How is this ice bucket thing work

[tigger398]

 

How is this ice bucket helping. Dumping ice water on your head is not money to give.

[MorningGlory]

How is this ice bucket helping. Dumping ice water on your head is not money to give.

It's not.  I think it's a consciousness-awareness exercise.  It's dumb and I, personally, wouldn't do it.  Maybe I'm too old to see the relevance of the whole thing.

[other one]

The ice bucket is a public declaration that you are giving to the ALS research organization that started all this....    It then gives you the right to ask someone else to do the same.

 

So when you see an ice dump, you are looking at someone who has taken the pledge......   and part of that pledge is to donate something to that group.

 

If everyone really does live up to there pledge, it should raise a lot of money.....   and should go down in history as a very good advertising idea..

[Guest Bethany]

The person who dumps ice on their head donates 10 dollars to ALS research (It doesn't have to be to the ALSA foundation as they support embryonic stem cell research (using aborted children to harvest stem cells), you can give to other pro-life organizations). If you decline the ice bucket challenge, you have to give 100 dollars to an ALS research facility.

[Guest LadyC]

how it works is this.

 

someone who has taken the challenge then issues a challenge. the challenge is, within 24 hours you have to get chilled and wet AND donate $10, OR donate $100, to ASLA. 

the ice bucket dumped on your head causes a reaction that some say emulates the symptoms of lou gherig's disease.

 

the TRUTH about the challenge, IMO, is that it amounts to schoolyard bullying. kinda like a grown up version of 'truth or dare'. if you refuse to take the challenge, you're subjected to taunting and teasing, being called (at best) chicken, or (at worse) an unfeeling, uncaring individual. there's no consideration for the fact that many people who have no interest in participating simply have no money. there's no instructions or PSA that individuals with certain medical conditions (including any sort of heart condition) could die as a result. there are no instructions or PSA that if one chooses to do this on a very hot day or after any sort of physical activity that causes one's body temperature to be raised, it could be fatal. there are no instructions or PSA that by doing this, you will end up chilled to the bone for so long that you could end up very sick. there are no instructions or PSA (aside from youtube ice bucket fails videos) that warn you about lifting heavy buckets above your head, or having someone stand on something that they might slip off of, and other things that should be common sense but keep winding up in injuries. there aren't a whole lot of people talking (at least until recently) about where all those donations go. only a fraction goes to helping the people who are afflicted. most of it goes to research... which is fine except that the ASLA makes no apologies for the fact that it openly focuses much of its research on embryonic stem cells.

 

and there are often no instructions that in taking the challenge, one must ALSO still donate $10.

 

there are people who have taken the challenge and chosen to donate to elsewhere, but that's NOT part of the rules of the challenge. people who modify it that way, IMO, are doing nothing to raise awareness for THEIR preferred cause... maybe they're doing it for their 15 seconds of fame on facebook and youtube. or maybe they're doing it because they're afraid to back down from the challenge. or maybe they're doing it because they really want to get cold and wet. who the heck knows. but it violates the "rules" of the challenge.

 

i got challenged. i reluctantly said i'd do it at a time more convenient for myself. ironically, i said i would do it AFTER mowing my lawn when i was so hot i wanted to get cold and wet.... which would be the most physically dangerous time to do it. the ironic part of that? the person who challenged me, and then who chided me for being a "chicken", has been a nurse for 30 years,.. and yet she didn't take a moment to say "hey c, that would be really dangerous." nope, she just teased me for not having the balls to do it. 

 

and i didn't do it.

 

i donate on a regular basis to a local charity that is much nearer and dearer to my heart. it's not that i don't care about those afflicted with lou gherig's disease, but there are SOOO many other causes that are JUST as worthwhile, and JUST as in need of funding. 

[other one]

Well, you better not name me to do it for we have other more pressing diseases in our house to help fund......   I might send it to the MS research people......     but mostly we send it to Bayer who makes the $52,000 a year drug my wife takes to stop the progression of her M.S.

[Guest LadyC]

i wonder if we could start a new challenge and see if it would go viral.... the challenge being to either eat a can of pet food, or to donate a bag of GOOD groceries to the nearest food bank? of course, i'd much rather see video of someone dropping off a bag of groceries than to eat cat food.

[Guest Bethany]

They're doing a different challenge in India now. Insetad of dumping ice water it's called the Rice Bucket Challenge. So either you give a bucket of rice to someone in need there and donate 10 dollars to your prefered choice of ALS research or you donate 100 dollars.

 

I really dont consider this bullying. I haven't come across any bullying in my group of friends. We've all been more than willing to help spread the word about ALS and its challenges. I found out many of my friends have family members who have died from ALS. I think it has also help start a discusion on embryonic stem cell research! I've been able to talk with people who would never normally talk to me about abortion and stuff. It's open doors for more than a talk on ALS but ethical research standards and how we can still support research facilities that support the sanctity of life.

[Guest LadyC]

i like the idea of the rice bucket challange.

 

but i still think demanding others take part in an either or scenario is bullyish. ESPECIALLY if the person is criticized, teased, or called names should they choose to decline.

[appy]

I am lost on the point of having to pay 90 bucks more if one declines the challenge.  Or did I read that wrong?