are we madly fall in love with Jesus or the world?

[Guest shiloh357]

So when the Bible states that God is love, it only means that He acts like He is?

 

Biblically, agape is something you do, not something you feel.  God's love is revealed in what He does, not in emotion.  God is all that He does.  God is benevolent, redemptive, merciful, holy, gracious, just, etc.  All those are wrapped up in John's use of that phrase, "God is love." (I Jn. 4;8)

 

That is what you state when you say love is not an emotion.  Of course it is an emotion in the Bible...the Bible is filled with emotions and even describes God as having emotions.

 

Nowhere in the Bible is love an emotion.   I am not saying God doesn't have emotions.  I am saying that love is seen not in feeling, but in doing.

Yes, love acts in love...however, to say one acts like an emotionless creature because the Bible tells us how love ACTS is not correct IMO

 

You are confusing love with affection.  Your affection is justified by truly loving a person in word and in deed.

Where do the words compassionate, kind, long-suffering fit in as they are all parts of the description of how love BEHAVES

 

If Jesus did not feel any emotion, surely He would not have cried over Jerusalem?

 

Do people FEEL for others because it is dictated they should, or because they have a heart that weeps when others weep and laughs when others laugh?

 

Again, not saying that Jesus and the Father do not have emotions.  Just saying that love, in the Bible is never defined in emotional terms.  God expresses affection, anger, grief, happiness, etc.

 

 

I do not believe you can make a case for love being only an action and not a genuine emotion.  That sounds an awful lot like fear to me, and perfect love, God's love, casts out fear.

 

Actually, you cannot find one place in the Bible where love for God is defined in emotional terms, certainly not in romantic terms, like being "in love" with Him.

 

I can promise you I love God biblically...how on earth would I or anyone else love God unbiblically?

 

By  couching one's relationship with God in romantic terms.

The Bible says that the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts.......I am sure you know what the Bible means by heart...it does not mean the beating organ in our chest....

 

I'm sorry, but God is love and love feels and love acts

 

Affection is the feeling.  Love is the action.

 

You really cannot have one without the other.    God created us in His image......apparently that includes emotion.

 

Not denying that.  The problem arises in our modern culture when we start expressing our love for God in terms that don't reflect biblical love.

 

I would be scared of a god that had no feelings and only acted out of a sense of His own righteousness...

 

You might have a point had that been what I was contending for.

[Sevenseas]

 

So when the Bible states that God is love, it only means that He acts like He is?

 

Biblically, agape is something you do, not something you feel.  God's love is revealed in what He does, not in emotion.  God is all that He does.  God is benevolent, redemptive, merciful, holy, gracious, just, etc.  All those are wrapped up in John's use of that phrase, "God is love." (I Jn. 4;8)

 

yes...God's love is an action...he does something about it...however, I don't think you can draw the conclusion that no feelings are involved...God demonstrates His love to us in sending His Son...I think that

you may be reading less, rather than the usual more, in stating there is no emotion in God's love

 

That is what you state when you say love is not an emotion.  Of course it is an emotion in the Bible...the Bible is filled with emotions and even describes God as having emotions.

 

Nowhere in the Bible is love an emotion.   I am not saying God doesn't have emotions.  I am saying that love is seen not in feeling, but in doing.

 

I almost don't know what to say here.  I very quickly agreed that love is used as a verb...but how one draws the conclusion that God has no emotions, when He created us in His image, is well....it leaves me perplexed quite

honestly.  I don't think you can make that arguement...I have never heard it made anywhere.

Yes, love acts in love...however, to say one acts like an emotionless creature because the Bible tells us how love ACTS is not correct IMO

 

You are confusing love with affection.  Your affection is justified by truly loving a person in word and in deed.

 

No, I'm not confused.  Really.  I'm not even responding with human love here...I am addressing God's love which you state is action only...and I say that real love is backed up by action.....

Where do the words compassionate, kind, long-suffering fit in as they are all parts of the description of how love BEHAVES

 

If Jesus did not feel any emotion, surely He would not have cried over Jerusalem?

 

Do people FEEL for others because it is dictated they should, or because they have a heart that weeps when others weep and laughs when others laugh?

 

Again, not saying that Jesus and the Father do not have emotions.  Just saying that love, in the Bible is never defined in emotional terms.  God expresses affection, anger, grief, happiness, etc.

 

Right.....everything but love......got it......    Love is defined by what we should do, not that we should not feel.  So if you 'felt' love for God, would you be concerned?  Do you 'feel' nothing for God

rather than an expectation that you should obey?  Have you truly never experienced any feeling for God?  (I'm not being sarcastic here...I wanted to define that because I am kind of perplexed

as to why you believe that love as expressed by God, is without emotion.  Please note that I totally agree that love is an action...so no need to continue to emphasize that...I do not see that as

a reason or biblical command not to feel emotion though)

 

 

I do not believe you can make a case for love being only an action and not a genuine emotion.  That sounds an awful lot like fear to me, and perfect love, God's love, casts out fear.

 

Actually, you cannot find one place in the Bible where love for God is defined in emotional terms, certainly not in romantic terms, like being "in love" with Him.

 

Let's be fair here...I have never one time mentionned God as a lover or my boyfriend.  I have also stated several times I do not use the term 'in love with...God or Jesus'...but I find no reason to defen

saying that I love God in an emotional sense that actually creates the desire to ACT in a manner that demonstrates I follow and want to show Christ's love to others.  You may not like people saying

they are in love with God or Jesus, and again, it is not an expression I use, but I suspect they are simply trying to say how much the actually do love and that God has filled their heart.

 

I am beginning to suspect that you may actually be uncomfortable with those terms.  Perhaps, God is not uncomfortable.  Jesus allowed his feet to be annointed and washed with the tears of a

woman who poured a costly perfume over them in the presence of men who were no doubt VERY uncomfortable with her act...as they showed by objecting.  

 

And there was a woman in the city who was a sinner; and when she learned that He was reclining at the table in the Pharisee's house, she brought an alabaster vial of perfume, 38and standing behind Him at His feet, weeping, she began to wet His feet with her tears, and kept wiping them with the hair of her head, and kissing His feet and anointing them with the perfume. 39Now when the Pharisee who had invited Him saw this, he said to himself, "If this man were a prophet He would know who and what sort of person this woman is who is touching Him, that she is a sinner."

 

If you fail to see the emotion displayed in that scene, than you are simply denying what actually happened IMO....

 

Jesus said her sins were forgiven....taht creates love you know...that creates an emotional response

 

We love God because He first loved us

 

I can promise you I love God biblically...how on earth would I or anyone else love God unbiblically?

 

By  couching one's relationship with God in romantic terms.

 

uh huh...but I haven't done that at all and you still object.   You may be missing something here....but I think most of us get what I am saying because again, I have never ever heard anyone...and I've been around a bit....

say that love has no emotion when discussing God

 

Saying that the original languages do not have room for emotion in them, is not proof of what you are trying to convey.  The intent is there in the same manner in which we understand that God is three persons in one

and not just one even though the Israelites said our God is one.  Deut

 

A person who loves God may 'couch' that love in what you think is romantic terms, but perhaps that is still a true expression of love to God...I do not think you can judge otherwise unless you can look into

the person's heart and see deceit there

The Bible says that the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts.......I am sure you know what the Bible means by heart...it does not mean the beating organ in our chest....

 

I'm sorry, but God is love and love feels and love acts

 

Affection is the feeling.  Love is the action.

 

Almost seems like you might be splitting hairs here.......sacrifical love is far more than affection I can asure you...far more...both in marriage and in God's economy as well

 

You really cannot have one without the other.    God created us in His image......apparently that includes emotion.

 

Not denying that.  The problem arises in our modern culture when we start expressing our love for God in terms that don't reflect biblical love.

 

Well what culture should people express themselves in?  Greek?  sorry, but we live in the culture we live in...and I think people are simply responding in the manner they believe express their heart

 

I too am concerned that people have the right understanding of scripture....but that does not include disagreeing with heart matters as I really cannot say...I can only encourage people in truth

 

Truth here, is not as objective as some may be confortable with....when I say love...I don't mean a feeling that leaves you weak in the knees...I mean a determination to please God and

it does leave my heart glowing and I know what human love is and I have had my heart stretched as far as it can go in that direction but yet love with God has purpose and is above that

 

I FEEL it though....it is not just an idea or an action and I think that is what others are saying here

I would be scared of a god that had no feelings and only acted out of a sense of His own righteousness...

 

You might have a point had that been what I was contending for.

 

 

Well I do have a point...       

 

I believe that scripture indicates that God actually created everything because He is love....I don't know about you, but when I love someone (feeling) I want to share and it sounds to me like God

was basically sharing His love and generosity when He created...He wanted to share...sorry of how simple that sounds..by the way, I don't go to 'Got Questions.org' to find answers...I am using the site

because they always provide scripture for the question and because they are balanced IMO and provide a succint response....WITH scripture

 

 

Being made in the image and likeness of God (Genesis 1:27), human beings have the ability to know God and therefore love Him, worship Him, serve Him, and fellowship with Him. God did not create human beings because He needed them. As God, He needs nothing. In all eternity past, He felt no loneliness, so He was not looking for a “friend.” He loves us, but this is not the same as needing us. If we had never existed, God would still be God—the unchanging One (Malachi 3:6). The I AM (Exodus 3:14) was never dissatisfied with His own eternal existence. When He made the universe, He did what pleased Himself, and since God is perfect, His action was perfect. “It was very good” (Genesis 1:31).

Read more:http://www.gotquestions.org/why-did-God-create-us.html#ixzz2xeaIsFpu

 

 

We recognize that the demonstration of emotions does not alter the immutability or permanence of God’s will or His promises. In other words, God does not change (Malachi 3:6;Numbers 23:19;1 Samuel 15:29); He has no mood swings. God’s feelings and actions toward His creation, His judgment and forgiveness, His justice and grace, are all consistent with who He is (James 1:17). God’s responses to good and evil come from His same immutable will. God wills to judge and punish the sinner in order to bring about justice and, correspondingly, to bring the sinner to repentance because He desires that all men be saved (1 Timothy 2:4). We’ve come to know and relate to God as a feeling Person, one who loves and hates, grieves and laughs, feels anger and compassion. He loves the righteous and hates the wicked (Psalm 11:5–7;5:4–5;21:8).

Read more:http://www.gotquestions.org/does-God-have-emotions.html#ixzz2xeRbTpWL

 

The above, while not an indepth study, I believe is accurate ...it's worth reading the entire thing...if anyone cares to address the question from

an ubiased perspective                                  

[kwikphilly]

Blessings Everyone

        Let the words of my mouth & the meditations of my heart be acceptable in YOUR sight,Oh Lord my Strength & my Redeemer........He is the only ONE that matters,can anyone tell another how they must love God except that we are to love Him with ALL of our heart,all of our soul & all of our mind......

     The Word of God says that He knows  my heart even better than I know it myself........Because Shiloh or anyone else sees"in love' in a romantic perspective does not mean that it the way I see it.......

 

Family therapists maintain that "the reason we're attracted to someone at this very deep level is that basically they are like us – in a psychological sense".[3] Others suggest that 'the very act of falling in love sets in motion old patterns of how we love...Falling in love returns us to emotions of infancy and childhood'.[4..is really the closest most of us come to seeing life in its spiritual form"

      I would say I was in love my mom & my dad,& there was nothing romantic about it......I pray to God all the time that I can love as He does with Agape love..........Praise & Glory to God & God Bless those that love Him,just love Him completely with ALL of your heart & call it what you will....

                                                                                                                                                                With love-in Christ,Kwik

[nebula]

You are confusing love with affection.  Your affection is justified by truly loving a person in word and in deed.

 

Is it wrong or unbiblical to have affection towards God?

 

If so, why?

[Guest shiloh357]

 

You are confusing love with affection.  Your affection is justified by truly loving a person in word and in deed.

 

Is it wrong or unbiblical to have affection towards God?

 

If so, why?

 

No it is not.  But it is wrong to couch that affection in a romantic context.  God is not our "lover."  

[Guest shiloh357]

yes...God's love is an action...he does something about it...however, I don't think you can draw the conclusion that no feelings are involved...God demonstrates His love to us in sending His Son...I think that

you may be reading less, rather than the usual more, in stating there is no emotion in God's love

I am not saying no feelings are involved.  I never said that at all.  I am saying that in Scripture “love” is not a feeling or an emotion.  I am not saying that emotions don’t accompany biblical love.  Biblical love, is never defined in Scripture in emotional terms.

I almost don't know what to say here.  I very quickly agreed that love is used as a verb...but how one draws the conclusion that God has no emotions, when He created us in His image, is well....it leaves me perplexed quite

Part of your perplexity might be that I never said that God has no emotions.  I have pointed that out to you in my last response.  I guess you decided to ignore that part.

No, I'm not confused.  Really.  I'm not even responding with human love here...I am addressing God's love which you state is action only...and I say that real love is backed up by action.....

No, you are confused because you keep assigning things to me that I didn’t say.  It might not be so problematic if you took the time to correctly frame my responses and respond to what I actually said.  The definition of love in the Bible isn’t emotional.  I realize that grates agasinst your paradigm where love is concerned, but that is how the Bible defines it.

Love is defined by what we should do, not that we should not feel.  So if you 'felt' love for God, would you be concerned?  Do you 'feel' nothing for God

I feel affection for God.  I love God by obeying Him.   Love is always operateive in nature and even James, in James 2 illustrates the operative nature of love. If you claim to love someone and you feel genuine affection for them, but you do nothing to help them in their time of need, your profession of “love” is worthless.  Lot’s people “love” God emotionally, but they don’t forsake sin, they don’t live holy lives.  They “love” God but they still enjoy dirty or racist jokes, they still visit porn sites and all of that.   They may have some kind of affection for God, they still go to church and sing and participate, but their words and actions don’t agree.  Biblically speaking, no matter what they “feel,”  they don’t love God, according to the Scriptures.

Let's be fair here...I have never one time mentionned God as a lover or my boyfriend.  I have also stated several times I do not use the term 'in love with...God or Jesus'...but I find no reason to defen

saying that I love God in an emotional sense that actually creates the desire to ACT in a manner that demonstrates I follow and want to show Christ's love to others.  You may not like people saying

they are in love with God or Jesus, and again, it is not an expression I use, but I suspect they are simply trying to say how much the actually do love and that God has filled their heart.

I am beginning to suspect that you may actually be uncomfortable with those terms.  Perhaps, God is not uncomfortable.  Jesus allowed his feet to be annointed and washed with the tears of a

woman who poured a costly perfume over them in the presence of men who were no doubt VERY uncomfortable with her act...as they showed by objecting.  

I am not uncomfortable with those terms at all.  It’s just that we should not fall into the error of couching our love for God in romantic/sexual terminology.

If you fail to see the emotion displayed in that scene, than you are simply denying what actually happened IMO....

 Jesus said her sins were forgiven....taht creates love you know...that creates an emotional response

I am not against emotion at all.  I am against using emotion, especially emotion driven by romantic terminlogy being the way we define our relationship with God.  It isn’t how the Bible says we are to relate to God.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

uh huh...but I haven't done that at all and you still object.   You may be missing something here....but I think most of us get what I am saying because again, I have never ever heard anyone...and I've been around a bit....

 

say that love has no emotion when discussing God

And you didn’t read where I said that either.  I said that love isn’t emotion.  I didn’t say that love isn’t accompanied by emotions.   I think the problem here is that you are having a different debate than I am.  I am speaking of those who use romantic terminology to describe their relationship with God.   You seem to be hung up on the whole “emotion” thing and you are so hung up on it that you responding to what you think I am saying and nto what I am actually posting.

 

Well I do have a point...

 

Your “point” only matters in this discussion when it actually addresses what I was saying and contending for.      

[nebula]

You know, at 6:01 am, after my alarm goes off, I am madly in love with my pillow.

[Sevenseas]

Shiloh...I really don't need to say more here.  Your position is not biblical IMO, and it seems you may not understand emotional attachment.

 

I am not trying to convince you of anything...I simply responded for the sake of those who may feel hurt or perhaps confused by you telling them they should not feel anything for God

 

I will leave you to your debate...it's not with me really

 

IMO, you believe something so strongly that you are going to debate for page after page and things may become unhealthy.

 

I believe the Lord has made plain to those of us who both FEEL His love and ACT on that love, that He is indeed LOVE

 

Thanks

[missmuffet]

I think you are getting "I am in love with Jesus" mixed up with intimate passion sexual feelings which has no part of my love statement for Jesus.Their are different degrees of love.The love I have for my children is different than the love I would have for a husband.To a husband I could say "I am passionately in love with you" Now that would be out of place to make a statement like that about Jesus.

[LovelyJoni]

On ‎3‎/‎27‎/‎2014 at 4:10 PM, deafcanada said:

I would like to share with you guys to encourage you and build one other to grow stronger in Lord more than ever before.

 

Are we madly fall in love with Jesus or the world?

 

Jeremiah 50:38 The sword will even strike her water supply, causing it to dry up. And why? Because the whole land is filled with idols, and the people are madly in love with them.

 

Last night, I was playing game on face book that I always do that everyday, and I felt that I am supposed to read His words and I couldn’t go sleep. Something has been pressed hard on my heart. After I cleaned up the kitchen and made lunch for my husband, and I was planning to go bed after that but I felt something that I need to read His words. So I opened the bible and read in Jeremiah 48  till I reached to Jeremiah 50:38 and the words was popped to me and strike me and made me realize about that verse and I was shocked and surprised what Lord has spoke to me. It makes me realize about this verse and I cannot stop dwelling on this verse since I woke up and been thinking about this.  My question is about Am I madly love with those idols (the world) more than Jesus? I realize that I am not supposed to do that and I realized that my spiritual is getting dry because of that. So I had to repented and asked God forgive me for that and I was so determined to stop doing this like omit the apps games in the face book. When I was thinking about that last night and I realized that My house has been madly love with those stuff like watching tv,  having cell phone and been on it all the times, playing games on computer or dwelling on money etc like that and we haven’t put God first in our lives. Things around me that can distract me away from God.

 

So the bible says, Romans 12: 2  Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will his good, pleasing and perfect will.

 

If we do that, we are adultery to this world, the verse says, You adulterers! Don’t you realize that friendship with the world makes you an enemy of God? I say it again: If you want to be a friend of the world, you make yourself an enemy of God.

 

Do you want to be enemy of God or want to be His servant? We have to make that choice to make.

 

 

So that s why God didn’t want us to conform things in the world as he wants us to renewing our minds and be able to please God and doing His will. As we are not supposed to be madly falling love in the world.

 

Revelation 2:5 Yet I hold this against you: You have forsaken the love you had at first.

 

If we had put things in our lives first before God, we need to repent this. And come back to Lord and be madly falling in love with Jesus.

 

James 4: 8

Come close to God, and God will come close to you. Wash your hands, you sinners; purify your hearts, for your loyalty is divided between God and the world. 

 

That s what God wants us to come to God and God will come close to us and repent.

 

 

1 John 2:15

Do not love this world nor the things it offers you, for when you love the world, you do not have the love of the Father in you.

 

It is very strong message, He said Do not love the world or things that means, any idols that you love like money, computers, cell phone, many  things that you can think of. 

 

1 John 2: 16

 For the world offers only a craving for physical pleasure, a craving for everything we see, and pride in our achievements and possessions. These are not from the Father, but are from this world.

 

That things from the world, only give us physical pleasures and craving for everything we see that will lead us away from God and it is not from God at all.

 

1 John 2:17

And this world is fading away, along with everything that people crave. But anyone who does what pleases God will live forever.

 

In the world, nothing can benefit us and nothing can give us any hope. As everything in the world is fading away. It is really sad that people are after those in the world and putting God aside. So that is very important for us to put God first and seek Him more and please Him more that where we will live forever and that is the best hope that we have in God. As nothing in the world can give any hope for us.

 

So if you realize that you have been stepped away from God’s path and realized that you are focusing on things in the world and realize that your spiritual is getting dry and realized that you had been ignoring what you are supposed to do. If that is for you, then  Repent and ask for God forgive you. And give our heart to God completely and put God first in our lives.

 

1 John 1:9

But if we confess our sins to him, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all wickedness.

 

Matthew 6:33

 Seek the Kingdom of God above all else, and live righteously, and he will give you everything you need.

 

 

Matthew 6:24

No one can serve two masters. For you will hate one and love the other; you will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

 

 

So are we madly fall in love with Jesus or the world??  

We cannot serve two masters, we must choose one master, either God or World.

 

Matthew 22: 37

Jesus replied, “‘You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind.’

 

Jesus said we must love the Lord Your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind. That means, all of it not half of it. Meaning full time not part time. So we have to see that we are supposed to put God First in our lives, and commit our lives fully in Lord no matter what. Also we have to stand firm for Jesus Christ no matter what the world offers us. And Hold on to this promises that God will bring us through this.

 

It is ok to have those things but we must put God first in our lives before them.

 

For example, if we get up in the morning, we shouldn’t go to computer first thing to look at face book news, or watching tv news or read news paper, we should stop doing that and start read His Words and Where God can work in our lives daily. And we are supposed to mediate His words day and night and also God can use us for His glory to witness people and bring people to Know Jesus Christ.

 

So right now in the world, you see it is getting worse, and people are dying without Jesus Christ and we are too busy with other things in the world. Like being madly love with the world,  and forgetting God and His words. 

 

Jesus Christ is coming back very soon and we must be ready for Him and He didn’t want anyone to perish and He wants people to be saved.  I believe that God’s time is running out than we think. Every second, every minutes, people are dead without Jesus and is too late for them to have Jesus Christ. It has to stop because People are so precious to God’s eyes. We needed to spread His words to people where people needed to hear. We have to think about this. 

 

AM I MADLY FALL IN LOVE WITH JESUS OR THE WORLD???  Think about it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is something I have to keep in check of regularly an repent of when I feel myself getting too wordly. I wish I could just surrender to the Lord one time and be done with it but it seems I surrender and re-surrender and re-surrender...?