Speculation on the soul; kinda

[JTC]

Have you ever met someone for the first time and get the feeling you have known the person before? I have. It's happened several times in my life. Usually that person is a woman, but a few times it was another guy. Sometimes I feel like I was in love with the woman, and I am never 100% successful in forgetting her. But there is at least 1 woman who I don't feel love for, just a feeling of familiarity. When this happens, I often think I knew the person from where ever I was before I came here. I don't know if everyone experiences this, It's happened to me at least 7 times.

[mevosper]

JTC - I've experie

 

Have you ever met someone for the first time and get the feeling you have known the person before? I have. It's happened several times in my life. Usually that person is a woman, but a few times it was another guy. Sometimes I feel like I was in love with the woman, and I am never 100% successful in forgetting her. But there is at least 1 woman who I don't feel love for, just a feeling of familiarity. When this happens, I often think I knew the person from where ever I was before I came here. I don't know if everyone experiences this, It's happened to me at least 7 times.

I've experienced that as well. I don't have any scriptural references for this, but I can tell you where my thought process has taken me. 

 

I believe there are some people we are more compatible with than others. I recall one time talking and socializing with a group of close friends one night. We happen to get on a conversation about something. During the conversation, there was a weird connection I had with another person. It was with someone of the opposite sex. I say it was a "weird" connection because I don't know how else to explain it. We talked about it months later, as friends, and she felt that same weird connection. Was it a spiritual connection? A soul-mate connection? I have no idea how to describe it. Maybe it was just the wine, but I found it "enlightening" that we both felt it. As a note, I would classify myself as not a very social person, so a connection like this is extremely rare for me.  

 

I do believe that God has created us to connect to people. Not because there is a "bucket of souls" that bump together until God chooses to "launch" us into a human body. I just believe God created us to be social people. 

 

I also believe it is easy for some men to look on some woman and become instantly "infactuated" with them. Paul tells us that we need to control our members (however you want to define your personal members: mind, hands, eyes, etc). When I was much younger (9,10,11,12 years old), we use to visit my grandparents that lived 500 miles away. During the car ride, I would see a cute girl in another car and instantly want my dad to follow that vehicle where ever it went. At 10 years old, I didn't know anything about controlling my members. 

 

Piece of advice - do not become infactuated with every person you see. As our faith grows in God (like a plant, shrub or tree), we become more familiar with the voice of God. As that happens, we begin to know other people by their fruits (was we are told in the Bible). You are not in love with someone just because you look at them and get all "tingly" inside. This is what the movies would have you believe. You get "tingly" because God made us that way. It is up to us to determine how we allow that "tingly" to affect us. 

 

I'm sure I'll catch some flack for saying "tingly isn't love at first sight" but tingly isn't love at first site. It's a deep physical response to what we take in with our eyes. My 14 year old daughter is dealing with this very thing right now, just on a feminine level. 

 

Hope this is helpful

[Guest]

I have had this thought come to mind a few times, think on it then forget it. Anyway it crossed my mind so I decided to put out here. I have no proof of any kind except maybe

one verse and maybe not.

 

suppose some where out there is a place ( not heaven ) where a different being God has placed; maybe going through a trial not like what we as humans go through on earth. What if the ones who fail are put into a human body for another trial. Naturally by God.

 

this is just a thought I am not saying it is true.

 

 

The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life. Job 33:4

 

What

 

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: Hebrews 9:27

 

If?

 

Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

 

For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil. Ecclesiastes 12:13-14

[coheir]

 

I have had this thought come to mind a few times, think on it then forget it. Anyway it crossed my mind so I decided to put out here. I have no proof of any kind except maybe

one verse and maybe not.

 

suppose some where out there is a place ( not heaven ) where a different being God has placed; maybe going through a trial not like what we as humans go through on earth. What if the ones who fail are put into a human body for another trial. Naturally by God.

 

this is just a thought I am not saying it is true.

 

 

What

 

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: Hebrews 9:27

 

If?

 

Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

 

For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil. Ecclesiastes 12:13-14

 

Thank you Joe, I think some overlooked that it is just a crazy human thought.

I had a lot of what if's in there.

[Salty]

I have had this thought come to mind a few times, think on it then forget it. Anyway it crossed my mind so I decided to put out here. I have no proof of any kind except maybe

one verse and maybe not.

 

suppose some where out there is a place ( not heaven ) where a different being God has placed; maybe going through a trial not like what we as humans go through on earth. What if the ones who fail are put into a human body for another trial. Naturally by God.

 

 this is just a thought I am not saying it is true.

 

That would be the eastern religious idea of reincarnation. God's Word does not support that idea, at all.

 

Per the NT Scriptures, we each have 3 parts to our being, a flesh body, spirit, and a soul. Per Scripture, our spirit with soul can... be separated from our flesh body (see Eccl.12:5-7; 1 Corinthians 15). That which is born of flesh is flesh, and that which is born of Spirit is spirit. Our spirit came from God, and not anywhere else; but our flesh body came from earthly material matter, which is where it will return to at death, never needing it again.

[kwikphilly]

Blessings coheir....

    I do believe Hebrews 9:27.....Brother Joe quoted for us.....says it all,I really do..

  But I thought perhaps you might like my little analogy in regards to God Knowing us before we were formed(even before the foundations of the earth)

 

Ephesians 1:4-5

even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will,

 

Jeremiah 1:5

“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.”

      I am an artist,before I even pick out a canvas, I see that canvas & my painting completed.......in my minds eye I can already see what I am going to create,,,,,& then I bring it to life(so to speak) on a canvas that I pick out ,the place  I will put my creation

                                                                                                                                              With love-in Christ,Kwik

[coheir]

Blessings coheir....

    I do believe Hebrews 9:27.....Brother Joe quoted for us.....says it all,I really do..

  But I thought perhaps you might like my little analogy in regards to God Knowing us before we were formed(even before the foundations of the earth)

 

Ephesians 1:4-5

even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will,

 

Jeremiah 1:5

“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.”

      I am an artist,before I even pick out a canvas, I see that canvas & my painting completed.......in my minds eye I can already see what I am going to create,,,,,& then I bring it to life(so to speak) on a canvas that I pick out ,the place  I will put my creation

                                                                                                                                              With love-in Christ,Kwik

 

 I think I have been applying time to the Jere verse and that is not needed. I  had said "souls may exist for a time somewhere"  trying to tie in with the " I knew you before I formed  you " part of the verse.

[coheir]

 

I have had this thought come to mind a few times, think on it then forget it. Anyway it crossed my mind so I decided to put out here. I have no proof of any kind except maybe

one verse and maybe not.

 

suppose some where out there is a place ( not heaven ) where a different being God has placed; maybe going through a trial not like what we as humans go through on earth. What if the ones who fail are put into a human body for another trial. Naturally by God.

 

 this is just a thought I am not saying it is true.

 

That would be the eastern religious idea of reincarnation. God's Word does not support that idea, at all.

 

Per the NT Scriptures, we each have 3 parts to our being, a flesh body, spirit, and a soul. Per Scripture, our spirit with soul can... be separated from our flesh body (see Eccl.12:5-7; 1 Corinthians 15). That which is born of flesh is flesh, and that which is born of Spirit is spirit. Our spirit came from God, and not anywhere else; but our flesh body came from earthly material matter, which is where it will return to at death, never needing it again.

 

In my thought there was no denying the soul came from God It was; I thought the soul may exist for a time before God put it a body.

[kwikphilly]

Blessings coheir,,,

    I do know what you were saying but I guess I just did not explain myself very well,,,,,,although it probably not the answer you may relate to.I can only share with you how I perceive things ,still I do understand your question and what you are wondering.....

   Before I draw a beautiful person or a creation I do know them because they are already existing in my mind,alive,moving about ......we are reconciled back to our Father,it is where we do come from....we were a part of Him & became separated from Him,,,,,perhaps our souls did already exist,in Him,as we are also eternal beings,,,,created from Him (speculation,of course)

                                                                                                                                           With love,in Christ,Kwik

[JTC]

In John's Gospel Ch 9 starts with this, "As He went along, He saw a man blind from birth. ² His disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?”  The problem with that question is how could have the man sinned since he was born blind. Jesus side steps that issue in His answer. For 10 years I refused to consider what the disciples were implying. But then 5 years ago I met a woman online who was an Orthodox Jew. I asked her what Jews believe happen to us after death, and I was shocked when she said she was taught we come back to Earth in a new body. She called it transmigration of the soul, not reincarnation. But it's the same basic idea. I did some research and found out almost all religions, except Christianity (and maybe Islam) all believe in some form of rebirth on Earth. I never knew that. I then started thinking that maybe before Jesus came here that was true.

 

Since you can't get to Heaven following the Mosaic law, and since very few people in the OT had the gift of the Holy Spirit, what happened to the souls of all the people who lived and died before Jesus. I don't know, so this is just an opinion. Perhaps God recycled their souls. It's just a thought, I'm not trying to say it's a fact.