumstances.  Especially after being shown and taught by God and Jesus what true love and giving is about.     

 

So that's the reason why I ask why the answer would be different based on a bible definition.  

   

[Fez]

Unfortunately the word "religion" has been given a bad connotation by the world and some churches. I am uncomfortable when someone asks "are you religious?' in a well meaning way, because I have seen "religious" people who live under the law.

 

I prefer to say I believe in the lord Jesus Christ.

[other one]

 

 

 

what do you mean by that word religion?

 

Hi other one,  Well other one I personally think religion is your personal relationship (fellowship, standing) with Christ.  Basically it is your Christianity or walk with the Lord in His eyes and yours.  I know that may not be a text book definition per say but it's my belief in short form.

 

Now that was my personal meaning.  But I want to point out that it was a "sign"  someone put up that I read in passing it with these words on it "Do you do your religion or is it done?"  Since I personally did not use the word religion or write and put up the sign.   I cannot speak or give the person(s) "definition or meaning" for their use of the word "religion".  Sorry about that but it was just a sign hope my reply helped. 

 

in that case I'd have to sat both   the Bible's definition of true religion is a bit different and would cause a different answer.

 

There are two bible definitions of religion found in one verse of scripture.  I will use only one the scripture is found in.....

 

James 1:27 - Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this...#1)To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction..."and" #2) To keep himself unspotted from the world.

 

How does the bible's definition of true religion cause a different answer if you don't mind me asking?

 

I see the bible's definition and example of true religion as both a doing and done religion.   Just as Christ loved and cared for us when he didn't have too.  But he out of love gave himself willingly on the cross.  Thus giving and making provision for us in the flesh to be saved and sustained us in this life and in the next.    It is through Christ's example to humanity (the world) and to us individually we know what true love and giving is all about.  Christ he gave to us what was necessary (provisions) to sustain us spiritually.  The Father showed his love to us by giving his only begotten Son.  Jesus gave himself willingly on the cross as the sacrificial lamb, his body the true bread from heaven so we could have everlasting life (eternal salvation).  God out of love gave and sent to humanity his only begotten Son Jesus Christ. 

 

But in no wise was the suffering Jesus went through on the cross in our stead a required work that Jesus had to do because he didn't have too give himself as the sacrifice for our sins and trespasses against God.   Instead Christ's work on the cross it was done out of love for fallen man.  The work of love he laid down and gave freely his life on the cross not willing that any should perish but have everlasting life. 

 

When we could do nothing, when we were powerless, helpless and could not take away the guilt of our tresspasses and sins.  Christ came and gave himself preserving us eternally.

 

So in this vein I don't think personally it is a required work that I have to perform.  I don't have to have compassion or love for a woman who lost her husband (the widows) and was left with small children (the fatherless).  I don't have to show compassion in their struggles (afflictions) that arise from having no provider left without provisions to take care of themselves in this life.  I don't have to help those who are not able to care and provide for themselves in order for me to be saved. 

 

But however certainly I would personally have to question my own personal walk and fellowship with the Lord if I shut up my bowels of compassion from those who cannot care for themselves in this life by way of provision.  In other words my own conscious would "condemn" me.  I would have to highly question having the love of God in my own life by not giving and showing love and compassion in these type circumstances.  Especially after being shown and taught by God and Jesus what true love and giving is about.     

 

So that's the reason why I ask why the answer would be different based on a bible definition.  

   

 

because to us it is not done....  it's doing. doesn't end from the definition ..  helping others and keeping ourselves  spotless.....   and that would be my definition of religion....   relationships are not religion.  so it would be different.  it is do (technically Doing, but never done.

 

thought provoking... yes and those are my thoughts.  

 

btw are you raising your voice to me when you bold things...  I need to know whether or not to be offended

[Openly Curious]

 

 

 

 

what do you mean by that word religion?

 

Hi other one,  Well other one I personally think religion is your personal relationship (fellowship, standing) with Christ.  Basically it is your Christianity or walk with the Lord in His eyes and yours.  I know that may not be a text book definition per say but it's my belief in short form.

 

Now that was my personal meaning.  But I want to point out that it was a "sign"  someone put up that I read in passing it with these words on it "Do you do your religion or is it done?"  Since I personally did not use the word religion or write and put up the sign.   I cannot speak or give the person(s) "definition or meaning" for their use of the word "religion".  Sorry about that but it was just a sign hope my reply helped. 

 

in that case I'd have to sat both   the Bible's definition of true religion is a bit different and would cause a different answer.

 

There are two bible definitions of religion found in one verse of scripture.  I will use only one the scripture is found in.....

 

James 1:27 - Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this...#1)To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction..."and" #2) To keep himself unspotted from the world.

 

How does the bible's definition of true religion cause a different answer if you don't mind me asking?

 

I see the bible's definition and example of true religion as both a doing and done religion.   Just as Christ loved and cared for us when he didn't have too.  But he out of love gave himself willingly on the cross.  Thus giving and making provision for us in the flesh to be saved and sustained us in this life and in the next.    It is through Christ's example to humanity (the world) and to us individually we know what true love and giving is all about.  Christ he gave to us what was necessary (provisions) to sustain us spiritually.  The Father showed his love to us by giving his only begotten Son.  Jesus gave himself willingly on the cross as the sacrificial lamb, his body the true bread from heaven so we could have everlasting life (eternal salvation).  God out of love gave and sent to humanity his only begotten Son Jesus Christ. 

 

But in no wise was the suffering Jesus went through on the cross in our stead a required work that Jesus had to do because he didn't have too give himself as the sacrifice for our sins and trespasses against God.   Instead Christ's work on the cross it was done out of love for fallen man.  The work of love he laid down and gave freely his life on the cross not willing that any should perish but have everlasting life. 

 

When we could do nothing, when we were powerless, helpless and could not take away the guilt of our tresspasses and sins.  Christ came and gave himself preserving us eternally.

 

So in this vein I don't think personally it is a required work that I have to perform.  I don't have to have compassion or love for a woman who lost her husband (the widows) and was left with small children (the fatherless).  I don't have to show compassion in their struggles (afflictions) that arise from having no provider left without provisions to take care of themselves in this life.  I don't have to help those who are not able to care and provide for themselves in order for me to be saved. 

 

But however certainly I would personally have to question my own personal walk and fellowship with the Lord if I shut up my bowels of compassion from those who cannot care for themselves in this life by way of provision.  In other words my own conscious would "condemn" me.  I would have to highly question having the love of God in my own life by not giving and showing love and compassion in these type circumstances.  Especially after being shown and taught by God and Jesus what true love and giving is about.     

 

So that's the reason why I ask why the answer would be different based on a bible definition.  

   

 

because to us it is not done....  it's doing. doesn't end from the definition ..  helping others and keeping ourselves  spotless.....   and that would be my definition of religion....   relationships are not religion.  so it would be different.  it is do (technically Doing, but never done.

 

thought provoking... yes and those are my thoughts.  

 

btw are you raising your voice to me when you bold things...  I need to know whether or not to be offended

 

 

Be at peace other one I'm not shouting at you nor would I.    I only bold, highlight, underline etc., only for emphasis to the readers so as I'm not being misunderstood in what I am saying and not saying.   People I find tend to want to say your saying or thinking something when your not.  I just want it to be clear you know for the sake of discussion.