Is this God?

[Skyes]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Welcome.

God does not do magic. May I ask if you have accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior? It seems like He is trying to get your attention ...

Yes, I did. I was even baptized 6 years ago. My father used to be a pastor from our local church, and I used to play guitar and sing in the youth band. I have aways been in the church, and grew up with the commandments of God. But I never really got those questions answered. Actually, I never asked them to our local pastors either.

 

It is nice that you were brought up Christian, but I was digging a little deeper. DO you follow God in every way today? Is He first in your life?

 

 

Well, to be honest, I used to be much closer to Him in the past. Today he is not the first anymore. I had great disappointments when it comes to church. I just can't agree with many principles that are being taught in the churches anymore. I think things are not so simple or black and white, as to simply say that homossexuals will go to hell, for example. God is much deeper and bigger than that, and I couldn't understand or find Him in religion anymore, so I backed off. And I don't know where to look for Him anymore. I miss the old days were I could just feel His presence and talk to Him all day as if He was by my side. But honestly, I can't stand going to the church anymore. Everything is so shallow, so wrong. I can't stand seeing people singing and preaching about prosperity while there are beggars right outside of the front door, and they don't do ANYTHING. The love is not being preached anymore...

 

Try having a personal relationship with Him and you will understand His words. Religion is a dead end, where allowing Him to have a relationship with you will create in you a new person ... a reflection of Jesus. God is in His words, if you allow Him to speak to you and not try to pick what you want to accept of Him.

 

 

How can I do that? I try praying every day when I wake up, before lunch, before dinner and before sleep. I used to listen to gospel songs (I liked Hillsong a lot). I tried reading the bible many times, but nothing happenned. When I close my eyes and pray, it seems like I am talking to no one. How can I listen to Him, and better yet, know that He is the one talking to me, instead of my own mind making things up?

 

 

You are trying to do things systematically, being religious.  Try talking to Him like you do with a friend whenever you have a minute.  Take a long walk and talk with Him.  Before you make decisions, ask His advice.  Put Him first in your life and stop treating Him as if He was in some far off place and the only way to reach Him is through certain actions at certain times, like a conference call ...  He is your best friend, if you let Him.  Pour your heart out and listen to that little, quiet voice inside of you.

 

I will try that thanks

[MrKruback]

Welcome.

God does not do magic. May I ask if you have accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior? It seems like He is trying to get your attention ...

I always thought God could do magic, Is miracles not magic? Water to wine sounds pretty magical to me. Maybe I am just ignorant but I do not count God out of all things magical.

[OneLight]

The basic definitions are:

• Miracles - an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause
• Magic - he art of producing illusions as entertainment by the use of sleight of hand, deceptive devices, etc.; legerdemain; conjuring: the art of producing a desired effect or result through the use of incantation or various other techniques that presumably assure human control of supernatural agencies or the forces of nature.

Do you think God is all about illusions?

[Skyes]

The basic definitions are:

• Miracles - an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause
• Magic - he art of producing illusions as entertainment by the use of sleight of hand, deceptive devices, etc.; legerdemain; conjuring: the art of producing a desired effect or result through the use of incantation or various other techniques that presumably assure human control of supernatural agencies or the forces of nature.

Do you think God is all about illusions?

Well, the magic you are mention is those practiced on stages. That is also not the magic I belive. Those are tricks made to impress people and earn money. They are all about illusions. But there are magics that are not related to illusions, and those are what I call real magic.

Enchanting items, summoning entities, dominating the elements, and so on.

[other one]

You need to learn where magic comes from. Yes it is real and God forbid it's use. You are tieing yourself to things that you ultimately can't control. Sooner or later they will push you into destruction.

Question.... do you have any time periods that you can't account for?

[Skyes]

You need to learn where magic comes from. Yes it is real and God forbid it's use. You are tieing yourself to things that you ultimately can't control. Sooner or later they will push you into destruction.

Question.... do you have any time periods that you can't account for?

 

Well, I have a huge difficulty identifying what is God's word, and what is the man's word in the bible. I do remember that they wrote that God forbids enchantments, necromancy, spells and such. But I also remember that they think God ordered to stone the prostitutes to death. I don't really belive God ordered that. That can't be the same God. Specially not after Jesus came and told the prostitue to go and sin no more. 

There are many things on the bible, specially in the old testament, that I don't agree with. There are moments when God even orders the Israel army to take and slaughter an entire country,  including the animals and children. That don't sound like something that God would say. Specially not the God that Jesus represents (wich is the God I belive in).

 

To your second question, I don't think if I understood it correctly. (sorry, english is not my main language), but the answer would be no. Why do you ask?

[other one]

 

You need to learn where magic comes from. Yes it is real and God forbid it's use. You are tieing yourself to things that you ultimately can't control. Sooner or later they will push you into destruction.

Question.... do you have any time periods that you can't account for?

 

Well, I have a huge difficulty identifying what is God's word, and what is the man's word in the bible. I do remember that they wrote that God forbids enchantments, necromancy, spells and such. But I also remember that they think God ordered to stone the prostitutes to death. I don't really belive God ordered that. That can't be the same God. Specially not after Jesus came and told the prostitue to go and sin no more. 

There are many things on the bible, specially in the old testament, that I don't agree with. There are moments when God even orders the Israel army to take and slaughter an entire country,  including the animals and children. That don't sound like something that God would say. Specially not the God that Jesus represents (wich is the God I belive in).

 

To your second question, I don't think if I understood it correctly. (sorry, english is not my main language), but the answer would be no. Why do you ask?

 

That comes from your lack of understanding......   The prostitute that he told to go and sin no more was not brought to the priests according to the Law.  Both parties had to be accused of that to be valid.....   understanding what Jesus was writing in the sand caused all those there to accuse her to leave.....   with no one there to accuse her Jesus had to tell her to go.   It wasn't so much mercy on his part as it was that he was going strictly by the law...

 

 

While we should no longer stone prostitutes or Homosexuals, we should also not support their lifestyles for we know that God does not approve of them.....   but instead of killing them we should love them enough to get them to understand that God does not approve of thier lifestyle and has said that he will not let them enter into heaven.

 

Also understand that being a homosexual person does not condemn them, but the actual things that Homosexual people do to please themselves will condemn them........     and just because they say they were made that way doesn't really count for I was made to want to mate with every female that is available around me.......   but I have to not act on that desire for God condemns that just as he does homosexuality.

 

Understand that a Homo person is really no worse than an adulterer.  

 

but like I said earlier, if you can't accept the Bible as Gods word to us, I don't think I can tell you any way to foment a relationship with him.

 

Do you understand why God told them to destroy those peoples and even their animals????

 

 

But that's not my personal concern.    Getting involved in real Magic and the Kabbalah is a very serious thing.   both involve demonic forces you don't want involved in your life.  Magic is not some harmless natural thing that you can learn to use.  There are dark entities that make it work these days, just as it did before the Flood, and there are prices you pay that are not visible on the surface..

[Fez]

The basic definitions are:

• Miracles - an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause
• Magic - he art of producing illusions as entertainment by the use of sleight of hand, deceptive devices, etc.; legerdemain; conjuring: the art of producing a desired effect or result through the use of incantation or various other techniques that presumably assure human control of supernatural agencies or the forces of nature.

Do you think God is all about illusions?

Well, the magic you are mention is those practiced on stages. That is also not the magic I belive. Those are tricks made to impress people and earn money. They are all about illusions. But there are magics that are not related to illusions, and those are what I call real magic.

Enchanting items, summoning entities, dominating the elements, and so on.

To be quite blunt. Why would you expect God to answer your prayers and heal you when you are trying to cover all the bases. (With things satan is really enjoying seeing you do). What you are dabbling in are lies from the pit of hell. It's not God who is not listening to you, it is you who are so far from God that you cannot hear Him speak.

Trash that rubbish and fall on your knees before God. Accept that you cannot be healed except through Him. Humble yourself and pray. There is no other sugar coated answer to this.

[other one]

To your second question, I don't think if I understood it correctly. (sorry, english is not my main language), but the answer would be no. Why do you ask?

 

that would be a very long discussion that is irrelevant considering the answer is no.

 

 

In general you are telling me that the things you are dabbling in come from the occult....   I spent many years there and have had most of the exact symptoms of your illness during the last six months I had the two demons living with us.....     

 

I think all I could say from this point is that if you dabble with the devil, the devil will win........   every single time until you realize what is happening and call on Jesus for help, turn to him and away from all the magic......    and the Kabbalah is basically Egyptian-Babylonian Mysticism. 

 

From my personal experience of going down that road, I'd suggest with the utmost urgency that you drop the other stuff and do as Fez has said.

[Skyes]

 

 

You need to learn where magic comes from. Yes it is real and God forbid it's use. You are tieing yourself to things that you ultimately can't control. Sooner or later they will push you into destruction.

Question.... do you have any time periods that you can't account for?

 

Well, I have a huge difficulty identifying what is God's word, and what is the man's word in the bible. I do remember that they wrote that God forbids enchantments, necromancy, spells and such. But I also remember that they think God ordered to stone the prostitutes to death. I don't really belive God ordered that. That can't be the same God. Specially not after Jesus came and told the prostitue to go and sin no more. 

There are many things on the bible, specially in the old testament, that I don't agree with. There are moments when God even orders the Israel army to take and slaughter an entire country,  including the animals and children. That don't sound like something that God would say. Specially not the God that Jesus represents (wich is the God I belive in).

 

To your second question, I don't think if I understood it correctly. (sorry, english is not my main language), but the answer would be no. Why do you ask?

 

That comes from your lack of understanding......   The prostitute that he told to go and sin no more was not brought to the priests according to the Law.  Both parties had to be accused of that to be valid.....   understanding what Jesus was writing in the sand caused all those there to accuse her to leave.....   with no one there to accuse her Jesus had to tell her to go.   It wasn't so much mercy on his part as it was that he was going strictly by the law...

 

 

While we should no longer stone prostitutes or Homosexuals, we should also not support their lifestyles for we know that God does not approve of them.....   but instead of killing them we should love them enough to get them to understand that God does not approve of thier lifestyle and has said that he will not let them enter into heaven.

 

Also understand that being a homosexual person does not condemn them, but the actual things that Homosexual people do to please themselves will condemn them........     and just because they say they were made that way doesn't really count for I was made to want to mate with every female that is available around me.......   but I have to not act on that desire for God condemns that just as he does homosexuality.

 

Understand that a Homo person is really no worse than an adulterer.  

 

but like I said earlier, if you can't accept the Bible as Gods word to us, I don't think I can tell you any way to foment a relationship with him.

 

Do you understand why God told them to destroy those peoples and even their animals????

 

 

But that's not my personal concern.    Getting involved in real Magic and the Kabbalah is a very serious thing.   both involve demonic forces you don't want involved in your life.  Magic is not some harmless natural thing that you can learn to use.  There are dark entities that make it work these days, just as it did before the Flood, and there are prices you pay that are not visible on the surface..

 

Sorry, I can't agree with that.I fail to see homossexuals, prostitutes and adulterers going to hell and being punnished for all eternity. And it is that kind of thing that is taking my faith and trust away from the bible. 

 

No, I don't understand why he told them to destroy them. I don't even remember the concept. 

 

 

 

The basic definitions are:

• Miracles - an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause
• Magic - he art of producing illusions as entertainment by the use of sleight of hand, deceptive devices, etc.; legerdemain; conjuring: the art of producing a desired effect or result through the use of incantation or various other techniques that presumably assure human control of supernatural agencies or the forces of nature.

Do you think God is all about illusions?

Well, the magic you are mention is those practiced on stages. That is also not the magic I belive. Those are tricks made to impress people and earn money. They are all about illusions. But there are magics that are not related to illusions, and those are what I call real magic.

Enchanting items, summoning entities, dominating the elements, and so on.

To be quite blunt. Why would you expect God to answer your prayers and heal you when you are trying to cover all the bases. (With things satan is really enjoying seeing you do). What you are dabbling in are lies from the pit of hell. It's not God who is not listening to you, it is you who are so far from God that you cannot hear Him speak.

Trash that rubbish and fall on your knees before God. Accept that you cannot be healed except through Him. Humble yourself and pray. There is no other sugar coated answer to this.

 

 Because He is mercyful? Or does He only answer to those that are following His path, and are already "saved"?