WorthyNewsBot Posted February 27, 2014 Group: Bots Followers: 3 Topic Count: 39,879 Topics Per Day: 6.44 Content Count: 44,480 Content Per Day: 7.19 Reputation: 987 Days Won: 2 Joined: 06/06/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted February 27, 2014 The United States warned Russia on Wednesday against military intervention in Ukraine and said any incursion could lead to a broad international backlash.View the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted February 27, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted February 27, 2014 The United States, United Nations and others would react, Kerry said, without specifying how. Â Â You mean like you did with North Korea and Syria? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchool2 Posted February 27, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 701 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,511 Content Per Day: 1.34 Reputation: 1,759 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1955 Share Posted February 27, 2014 "Kerry suggested it would be hypocritical for Russia to send in forces after objecting so forcefully to outside military action in Syria and Libya, but he also stressed that Washington is not looking for a fight ... "'There’s got to be some reality here,' Kerry said. 'I don’t think it’s enough for us to be heralding the advent of democracy and to applaud the courage and conviction of the people who brought about this transition and then just not do anything ...'" But the "reality" is that nothing is exactly what the US is going to do, and Putin knows it. So where's Obama's "courage and conviction"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevenseas Posted February 27, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,373 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 683 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/28/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted February 27, 2014 wars and rumors of wars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted February 28, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted February 28, 2014 I'm starting to find the situation there to be rather bothersome....   can't put my finger on just why, but it really bothers me.  The stakes are kind of high for Russia and dumb mistakes that cause global wars come out of situations like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted February 28, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I'm starting to find the situation there to be rather bothersome....   can't put my finger on just why, but it really bothers me.  The stakes are kind of high for Russia and dumb mistakes that cause global wars come out of situations like this.  Former Chicago "Community Organizer" vs. former head of KGB.  What's there to be bothered about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_S Posted March 1, 2014 Group: Servant Followers: 25 Topic Count: 275 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 5,208 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 1,893 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted March 1, 2014 I'm starting to find the situation there to be rather bothersome....   can't put my finger on just why, but it really bothers me.  The stakes are kind of high for Russia and dumb mistakes that cause global wars come out of situations like this.  It's a valid concern anytime troops are crossing borders in europe. And, yes, this is how global wars can start, though, I don't expect that to happen in this particular case. At the end of the day the only way that the US could stop russia from taking ukraine is with direct military intervention. Doing that could lead to a far wider conflict that could end up involving nuclear weapons. I'm not willing for that to happen, I'm sure very few are. Putin feels that he has obama pegged. From now until obama is no longer president, for the US to tell russia to do or not to do anything will be pointless, because Putin will not believe it has teeth of any sort, he will call every single bluff obama makes from here on out.  Just like this thing with the russian parliament "approving" force in ukraine. It's not shocking at all that this comes the day after obama goes on television and tells russia not to mess with ukraine. It may have never even went before russian parliament had obama not said that? Putin certainly doesn't need parliament's approval to act. This seems like it was their way of announcing it to the world, a day after the US president made the strongest statement of it yet. Bottom line, from here on out, us getting involved in affairs with russia in a public an open manner is only going to make matters worse, not better, in my opinion, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakWood Posted March 1, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.24 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Share Posted March 1, 2014 The people of Eastern Ukraine support Putin and want to do business with Russia - the people of Western Ukraine want to join the EU. Let them fight it out between themselves. I know who I would prefer.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted March 1, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted March 1, 2014  I'm starting to find the situation there to be rather bothersome....   can't put my finger on just why, but it really bothers me.  The stakes are kind of high for Russia and dumb mistakes that cause global wars come out of situations like this.  It's a valid concern anytime troops are crossing borders in europe. And, yes, this is how global wars can start, though, I don't expect that to happen in this particular case. At the end of the day the only way that the US could stop russia from taking ukraine is with direct military intervention. Doing that could lead to a far wider conflict that could end up involving nuclear weapons. I'm not willing for that to happen, I'm sure very few are. Putin feels that he has obama pegged. From now until obama is no longer president, for the US to tell russia to do or not to do anything will be pointless, because Putin will not believe it has teeth of any sort, he will call every single bluff obama makes from here on out.  Just like this thing with the russian parliament "approving" force in ukraine. It's not shocking at all that this comes the day after obama goes on television and tells russia not to mess with ukraine. It may have never even went before russian parliament had obama not said that? Putin certainly doesn't need parliament's approval to act. This seems like it was their way of announcing it to the world, a day after the US president made the strongest statement of it yet. Bottom line, from here on out, us getting involved in affairs with russia in a public an open manner is only going to make matters worse, not better, in my opinion, of course.   I think that's what is bothering me....   Putin doesn't think that Obama has teeth, but what if Obama is pushed by circumstances and his own military to bite.... what happens then....   I don't see Obama having the experience in knowing when to do something and when not...  Add to that the number of people who would not mind lowering the population of the world by about 5 billion people and you have a different situation......  and a lot of those people are in the UN....    I can't put my finger on any one thing yet, but there are red flags everywhere...   That area is simply too important to Russia to let it completely go western... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_S Posted March 1, 2014 Group: Servant Followers: 25 Topic Count: 275 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 5,208 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 1,893 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted March 1, 2014   I'm starting to find the situation there to be rather bothersome....   can't put my finger on just why, but it really bothers me.  The stakes are kind of high for Russia and dumb mistakes that cause global wars come out of situations like this.  It's a valid concern anytime troops are crossing borders in europe. And, yes, this is how global wars can start, though, I don't expect that to happen in this particular case. At the end of the day the only way that the US could stop russia from taking ukraine is with direct military intervention. Doing that could lead to a far wider conflict that could end up involving nuclear weapons. I'm not willing for that to happen, I'm sure very few are. Putin feels that he has obama pegged. From now until obama is no longer president, for the US to tell russia to do or not to do anything will be pointless, because Putin will not believe it has teeth of any sort, he will call every single bluff obama makes from here on out.  Just like this thing with the russian parliament "approving" force in ukraine. It's not shocking at all that this comes the day after obama goes on television and tells russia not to mess with ukraine. It may have never even went before russian parliament had obama not said that? Putin certainly doesn't need parliament's approval to act. This seems like it was their way of announcing it to the world, a day after the US president made the strongest statement of it yet. Bottom line, from here on out, us getting involved in affairs with russia in a public an open manner is only going to make matters worse, not better, in my opinion, of course.   I think that's what is bothering me....   Putin doesn't think that Obama has teeth, but what if Obama is pushed by circumstances and his own military to bite.... what happens then....   I don't see Obama having the experience in knowing when to do something and when not...  Add to that the number of people who would not mind lowering the population of the world by about 5 billion people and you have a different situation......  and a lot of those people are in the UN....    I can't put my finger on any one thing yet, but there are red flags everywhere...   That area is simply too important to Russia to let it completely go western...   If putin actually thought obama would send in troops, I doubt he'd have done this. I don't think he wants a huge war against the US. It's clear that he doesn't. If obama all of the sudden decides that this is the moment to make a stand against putin and does so in a sporadic and unexpected manner, the likelihood is the breakout of legitimate war. I don't see a war between russia and the US (where there is direct on the ground engagement) not degrading into a nuclear conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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