Reasons Why God Allows Suffering?

[Guest shiloh357]

Suffering to God's people is caused by Satan (the one who brings the sickness and disease and poverty, etc, obviously outside of examples of stupidity, like someone causing their own problems (but one would be hard pressed to say that those actions/habits are not rooted somewhere in Satan's activities in that person's life or family)).

 

But God promised to bring suffering, sickness and disease on His own people (Deut. 28: 22-23, 27, 28-29, 35-36, 59-61, 63).  How do you account for what God said in those verses?

 

The snakes in question I already said in an earlier post: simply, in the Hebrew it says there that God removed His hand (because the people didn't want Him (just as a rebellious child today can engender serious consequences for themselves when they willfully desire the removal of their parent's hand(s)) and the snakes that were already there, and had been there, were then free to overtake them.

Sorry, but you are mistaken.   The Hebrew word for "sent" in Numbers 21:6 is shalakh and it means to send forth.  It's derivative, shiliakh, is the Hebrew equivalent to the Greek word for apostle and means "sent one."    There is no doubt that it is is used in Numb. 21:6 to refer to God sending the snakes.  There is no other way to tranlsate it in as used in this verse. 

 

Evil spirit one with Saul I have never investigated the original Hebrew there; at a glance, it would seem that since Saul had left the covenant (look at Jeremiah 17:5-6 for an example of how someone can be considered one of God's people yet not get what God promised because they have departed from God in their heart (in unbelief at the Covenant), and looking at Jeremiah 17:7-8 you can see God's people who DO have God established in their hearts (like the man in Psalm 112) and get what God says) and he was after God's anointed, God had to protect David.

 

Jeremiah 17:5-9 does not say anything about someone departing from the covenant.  But that is really neither here nor there.   The fact is that the text clearly says it was an evil spirit from the Lord.  There is no way around that.

[other one]

Maybe it's simply an object lesson to the universe showing the results of Satan running amuck in the universe....   Pain and suffering seems to be everywhere satan is......   and when people turn away from God, the old devil is always right there among them.

[Guest shiloh357]

Maybe it's simply an object lesson to the universe showing the results of Satan running amuck in the universe....   Pain and suffering seems to be everywhere satan is......   and when people turn away from God, the old devil is always right there among them.

The text says it was an evil spirit from the Lord. 

[other one]

 

Maybe it's simply an object lesson to the universe showing the results of Satan running amuck in the universe....   Pain and suffering seems to be everywhere satan is......   and when people turn away from God, the old devil is always right there among them.

The text says it was an evil spirit from the Lord. 

 

yeah, but it was not for Satan running amuck across the land, it would not have been necessary.   I didn't intend to mean that it all came from Satan, just because of him.

[GoldenEagle]

I would be interested in people's thoughts on Laura Story's song...



Laura's husband was diagnosed with a brain tumor when they were about 2 years into their marriage. It has been a very difficult road. Yet, today after 10 years of marriage she was able to concieve and have her first child. Her husband this year for the first time in their marriage is working part-time as a coach.

Edited December 16, 2013 by GoldenEagle

[Denadii]

On 11/11/2013 at 2:19 PM, GoldenEagle said:

 

As a follow-up or split from this thread:

 

1. Do you agree with this article and this list presented? Can you think of other reasons?

 

2. What role does God play in suffering?

 

3. What role do we as Christians play in suffering? Which of these reasons resonates the most with you?

 

God bless,

GE

What type of suffering are we talking here?  Physical, mental and emotional, suffering attacks from other people because of our beliefs?  What?   The fact of the matter is....God does not allow suffering in this world...We Christians do.

[OldCoot]

The book of Ruth is one of the examples in scripture that show individual suffering led to a greater good.  If Elimilech and Naomi and their sons had not gone to Moab, then Ruth would have never come to Israel to be part of the lineage of the Messiah.  Thru Elimilech's, Mahlon's, and Chilon's death, Boaz would never have become the kinsman redeemer to Naomi and Ruth and not the husband of Ruth and the lineage from with the Messiah would come.   While we may not be aware of why suffering may be happening, we have to rely on the Lord's promises that all things work for good to those that love and trust Him.