It's simple really!

[Fez]

I'm not sure what your driving at, yes we see Jesus does love Peter and Jesus takes Peters hand, Peter was also crusified upside down on a cross, what would you be suggesting that Peter didn't have enough faith to protect him from satan and those who wanted to kill Christianity, maybe Peter wasn't fully surrendered?.....I have no idea where your going with the question of what does it mean to be loved by God.

 

I can tell you what it doesn't mean, It doesn't mean that you will escape being killed by the enemies of God

we see from the words Jesus own mouth that it very well may be a death sentence to anyone who decides to follow Him

 

Perhaps I am not explaining myself well enough Michael.

 

I am not singling you out here, but using (as I have done with others posts), comments made to try and get people to think.

 

We all confess our love for Jesus as professing Christians, it is sort of a given (and quite easy to say). But when asked the question "tell me what it means to you that God loves you, what does that love mean?" we all can repeat by rote that he sent His son to die for us on the Cross, washed us free of our sins, and has forgiven us. And to many that's what it has become, rote. (Even in many, many churches)

 

But there is so much More to God's love in our daily lives! We live under an open heaven, the curtain between His kingdom and us was torn apart and the kingdom revealed. Revelation, from the Latin "Vellum", or veil, the lifting of the veil. Open skies!

 

And yet we struggle and strive under a veil that is not there. it is our own construct. We postulate with no solid scriptural backing of things we no nothing of, and have no control over, like His second coming. We place too much importance on things over which we have no control. Instead of accepting His love, and in turn loving Him. Much of what we do and say here on this Ministry site, and I will say it again, leads me to despair of our understanding of His Great love. 

 

What we do have control over, singular and collective, is preparing His bride as spotless and unblemished.

 

Because that's when He is coming back to claim His bride, when she is spotless and without blemish (so that's not strictly scriptural, sue me!).

 

And no alien, demon, locust, rust, mammon, should be standing in our way without trembling in fear of His great Love. But first we need to understand what that love is.

 

(and as an aside man and bopeep - that's why we should be going to church, Jesus is coming for His bride, his church, and that is scriptural)

[other one]

this thread is totally fascinating...

[alphaparticle]

I admit, I don't get it at all. I don't see how discussing topics that interest people, such as politics, means they don't get God's love. That's not an inference that seems valid.

[Guest man]

this thread is totally fascinating...

 

 

It's also very telling.

[Hindsfeet]

Perhaps its the opposite thats true.

Maybe those who are intrigued by demons, ufos, etc.,  Are, in fact, Secure in their love for God, and Gods love for them.

Who can determine?

Perhaps the Lord is working on honing certain spiritual gifts in different people, some such as Faith, others, Discernment.

[other one]

 

this thread is totally fascinating...

 

 

It's also very telling.

 

Exactly...

[Fez]

 

I admit, I don't get it at all. I don't see how discussing topics that interest people, such as politics, means they don't get God's love. That's not an inference that seems valid.

 

 

I don't understand that either.

 

 

Another thing I don't understand is, why do those who attend church automatically assume that non-church goers are ignorant and void of any understanding?

 

Alpha, tell me what God's love means to you, what does it mean? Not you love for Him, His for you?

 

Man I answered your church concern in the previous post to this one.

[Fez]

 

 

this thread is totally fascinating...

 

 

It's also very telling.

 

Exactly...

 

Precisely...

[Guest man]

...tell me what God's love means to you, what does it mean? Not you love for Him, His for you?

 

 

Just out of curiosity, what does it mean if someone is unable to answer that question?

 

You make it sound as if the answer to that question determines one's standing with the Lord.

[alphaparticle]

 

 

I admit, I don't get it at all. I don't see how discussing topics that interest people, such as politics, means they don't get God's love. That's not an inference that seems valid.

 

 

I don't understand that either.

 

 

Another thing I don't understand is, why do those who attend church automatically assume that non-church goers are ignorant and void of any understanding?

 

Alpha, tell me what God's love means to you, what does it mean? Not you love for Him, His for you?

 

Man I answered your church concern in the previous post to this one.

 

I don't mind answering that fez, but first, is that a rhetorical request? And second, I wonder how is it relevant to what I asked. Why would enjoying discussing or even debating politics imply that the people who engage in those things don't understand God's love?